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The Indians will pick up Brantley's option. They could deal him, but they aren't declining that option.
 
Brantley's option is getting picked up. Bruce almost certainly gets bigger money elsewhere.

Santana is not the best first baseman on the market on any day, whether its the beginning or end of the day.
 
AZ_ said:
Brantley's option is getting picked up. Bruce almost certainly gets bigger money elsewhere.

Santana is not the best first baseman on the market on any day, whether its the beginning or end of the day.
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Look at his overall numbers he is actually pretty good compared to who else is out there. Hosmer hits for better average but Santana by far is the better defender. If you do not believe me look at the sabermetrics and they will support it. Outside of Hosmer and Santana at the moment there isn't a good 1B. Look at right now who is available, you guys underestimate how good Santana actually has been at 1st Base.
 
I'm not underestimating anything.

I'm saying Eric Hosmer will be the best 1B on the market.

If Santana gets a bigger contract than Hosmer, I'll let you choose my avatar for 2018. If Hosmer gets the bigger deal, I choose yours.

Deal?
 
AZ_ said:
I'm not underestimating anything.

I'm saying Eric Hosmer will be the best 1B on the market.

If Santana gets a bigger contract than Hosmer, I'll let you choose my avatar for 2018. If Hosmer gets the bigger deal, I choose yours.

Deal?
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I would take the deal if Hosmer wasn't 4 years younger than Santana and the teams always favor sub 30 over the 30 and over when it comes to contracts.

Going by normal stats Santana got two-three years area before his production declines while Hosmer will theoretically have close to 6-7 years.

I would take a bet on Santana over the next two-three seasons having better stats overall than Hosmer.

Hosmer is going to get a 6 year+ deal at 15+ mil a season while Santana will likely get a 3-4 year deal at 15 mil area. There isn't anyway a 31 year old will get a better deal.
 
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sportscoach said:
I would take the deal if Hosmer wasn't 4 years younger than Santana and the teams always favor sub 30 over the 30 and over when it comes to contracts.

Going by normal stats Santana got two-three years area before his production declines while Hosmer will theoretically have close to 6-7 years.

I would take a bet on Santana over the next two-three seasons having better stats overall than Hosmer.

Hosmer is going to get a 6 year+ deal at 15+ mil a season while Santana will likely get a 3-4 year deal at 15 mil area. There isn't anyway a 31 year old will get a better deal.
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So, Hosmer is the best first baseman on the market.

Good talk.
 
When was the last time a player signed elsewhere that the Indians wanted to bring back but were spurned?

I can't really think of one in very recent memory. Genuinely curious. I may be forgetting an obvious one.
 
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Real Deal said:
He's been a waste of money for 2 years now with year #3 looming in that direction because it's reality.

Santana, Bruce, Brantley would be my ideal order in keeping guys around. Indians have some issues regarding roster movement after this season and Brantley should be the last decision made.

In the end it's up to the Dolan's to continue donating to Brantley's bank.
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I agree with you on preferring to keep Bruce over Brantley, but it's inaccurate to say Brantley has been a waste of money the past two seasons considering he was an All Star this year.
 
Jose currently ranks 76th all time for doubles in a season, can move up significantly with the remaining games

Active players with 50+ doubles in a season
-Matt Carpenter
-Dustin Pedroia
-Jonathan Lucroy
-Miguel Cabrera x2
-Alex Gordon
-Manny Machado
-Albert Pujols x3
-Matt Holiday

Only Miggy, Machado, and Pujols did it at 24 y/o or younger
 
Urban said:
Jose currently ranks 76th all time for doubles in a season, can move up significantly with the remaining games

Active players with 50+ doubles in a season
-Matt Carpenter
-Dustin Pedroia
-Jonathan Lucroy
-Miguel Cabrera x2
-Alex Gordon
-Manny Machado
-Albert Pujols x3
-Matt Holiday

Only Miggy, Machado, and Pujols did it at 24 y/o or younger
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As a baseball fan, the drastic decline in Alex Gordon is sad. He's always been one of my favorite players to watch and sometimes you forget how good he was.
 
Driving 3 and 1/2 hours to Seattle on Saturday to take my son to his first MLB game. Exciting times!! We will be on the Indians side (of course) down left field line, 5 rows back. Maybe a foul ball will come our way.
 
CavsFanJapan said:
Driving 3 and 1/2 hours to Seattle on Saturday to take my son to his first MLB game. Exciting times!! We will be on the Indians side (of course) down left field line, 5 rows back. Maybe a foul ball will come our way.
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Can definitely hear a good amount of Tribe fans at the game, especially on the Bruce RBI double.
 
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