2018 NBA Playoffs

[ajz20]

And I doubt either team + Lebron can beat a healthy Warriors team anyway. The Warriors not only have top talent, they have top talent that compliment each other.

Lebron on Houston would be a lot like the OKC experiment from this year: weaker than the sum of its parts. And he’s not going to Boston as long as Kyrie is there.

The NBA is going to be boring for a few years.

Boston with Lebron assuming Brown and Tatum took another leap with a healthy kyrie and Hayward plus Rozier smart and big Al could def play with the warriors. I don’t see it happening, but it def would be a fair fight.

If he really just wants to get to 6 or 7 rings and he will play for the minimum as some of you think, then technically the Warriors makes the most sense I guess followed by Boston then Houston. I don’t think he goes to any of those teams for various reasons.

Again maybe he is above being a ring chaser in his mid 30s, and feels there is something more than that to his legacy.

 

[Rich]

And I doubt either team + Lebron can beat a healthy Warriors team anyway. The Warriors not only have top talent, they have top talent that compliment each other.

Lebron on Houston would be a lot like the OKC experiment from this year: weaker than the sum of its parts. And he’s not going to Boston as long as Kyrie is there.

The NBA is going to be boring for a few years.

LeBron on Houston would smoke them.

You've got the best and like the 4th and 6th best players. They'd win 75 games if they wanted.

 

[Triple-S]

Maybe then the league would be forced into a long work stoppage and some major changes long term that would make it more like the NHL and NFL.

It's a very flawed league in terms of how championships are won, who can contend for those championships and who winds up throwing the parade in June.

The only "non" Lakers, Celtics dynasties that come to mind would be the Spurs, Warriors (fuck them) and Bulls.

The Spurs reign has pretty much ended (when Duncan retired IMO), and the Bulls have not been a championship factor since 1996 (The Rose teams were paper tigers in hindsight).

The Warriors got lucky because they followed the Garnet Celtics, LeBron Heat formula in just refusining the normal thing in chasing the money for higher contracts.

If you are:
-2016 Cavaliers
-2006, 2012, 2013 Heat
-94, 95 Rockets
-2011 Mavericks
-1989 1990, 2005 Pistons

Congrats...you're in such a small group of teams that can say they've puled it off in a league that has probably the least amount of parity in sports.

Again, hindsight? I'm glad we even got "1" at this point.

 

[ajz20]

It's a very flawed league in terms of how championships are won, who can contend for those championships and who winds up throwing the parade in June.

The only "non" Lakers, Celtics dynasties that come to mind would be the Spurs, Warriors (fuck them) and Bulls.

The Spurs reign has pretty much ended (when Duncan retired IMO), and the Bulls have not been a championship factor since 1996 (The Rose teams were paper tigers in hindsight).

The Warriors got lucky because they followed the Garnet Celtics, LeBron Heat formula in just refusining the normal thing in chasing the money for higher contracts.

If you are:
-2016 Cavaliers
-2006, 2012, 2013 Heat
-94, 95 Rockets
-2011 Mavericks
-1989 1990, 2005 Pistons

Congrats...you're in such a small group of teams that can say they've puled it off in a league that has probably the least amount of parity in sports.

Again, hindsight? I'm glad we even got "1" at this point.

As we have discussed before for years it should be about drafting, developing and coaching. Not manipulating free agency and having an owner that can pay deep into the luxury tax , and the size of your market.
I have so much respect for the spurs. It did not come easy at all and they did it the right way. They did get one big dose of luck with Robinson getting hurt to have a high enough pick to win the lottery , but they drafted and developed thier guys the right way.
This is the type of league the nba should strive for.

 

[Triple-S]

LeBron on Houston would smoke them.

You've got the best and like the 4th and 6th best players. They'd win 75 games if they wanted.

The thing that blows about this is...how they've somehow made a team accomplishment (winning a title) into an individual thing,

It's why Garnett left
It's why LeBron left the first (and maybe 2nd) time.
It's why Durant left.

There's this group of lowest common denominator types in the media (Skip, SAS, ESPN, Simmons, Rappaport) and fans (JORDAN V. KOBE! GOTTA HAVE THIS DEBATE GUYS) that have really poisoned the water.

This isn't the WWE but I'll be damned if those assholes seem like they'd rather be talking that at times.

