2018 Buckeyes Football

[I'mWithDan]

View: https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1026806127516942337


I suggest everyone read this piece from Lamb (who has been a great follow throughout this process). In this, he covers the policy that @I'mWithDan posted above.

"Though the source is not familiar with Ohio State's specific university policy, he did say there's not much they could do given the lack of jurisdiction."

"They're not the police," he added. "There's nothing they could or would likely do in that situation."

"There really is no point of contacting someone in her situation, ever."

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In an article about lamenting accuracy, why is this in there? Does it make any sense that he would be quoting someone who is not familiar with OSU policies? I get his larger point but he says a few things that are head scratching....the above being one of them.

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His evidence, screenshots of text messages, some containing no timestamps, would be inadmissible in practically every court in America. Courts generally would allow texts only if they're authenticated at the source...recovered from the carrier directly or physically retrieved from the phone with send/receive metadata intact. With an iMessage, as is Courtney's texts, neither is practical.

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Again, I can't wrap my head around him actually believing this. There is a lot at risk for everyone involved here. If these texts were fake, Smith's lawyer would be screaming on the top of a mountain.....and it would eviscerate a reporters career and paint the victim as a complete and utter liar. Zach also would not have responded the way he did.

I generally get the point of what he is trying to say but he's not doing himself any favors by inserting some of the things he did. You could cut out half of that article (the above passages included) and it would be a lot more effective.

 

[Ohio]

View: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1026878473565024256


Look at this piece of shit.

He knows he's about to lose the war against Urban, so now he's going after Shelley.

Not only that, but he has the audacity to cry about Ohio State not immediately answering his requests, when he won't publish the police report that allegedly has the arrest box checked off despite plenty of requests for him to do so.

ALL of this because he's butthurt Urban called him out on his fake story.

Fuck this guy.

 

[Ohio]

His evidence, screenshots of text messages, some containing no timestamps, would be inadmissible in practically every court in America. Courts generally would allow texts only if they're authenticated at the source...recovered from the carrier directly or physically retrieved from the phone with send/receive metadata intact. With an iMessage, as is Courtney's texts, neither is practical.

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Again, I can't wrap my head around him actually believing this. There is a lot at risk for everyone involved here. If these texts were fake, Smith's lawyer would be screaming on the top of a mountain.....and it would eviscerate a reporters career and paint the victim as a complete and utter liar. Zach also would not have responded the way he did.

I generally get the point of what he is trying to say but he's not doing himself any favors by inserting some of the things he did. You could cut out half of that article (the above passages included) and it would be a lot more effective.

What he said isn't wrong, though.

 

[I'mWithDan]

What he said isn't wrong, though.

He's engaging in the same type of sensationalism though. He's stating something that he knows will elicit a specific response....i.e. "that evidence can't even be used man! see!" without providing details that the texts are forged.

His article is the type of reporting you guys seemingly dislike when you're on the other side of it, no?

Again, I get his larger point, I just think his argument was muted by some of the things like the above that are literally just sensationalism or really sloppy sourcing....which he wants to get on his high horse and rail against. It's more exciting that he can say "that screenshot can't be used in court" than to mention that no one has refuted the authenticity of the texts.

 

[EdMonix11]

They’re really laying the sensationalism on thick today.

What a shit show.

Thank god OSU did not contact her. Lord knows how that would’ve been spun.

 

[Ohio]

He's engaging in the same type of sensationalism though. He's stating something that he knows will elicit a specific response....i.e. "that evidence can't even be used man! see!" without providing details that the texts are forged.

His article is the type of reporting you guys seemingly dislike when you're on the other side of it, no?

Again, I get his larger point, I just think his argument was muted by some of the things like the above that are literally just sensationalism or really sloppy sourcing....which he wants to get on his high horse and rail against. It's more exciting that he can say "that screenshot can't be used in court" than to mention that no one has refuted the authenticity of the texts.

I fail to see where he is sensationalizing. He simply commented that those texts would be squashed in court immediately (which was something I also said days ago) without authentication. This is, essentially, a fact. What is sensationalist about that comment? You might not like it but that doesn't make it sensationalist.

Additionally, it's not his job to authenticate texts that McMurphy was solely given and published and is shouting from the rooftops about. That would be McMurphy's job.

Now, again, we can make assumptions about the texts based on how people are or aren't reacting to them, but instead of making leaps, Lamb is speaking on what we know.

 

[Ohio]

They’re really laying the sensationalism on thick today.

What a shit show.

Thank god OSU did not contact her. Lord knows how that would’ve been spun.

Who is "they" and what are "they" saying? Just curious...

And yeah, contacting her would have honestly been worse. I can just hear it now:

"Ohio State talked Courtney down! Told her to not press charges!" etc etc. Just more ammo for the cover up theory.

I can't even imagine how that conversation would even go. The chances of it ever going well are slim to none.

Think people are failing to realize just how much the police cover in this situation. They literally, by law, are required to make an arrest if they see any evidence of domestic violence. So, by not making an arrest, and not pressing charges, they're essentially saying, in their eyes, that nothing happened.

But...according to the mob...after learning that, Ohio State is somehow expected to go ABOVE the police, find this evidence the police say does not exist, and fire Smith. Or just fire him on allegations alone. Allegations that the police say nothing was there. It's bordering on lunacy at this point.

 

[EdMonix11]

Who is "they" and what are "they" saying? Just curious...

And yeah, contacting her would have honestly been worse. I can just hear it now:

"Ohio State talked Courtney down! Told her to not press charges!" etc etc. Just more ammo for the cover up theory.

I can't even imagine how that conversation would even go. The chances of it ever going well are slim to none.

