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2017 Draft Prospects Thread

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Definitely meant non 1sts in 18 but I understand the desire to stick to the course of massive amounts of picks in the first 3-4 rounds.

Do agree that there is great value in 10-20 this year and that it's a place where you can often get the #1 prospect at certain postions(ILB, S, G, TE, and even RB and RT some years)
 
Top 3 for the Top 10

Here is a look at five guys who should be on the Browns radar with their second first round pick, likely to be anywhere from 6-15 in the first round.

1. Reuben Foster - MLB - Alabama

He might be the most naturally gifted MLB to come through Bama in the last decade, in a group that includes McClain, Mosely, Hightower and Ragland.

He understands pursuit angles incredibly well and is adept at shedding blockers to fill gaps in the run game. First step is excellent, though I've seen him get fooled in the read-option game a bit at times.

So athletic for his size, glides to the ball with authority and lays the wood.

Some off-the-field concerns surrounding him, but nothing debilitating from any reports out there.

Why He Fits:

Christian Kirksey and Jaime Collins are already in the fold, and Danny Shelton has emerged to make life easier for the linebacker unit on this team. With those three Pro Bowl caliber players, Foster is a great fit to establish a consistent rush defense. Additionally, Ray Horton is the perfect coach to get the most out of his talent.

Film Study:

2016 - vs. Tennessee

2016 - vs. Texas A&M



2. Jamal Adams - S - LSU

Will be a team leader the minute he steps onto an NFL football field. Son of a former NFL guy and makes a habit of film study with former NFL coaches who are close to the LSU program. Dedicated guy and a superstar on the field.

Honey Badger 2.0, but is bigger and a natural safety with range who can play the run and the pass at a high level.

He's more Eric Berry than anyone I've seen in the last few years.

Why He Fits:

The Browns secondary is devoid of playmakers at the safety position, and devoid of leadership as a unit. Adams fills both needs and is a future Pro Bowler at his position. An ideal fit in the 8-12 range of the first round.

Film Study:

2016 vs. Auburn

2016 vs. Miss. St.


3 - Malik McDowell - DL - Michigan State

Long arms and the ability to keep offensive lineman off his body in the run game has been a major advantage for him since he was a freshman. He gets horizontal in the run game and stretches plays out before using his lower body to get to the ball carrier.

Too often turns his hips off center and can fall victim to the cutback, and too often freelances outside the scheme to take himself out of the play.

At 6'5+, 280+, he presents a versatile option who lines up in just about any gap across the line and has been effective at causing havoc.

Good swim and good hands, any NFL defensive line coach worth their weight can turn him into an above average performer with time and his effort.

Why He Fits:

Danny Shelton has emerged as a Pro Bowl caliber player. But next to him remains nothing but question marks and while there are some promising rookies like Ogbah and Nassib, neither have the ceiling against the run McDowell does. These three players would give Horton the freedom to be creative and move them around, playing to their strengths and helping a linebacker unit.

Film Study:

2016 vs. Indiana

2016 vs. ND
Is there any doubt Boobie knows this draft at a much deeper level than Sashi Brown? Yikes, scary but probably true.
 
Is there any doubt Boobie knows this draft at a much deeper level than Sashi Brown? Yikes, scary but probably true.

I feel pretty good about the football players they selected in this draft(though wish they would've just taken BPA instead of Kessler)

Eager to see how they attack this draft and how the 2016 draftees develop in year 2
 
Is there any doubt Boobie knows this draft at a much deeper level than Sashi Brown? Yikes, scary but probably true.

Why do people think Sashi is making all the calls? Even in Mary Kay's article that called for a top personnel addition she points out that Sashi leans heavily on Hue's input. Cincy does a good job finding talent by leaning on the abilities of their coaches to find guys they like, so why can't that work for us?
 
Why do people think Sashi is making all the calls? Even in Mary Kay's article that called for a top personnel addition she points out that Sashi leans heavily on Hue's input. Cincy does a good job finding talent by leaning on the abilities of their coaches to find guys they like, so why can't that work for us?
Because Cincinnati has an owner that won't blow it up every other year (I know their owner is horrendous in his own way, but they at least have a continuity benefit)
 
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Because Cincinnati has an owner that won't blow it up every other year (I know their owner is horrendous in his own way, but they at least have a continuity benefit)
Marvin Lewis should have been gone a long, long time ago.
 
Top 3 for the Top 10

Here is a look at five guys who should be on the Browns radar with their second first round pick, likely to be anywhere from 6-15 in the first round.

1. Reuben Foster - MLB - Alabama

He might be the most naturally gifted MLB to come through Bama in the last decade, in a group that includes McClain, Mosely, Hightower and Ragland.