As we have discussed before for years it should be about drafting, developing and coaching. Not manipulating free agency and having an owner that can pay deep into the luxury tax , and the size of your market.
I have so much respect for the spurs. It did not come easy at all and they did it the right way. They did get one big dose of luck with Robinson getting hurt to have a high enough pick to win the lottery , but they drafted and developed thier guys the right way.
This is the type of league the nba should strive for.

I think free agency, and trades are fine.

I would say that the NBA needs a rule if a certain caliber of player bolts that the other team has to (by default) give up some sort of young talent or a draft pick.

That and a limit on the amount of MVP's one is allowed to carry per roster.

 

[Rich]

Can we at least give Houston one more game before melting down though? They win the next one and it'll be the first time GS has been tied in a series since getting Durant. Just give them an actual shot to find their way in this series before ripping your hair out.

 

[CHIMOCHIS]

Everyone knows KD will finish with more titles than Jordan

Then I’ll love to hear the excuses for that bitch as old bald head being better than KD
7>6

I got KD winning 7-8

 

[Wulfgar1224]

Can we at least give Houston one more game before melting down though? They win the next one and it'll be the first time GS has been tied in a series since getting Durant. Just give them an actual shot to find their way in this series before ripping your hair out.

I would love to think Houston can keep it close. But, after watching the game tonight, I just cannot see them taking this series past 5 games. I don't consider it melting down. The Warriors are just better.

 

[Tubs023]

Everyone knows KD will finish with more titles than Jordan

Then I’ll love to hear the excuses for that bitch as old bald head being better than KD
7>6

I got KD winning 7-8

It will still be hard because he wasn't 6 for 6 with 6 mvps along with 10 scoring titles and one defensive player of the year. That argument for many cannot be topped.

 

[Tubs023]

Golden State can be beat. Outside of Philly and possibly Boston it will take some serious manipulation by players to form a super duper team that has a major inside presence. Just having shooters and two way players will not be enough since they added KD. You have to offset their snipers with a dominant inside game allowing multiple cracks at the hoop. The two teams that could make this happen immediately are Philly and New Orleans. They either have the pieces to trade or the cap space. Of course LeBron would be missing piece after the trades were made by signing as a free agent.

 

[SmudgeHog]

Everyone knows KD will finish with more titles than Jordan

Then I’ll love to hear the excuses for that bitch as old bald head being better than KD
7>6

I got KD winning 7-8

What happens when/if Kerr gets his 11th ring? He has what, perhaps 8 now between bulls spurs and warriors? Not enough fingers.

 

[Real Deal]

The only way GS can be beat is this:

Circle Draymond Green on the whiteboard. Just circle his name.

Attack him when he's on defense. For instance, LeBron, Harden, superstar player etc has to have the mindset of attacking him and getting him in foul trouble. This also plays into the refs blowing the whistle. If you can get Draymond off the floor, then you're in good shape.

When Draymond is on offense, you simply bait him, dare him to do shit he isn't accustomed to doing, and make him shoot 3's. I can live with Draymond going Steph Curry out there and getting beat because of it. I can live with Draymond putting the ball on the floor and doing his funky layups.

But besides all this, there's no way to defend KD, Curry, and Klay being the reliable 3rd banana. There's no way. You gotta make Draymond be the dictator.

 

[CHIMOCHIS]

What happens when/if Kerr gets his 11th ring? He has what, perhaps 8 now between bulls spurs and warriors? Not enough fingers.

He becomes the greatest coach of all time

Phil who

 

[cavsfever]

The problem with this shit is that Golden State is making it look like the greatest accomplishment and most pressing need in the NBA is forming a superteam to beat them and restore competitiveness to the league, not winning Cleveland another championship. Huge temptation for Lebron to leave us if that's true.

 

[KilgoreTrout]

As we have discussed before for years it should be about drafting, developing and coaching. Not manipulating free agency and having an owner that can pay deep into the luxury tax , and the size of your market.
I have so much respect for the spurs. It did not come easy at all and they did it the right way. They did get one big dose of luck with Robinson getting hurt to have a high enough pick to win the lottery , but they drafted and developed thier guys the right way.
This is the type of league the nba should strive for.

The Cavs have not drafted, developed, or coached, in any non-obvious way (four #1 overalls, 1 botched horribly).