Think people are failing to realize just how much the police cover in this situation. They literally, by law, are required to make an arrest if they see any evidence of domestic violence. So, by not making an arrest, and not pressing charges, they're essentially saying, in their eyes, that nothing happened.

But...according to the mob...after learning that, Ohio State is somehow expected to go ABOVE the police, find this evidence the police say does not exist, and fire Smith. Or just fire him on allegations alone. Allegations that the police say nothing was there. It's bordering on lunacy at this point.

McMurphy and Courtney Smith. McMurphy going after Shelley Meyer and Courtney Smith’s attorneys statement.

They’re continuing to move the goalposts because they’re desperate to make something stick. They can’t hide their true intentions any longer....

This whole thing has been a total sham. Baseless speculation on top of baseless speculation.

 

[Stark]

When you all get a chance, go look at McMurphy’s new twitter bio and headline picture.

Dude knows he’s losing and he’s taking it so personal. What a fucking clown.

 

[I'mWithDan]

I fail to see where he is sensationalizing. He simply commented that those texts would be squashed in court immediately (which was something I also said days ago) without authentication. This is, essentially, a fact. What is sensationalist about that comment? You might not like it but that doesn't make it sensationalist.

I think the author knows what he is doing here. We can agree to disagree.

Additionally, it's not his job to authenticate texts that McMurphy was solely given and published and is shouting from the rooftops about. That would be McMurphy's job.

Who is saying he didn't do his job in regards to vetting that conversation? Where is there evidence the texts are fake?

 

[Ohio]

Who is saying he didn't do his job in regards to vetting that converation? Where is there evidence the texts are fake?

Nobody knows whether he did or not. That's the point.

There doesn't need to be evidence the texts are fake. If they walk into court with screenshots of unverified texts, they're going to be thrown out immediately. Hell, Smith & his lawyer are probably hoping they try that.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Nobody knows whether he did or not. That's the point.

There doesn't need to be evidence the texts are fake. If they walk into court with screenshots of unverified texts, they're going to be thrown out immediately. Hell, Smith & his lawyer are probably hoping they try that.

If you think that is the point of what he said, we should just move on.

I don't think anyone with a reasonably sound conscience thinks they are gonna walk in to court with the text message printed on a piece of computer paper.

 

[col63onel]

Cortney’s attorney has come out and said she was never been contacted by OSU; IF, proper protocols were followied? does OSU have any responsibility to do that procedurally speaking?

I hope this isn’t construed as attack the victim etc. I’m literally just curious. If the university is aware there is police involvement why would they? Don’t understand why you’d stick more hands in a cookie jar given something of that magnitude and sensitivity.

When James Franklin was at Vandy, 4 of his players were accused of rape (all eventually were convicted). He reportedly contacted the victim after the assault and some accused him of tampering. He ended up being cleared, but given that precedent, I can see how not contacting the victim would be prudent.

 

[billmac91]

Because I made a few extra bucks yesterday and have a communications degree...I decided to have some fun with actual/real reports, and the ability to sound semi-reasonable......these are real records....I promise. Just got them off a criminal background site, and it's absolutely "the" Brett McCmurphy.


Brett Mcmurphy, while living in Tampa from 2001 to 2003 had (6) Criminal Disposition records.

"Recently magnified College Football reporter, Brett McMurphy, stepped into the limelight recently with his in-depth reporting on Zach Smith and the Ohio State Buckeyes. While McMurphy's reporting has shed light on the under-belly of college athletics and the win at all costs mentality of Power 5 Universities, it's also been uncovered that the reporter to break all of this news, may be keeping dark secrets in his own closet.

While doing basic investigative research into Brett McMurphy's background, (6) potential criminal charges were made available. Of the (6) charges, this is how they were distributed:

(2) Potential Criminal Offenses
(2) Criminal Charges
(2) Criminal Disposition Records

Based on the public records found, it is likely McMurphy was arrested at least twice in 2001. The charges against Brett were likely in some part responsible for his termination from ESPN in 2017.

While we do have his criminal background check in hand, we decided not to request comment from Brett, because his background check would not have changed the basic facts of our research. Brett was involved in (6) separate incidents in 2001, and with that in mind, ESPN is likely responsible for keeping him employed up until 2017. Our records indicate with these arrests, ESPN, and Brett were in an untenable situation.

While these (6) incident reports were readily available to ESPN during his employment with company, we have yet to receive word on why they chose to keep him employed with such a controversial past.

More information to follow as we continue to monitor this developing situation.

While my above post comes off condescending as hell, I do want to state, journalism is atrocious in America. All it takes is a person with half a brain who can form semi-controversial statements in a paragraph, and you have news.

Urban deserves to be investigated. But if McMurphy is going to re-write 5 different versions of his original story, well maybe there should be an original on him. It seems 2001 was a bad year for Brett. Especially in Oregon. If I were typing this on Facebook, I'd make a false accusation about what he was doing, and then just edit my posts as more accurate information came along.

As such, all we can presume, is his employer at the time turned a blind eye towards his reckless attitude to the law.

 

[Blink]

View: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1026878473565024256


Look at this piece of shit.

He knows he's about to lose the war against Urban, so now he's going after Shelley.

Not only that, but he has the audacity to cry about Ohio State not immediately answering his requests, when he won't publish the police report that allegedly has the arrest box checked off despite plenty of requests for him to do so.

ALL of this because he's butthurt Urban called him out on his fake story.

Fuck this guy.

View: https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1026928123504418817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



I suppose he is all in at this point. No context, no reference to the other assistants' raises, no mention of the fact that the large raises occurred after making the cfp.

I am seriously starting to think that this guy is angling for a "Skip Bayless does investigative journalism" job somewhere.