He understands pursuit angles incredibly well and is adept at shedding blockers to fill gaps in the run game. First step is excellent, though I've seen him get fooled in the read-option game a bit at times.

So athletic for his size, glides to the ball with authority and lays the wood.

Some off-the-field concerns surrounding him, but nothing debilitating from any reports out there.

Why He Fits:

Christian Kirksey and Jaime Collins are already in the fold, and Danny Shelton has emerged to make life easier for the linebacker unit on this team. With those three Pro Bowl caliber players, Foster is a great fit to establish a consistent rush defense. Additionally, Ray Horton is the perfect coach to get the most out of his talent.

Film Study:

2016 - vs. Tennessee

2016 - vs. Texas A&M



2. Jamal Adams - S - LSU

Will be a team leader the minute he steps onto an NFL football field. Son of a former NFL guy and makes a habit of film study with former NFL coaches who are close to the LSU program. Dedicated guy and a superstar on the field.

Honey Badger 2.0, but is bigger and a natural safety with range who can play the run and the pass at a high level.

He's more Eric Berry than anyone I've seen in the last few years.

Why He Fits:

The Browns secondary is devoid of playmakers at the safety position, and devoid of leadership as a unit. Adams fills both needs and is a future Pro Bowler at his position. An ideal fit in the 8-12 range of the first round.

Film Study:

2016 vs. Auburn

2016 vs. Miss. St.


3 - Malik McDowell - DL - Michigan State

Long arms and the ability to keep offensive lineman off his body in the run game has been a major advantage for him since he was a freshman. He gets horizontal in the run game and stretches plays out before using his lower body to get to the ball carrier.

Too often turns his hips off center and can fall victim to the cutback, and too often freelances outside the scheme to take himself out of the play.

At 6'5+, 280+, he presents a versatile option who lines up in just about any gap across the line and has been effective at causing havoc.

Good swim and good hands, any NFL defensive line coach worth their weight can turn him into an above average performer with time and his effort.

Why He Fits:

Danny Shelton has emerged as a Pro Bowl caliber player. But next to him remains nothing but question marks and while there are some promising rookies like Ogbah and Nassib, neither have the ceiling against the run McDowell does. These three players would give Horton the freedom to be creative and move them around, playing to their strengths and helping a linebacker unit.

Film Study:

2016 vs. Indiana

2016 vs. ND

Just the fact that weeks ago, we were all bummed as dick because the picked looked like it could be in the late 20's, and now those 3 names are a real possibility (as it currently stands..)


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So pretty....look at the seal block by the TE and the kick-out block by the RT too. I am kinda happy we don't see Iowa every year...it's not surprising they ate up Michigan on the ground. Great OL year-in, year out.
 
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Let's not forget about this guy, either:

 
Is there any doubt Boobie knows this draft at a much deeper level than Sashi Brown? Yikes, scary but probably true.

It seems like our talent evaluation staff did a pretty good job this past draft, particularly in the first several rounds. Based on last year's draft, I'm at least semi-confident in their ability to draft quality players.
 
It seems like our talent evaluation staff did a pretty good job this past draft, particularly in the first several rounds. Based on last year's draft, I'm at least semi-confident in their ability to draft quality players.

Based on what? Out of curiosity? The team is winless. :chuckle: Who is making a significant impact from the rookie class? I don't ask that to be facetious, I am genuinely interested if the metrics are saying these players are actually really good, or what. And no, I'm not passing final judgment on anyone in their first year.
 
Based on what? Out of curiosity? The team is winless. :chuckle: Who is making a significant impact from the rookie class? I don't ask that to be facetious, I am genuinely interested if the metrics are saying these players are actually really good, or what. And no, I'm not passing final judgment on anyone in their first year.

Coleman has been impressive. Nassib was looking really good before his injury. Ogbah looks like a legit starter. Kessler has been better than expected.

You can't expect a few good rookies to suddenly turn a team around. It's going to take several good drafts to do that for the Browns. But the fact that we're nearing the end of the season and several guys they drafted last year look like they are either starters or at least solid players is an encouraging sign.
 
I'd like to see Coleman with someone who can really get him the ball. I wouldn't say he's been impressive outside of his outburst earlier this year before he got hurt.

The other guys, I'll give you. They look like starters, but on a winless team? Again, not saying any judgment is final. I'll put much more stock into their performances in year 2 and 3. I'd be lying though if I said my concerns about the Browns' drafting had been dispelled at this point.
 
Coleman is going to shine when RG3 us back. RG3's deep ball is still one of the best in the NFL, Coleman is going to look amazing.
 

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