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The knocking Watson stuff needs to stop.

He's a rookie and leading the league in passing touchdowns.


.... he didn't even start week 1.
 
I don't have the energy to document all the awful coaching decisions but there are enough that we can all agree that losses piling up is not merely a symptom of youth.

I get the "let's not make a change crowd" ...as far as where you are coming from. I just have completely lost confidence in this staff the last few weeks.

The "bench Kizer to let him reset" is honestly a line of bullshit to me. Plenty of QB's have had horrendous rookie years. Being horrendous as a rookie doesn't mean you will be horrendous forever. But part of taking that beating is a player receiving a vote of confidence from a franchise that HE is the GUY and will be supported through the growing pains of getting better. Then working through those growing pains and exiting that black hole as a better player, who feels like the franchise is behind him.

Wentz effectively went through this last season, where he hit a stretch where he was GOD AWFUL. Through weeks 2-13 last year, look at his accumulative stats:

Weeks 2-13 (11 Games):

2530 yards (230 PYPG), 7 TD's, 13 INT's

6 of those 11 games he was a sub 60% passer and the team went 3-8, including a 5 game losing streak.

Wentz was never benched, nor did they ever consider benching him. While he likely lost some confidence in his play, he didn't lose confidence in the franchise or coaching staff.

That's my problem with the Kizer thing......we are undermining him for no reason. Hogan doesn't have a future in the NFL and was even worse than Kizer has been. Kizer is watching on the sideline thinking....."I'm sitting in favor of this bum?". All the offensive players are saying...."Kizer is sitting in favor of this bum?".

I'm not saying Kizer is the second coming but, to me, you can only sell the "step back" line of bullshit if you have a good veteran backup QB who can steady the ship and keep you in (and win) a few games. Without that, this whole benching thing is a complete panic move and anyone selling it as anything else is buying what these guys are selling IMO.

Again, if there was even a shred of evidence Hue and staff knew what they were doing, I'd be more inclined to keep them around but he seriously looks so far in over his head. Could care less about his track record. He openly said to trust him on Kessler and Kizer, who 1 was awful and 2, he already benched after a few weeks....while the FO passed on not one but two franchise QB's. Someone's head needs to roll for that, I'm sorry. These guys get paid a shit load of money.....this isn't high school football. When you make (bad) franchise altering decisions, you get fired (both with coaching on the field and personnel decisions in the draft).

I have no faith in him either, but a mid-season change is impractical so there's no reason that a decision need be made now. Two more weeks until the bye. See what adjustments we make then, and how the second half of the season goes.

We should have a better idea on both him and Kizer by the end of the season.
 
Someone name probable franchise QB’s the new regime has not taken that were there for them or that they likely could have traded up for.
 
Someone name probable franchise QB’s the new regime has not taken that were there for them or that they likely could have traded up for.

I can only suspect that the list is almost as long as the number of QBs that have started for us since 1999. Fuckin' clowns.
 
Someone name probable franchise QB’s the new regime has not taken that were there for them or that they likely could have traded up for.
Goff, Wentz, Prescott, Watson and probably Trubisky
 
Goff, Wentz, Prescott, Watson and probably Trubisky

Goff and Watson haven't shown they are. Prescott wouldn't have made it on this Browns team. Wentz is showing he is one, while Trubisky it is still too early to tell
 

Thats what I believe Haslem will have put on their shoulders after the way these two seasons have been. Wild Card or go home type of thing. I am sure if we go 8-8 it may be what he is looking for, but if next season we don't vastly improve then heads will role at least to the point we are a game out of wild card spot, then people will be fired.
 
I don't have the energy to document all the awful coaching decisions but there are enough that we can all agree that losses piling up is not merely a symptom of youth.

I get the "let's not make a change crowd" ...as far as where you are coming from. I just have completely lost confidence in this staff the last few weeks.

The "bench Kizer to let him reset" is honestly a line of bullshit to me. Plenty of QB's have had horrendous rookie years. Being horrendous as a rookie doesn't mean you will be horrendous forever. But part of taking that beating is a player receiving a vote of confidence from a franchise that HE is the GUY and will be supported through the growing pains of getting better. Then working through those growing pains and exiting that black hole as a better player, who feels like the franchise is behind him.

Wentz effectively went through this last season, where he hit a stretch where he was GOD AWFUL. Through weeks 2-13 last year, look at his accumulative stats:

Weeks 2-13 (11 Games):

2530 yards (230 PYPG), 7 TD's, 13 INT's

6 of those 11 games he was a sub 60% passer and the team went 3-8, including a 5 game losing streak.

Wentz was never benched, nor did they ever consider benching him. While he likely lost some confidence in his play, he didn't lose confidence in the franchise or coaching staff.

That's my problem with the Kizer thing......we are undermining him for no reason. Hogan doesn't have a future in the NFL and was even worse than Kizer has been. Kizer is watching on the sideline thinking....."I'm sitting in favor of this bum?". All the offensive players are saying...."Kizer is sitting in favor of this bum?".

I'm not saying Kizer is the second coming but, to me, you can only sell the "step back" line of bullshit if you have a good veteran backup QB who can steady the ship and keep you in (and win) a few games. Without that, this whole benching thing is a complete panic move and anyone selling it as anything else is buying what these guys are selling IMO.

Again, if there was even a shred of evidence Hue and staff knew what they were doing, I'd be more inclined to keep them around but he seriously looks so far in over his head. Could care less about his track record. He openly said to trust him on Kessler and Kizer, who 1 was awful and 2, he already benched after a few weeks....while the FO passed on not one but two franchise QB's. Someone's head needs to roll for that, I'm sorry. These guys get paid a shit load of money.....this isn't high school football. When you make (bad) franchise altering decisions, you get fired (both with coaching on the field and personnel decisions in the draft).

I don't totally disagree with you, but I have a few counter points.

No. 1 - Wentz was a No. 2 overall pick and top choices like that get SIGNIFICANTLY more leeway than guys drafted in the middle of the 2nd round.

No. 2 - Kizer was much worse in the first five games of this season than any five game stretch of Wentz's rookie year. Kizer was no joke like "worst QB in the last 10-15 years" bad. A sub-50 QB rating is nearly impossible to do over a long period of time. Even JaMarcus Russell never pulled that level of garbage off.

No. 3 - Fluke or not, Hogan came in and moved the ball significantly better than Kizer did in literally every game he played with the same OL, same WRs, same coaching scheme.
 
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Brent Brown
Different sport and the 76ers were openly purposely losing

Also he hasn't turned anything around yet. A lot of people are crowning the 76ers... still haven't won 30 games under him yet
 
John Cooper is 80. But he is a young 80.
 

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