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2017 Draft Prospects Thread

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I don't think Garrett touches anything like that, but supposedly Bias didn't either until he celebrated the draft. This just in: Myles Garrett played in the Dust Bowl. More details to come, don't go to sleep tonight...
Saw a documentary that debunked the story Bias was a Saint. It said he a was a habitual user, who went over the top that fateful night. Regardless if true or not, it is unspeakably sad that a young man died like that.
 
Not gonna shoot the messenger, but Dobbs in the first would lead to me shooting myself.
One thing that has pissed me off with the new front office is they have definitely been over drafting guys. Dobbs in the first is as much of an overdraft as Kessler in the third. And who the fuck was taking Devalve in the fourth? Or Louis?

These are guys that likely would've been around way later that for some reason we decided to fall in love with a guy and just lose any perception of relative value. Exactly what I thought wouldn't happen with analytics

If we took Dobbs in the first I think that would be the end of my support for the front office's drafting. I mean that's just over the top. Kessler was way over the top but at least it was "just" a third
 
Saw a documentary that debunked the story Bias was a Saint. It said he a was a habitual user, who went over the top that fateful night. Regardless if true or not, it is unspeakably sad that a young man died like that.

I would have liked to see the Alternate Reality Celtics of the early 90s, led by Len Bias, Reggie Lewis, Brian Shaw, and Dee Brown. They probably convince The Chief to stay in Boston, develop a real center.
 
I would have liked to see the Alternate Reality Celtics of the early 90s, led by Len Bias, Reggie Lewis, Brian Shaw, and Dee Brown. They probably convince The Chief to stay in Boston, develop a real center.
We are just pretending Dino Radja never existed?
 
One thing that has pissed me off with the new front office is they have definitely been over drafting guys. Dobbs in the first is as much of an overdraft as Kessler in the third. And who the fuck was taking Devalve in the fourth? Or Louis?

These are guys that likely would've been around way later that for some reason we decided to fall in love with a guy and just lose any perception of relative value. Exactly what I thought wouldn't happen with analytics

If we took Dobbs in the first I think that would be the end of my support for the front office's drafting. I mean that's just over the top. Kessler was way over the top but at least it was "just" a third

All teams end up overdrafting a guy by our boards/using analysts board. Each team has their boards and who they should pick in which rounds. Once you get to day three teams may stretch for a player cause they have him high on their boards and they don't want to chance loosing them in the draft. Kessler though has been solid though, he put up competent numbers when he wasnt hurt.

Steelers and Patriots draft their guys regardless if it's a stretch or not, so I am not worried if we stretch a bit. Now Dobbs in round one, I think it's way too high, but we don't know who else may have him that high.
 
We are just pretending Dino Radja never existed?

The Alternate Reality Celtics don't play his knees into the ground, splitting time with Bias and The Chief. Dino drops 17 and 8, gold chains, lamb skewers, and hair grease for a decade in New England.
 
The Alternate Reality Celtics don't play his knees into the found, splitting time with Bias and The Chief. Dino drops 17 and 8, gold chains, lamb skewers, and hair grease for a decade in New England.
Ah, ok. I personally put Dino as the C with the guys you listed which is why I was wondering.
 
I would have liked to see the Alternate Reality Celtics of the early 90s, led by Len Bias, Reggie Lewis, Brian Shaw, and Dee Brown. They probably convince The Chief to stay in Boston, develop a real center.

They get bounced in six games in the ECF instead of the Knicks.

Jordan still goes gambling.
 
Saw a documentary that debunked the story Bias was a Saint. It said he a was a habitual user, who went over the top that fateful night. Regardless if true or not, it is unspeakably sad that a young man died like that.
The tragedy spun the story. My uncle was at Maryland in the 80s and partied with the guys (I've seen Polaroids lol). Bias was always looking to score shit.
 
Have a close friend who is also close to Joe Haden. He says Garrett at #1 per Joe. Although I'm not sure how much Joe knows or why they would tell him anything???

Just passing along info… I know it sounds like a "my friends mom's brothers cousin knows a guy" statement. Which maybe it is
 
In the possible event that we do trade up from 12, I want to crunch some numbers real fast so we can determine if we have to overpay.

In 2016, we dealt with Tennessee so they could come up and get Jack Conklin. I'm going to use the Johnson value charts, but it won't matter since it's only for the sake of comparison.

We traded 8 (1400 points) and a 6th, 176 (21 points) to move down to 15 (1050 points) while adding 76 in 2016 (210 points) and a future 2017 second (which we now know is 380 points, but future draft picks carry less value in the NFL).

Thus, by playing the patience game with the future 2nd, we won that trade by a net 1640 to 1421.

Now, this year, the Titans are ironically another of the more likely trade-up destinations. If we base this trade off of last year, given the similarity, we can expect something close.

Moving from 5 (1700 points) to 12 (1200 points) is a slightly larger gap (150 points). However, by giving #52 back, we make up most of the difference with 380 points. Thus, including a future 3rd may be all we need to make it reflect last year's trade.

Yes, the trade isn't won by the same margin. However, many teams don't value the long game and would rather have a 2nd this year versus the next. At most, I would swap out 33 and 52 to get a deal done, but that future third would have to be removed from the trade.

We shall see. But giving up multiple seconds/firsts to move up as portrayed throughout the media is just foolish and would be a poor move.
 
Throughout the night, reporters are saying Trubisky is looking like the pick at #1. If that's the case, I can't see Gregg Williams being too happy passing on Garrett. This is going to be a long day.
 
By far the worst part of the draft is the Cleveland media asking the new draftees questions.

I'm pretty sure Kessler got all the questions last year just because he was a QB.

And all the questions are asked with such an inferiority complex or just plain dumb.....

"Are you aware that the Browns haven't won in 200 years? How do you change that?"

"How does it feel to be drafted by a team with so much turmoil?"

"Have you been to Cleveland? Do you know Jim Brown?"

"Do you know LeBron? Do you know what basketball is?"

"Do you think you can succeed in this offense without a fullback? Asking for a friend"
 
Have a close friend who is also close to Joe Haden. He says Garrett at #1 per Joe. Although I'm not sure how much Joe knows or why they would tell him anything???

Just passing along info… I know it sounds like a "my friends mom's brothers cousin knows a guy" statement. Which maybe it is

It's better than, "My neighbor has been a Browns fan for 50 years and he says the Browns are going to fuck this up because, Browns." Those takes never get old.
 

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