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2023-24 Season | Game #24 | Cavs @ Celtics | Dec. 12, 2023 | 7:30 p.m.

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That 3-2 zone kept giving corner 3s to White. Unless Mobley is in the game, that defensive scheme should not be used.

Loved seeing Cavs attempt more 3s like a modern NBA offense.
 
It was cute while it lasted. I knew we wouldn't be able to hang.
 
JBB gets fired....but you have to also fire Stefanski.

Deal or no deal?
No deal. There's no guarantee the new coach will be better than JBB--or Stefanski's replacement will be better.

My standing rule is keep what you have unless you can improve.
 
No deal. There's no guarantee the new coach will be better than JBB--or Stefanski's replacement will be better.

My standing rule is keep what you have unless you can improve.

Schwartz elevated to HC....

Chris Quinn comes in to coach Cavs.

Deal or no deal?
 
Sucks we lost after putting it on them early but fun game to go to. First time at td garden and fans really got into it. First thing that happened when I sat down was the guy next to me asked if I was Tatum’s friend. Apparently I bought Tatum’s friend’s seat

Only commentary from the game is the Celtics were absolutely ready for Mitchell’s move where he basically rotates the ball over the defender’s head when he goes from dribbling to gathering. From my memory it was stolen every single time

Live it felt like the Celtics got away with quite a bit of contact and the Cavs got called for some stuff it didn’t look like was being called on the celtics

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That 3-2 zone kept giving corner 3s to White. Unless Mobley is in the game, that defensive scheme should not be used.

Loved seeing Cavs attempt more 3s like a modern NBA offense.
It probably shouldn't be used with him in the game either.
 
That 3-2 zone kept giving corner 3s to White. Unless Mobley is in the game, that defensive scheme should not be used.

Loved seeing Cavs attempt more 3s like a modern NBA offense.
It probably shouldn't be used with him in the game either.
 
Cavs were good, Celtics better. The Celtic bench of Houser, Horford, and Pritchard were all between +10 and +14. We had Thompson, Niang, and Okoro at -11, -14, and -15. Okoro needs to be taken out of the rotation as soon as Mobley can play. He was a -15 in 16 minutes tonight after a -21 last night. We're playing 4-on-5 offensively when he's on the floor and he offers almost nothing in defense or rebounding.

The Celtics shot 26 free throws to 9 for the Cavs. Tatum and Brown are just too quick and skilled to be defended without fouling and Porzingus is too big. Tatum and Porzingus combined for 18 free throws. The excessive fouling against big men that was very evident in both games against Orlando showed up again tonight. The Cavs just can't defend talented bigs like Banchero, Wager, Tatum, and Porzingus without fouling. This wil continue to be a problem.

The good news is our starters (minus Mobley) played their starters even. Our starters were a combined +10 while theirs were -4. It was their bench that won the game. The Celtics are considered to have the best stating five in the league (and the numbers support that), so to see our starters with Wade in for Mobley play them even was very encouraging.

Getting Mobley back puts Wade on the bench and we probably don't need Thompson. Getting Jerome back moves LeVert to small forward with Strus and we don't need Okoro. I'm starting to think the Cavs can compete with the Celtics when healthy. Tonight the game was tied halfway through the 4th quarter until the Celtics slowly pulled away.

Nice to see Allen and Strus bounce back from horrible games last night. Allen had a line of 14/5/5 with 3 steals and 2 blocks. He was a +4. Strus had a line of 17/9/3 with 17 points on 5-for-11 on 3's. Garland and Mitchell played very well. The Cavs were just one player short of a win and that player was Evan Mobley. Thompson was a -11 in 12 minutes and we lost by 7.
 
I'm listening to the C's broadcast, and they were talking about what else this Cavs team needs.

They said they need Strus and Niang to play well, but what I think we need is a banger down low who can score in the paint. You know, someone like LeBron James.
That’s why we don’t get to the FT line! No inside scoring threat unless it’s a lob for a dunk
 
Thompson, Niang, and Okoro combined for 8 points in 51 minutes and a -40. The failure of Okoro, the #5 overall pick, to develop into just a useful bench player is really hurting this franchise. I'm willing to bet they never again draft a small forward who can't shoot.

I wish they could trade for Anunoby once Toronto decides to blow it up, but I don't think we have the resources.
 
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One note: The issue the Celtics really exposed is the Cavs lack of point of attack defense. We saw it when Isaac Okoro was out, and we really saw it tonight when Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum went up against Georges Niang, Dean Wade, Caris LeVert, and Isaac Okoro. You can add Mobley back in there but that’s simply not going to cut it come playoff time. The Cavs have a big wing problem (look no further than Paolo Banchero) and don’t have the defensive counter to it on the roster. You can throw those guys out there, and those guys will get there’s. But the Cavs don’t have the size/speed/strength combo to successfully combat those types all game long while also challenging them offensively. If there’s a trade deadline goal for Koby Altman, it’s finding that skill set.

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Just caught up on a recorded feed. The optimistic guy in me hopes you see that it could have been our game until late, on the road. The pessimist in me thinks a shift is needed,and I don't know if that looks like a new coach or JBB becoming surprisingly influential out of nowhere.
 

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