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Here is my series preview. It's long, but this is the playoffs.

Overview:

Orlando and Cleveland are similar in that they are excellent defensively and slightly below average offensively. In terms of points per 100 possessions (excluding garbage time) Orlando ranks 22nd in points scored while the Cavs are 6th in points allowed.

On the other end of the court, the Cavs are 18th in scoring while Orlando is 2nd in scoring defense. Both teams feature defenses that are much better than the opposing offenses. The Cavaliers and Magic ranked 14th and 15th in effective field goal percentage.

Rebounding:

Orlando ranks 7th in offensive rebound percentage while the Cavs rank 7th in defensive rebounding percentage, so they are both strong on the glass when Orlando misses a shot. The Magic averaged 10.5 offensive rebounds per game for the season but in four games against the Cavs their average was 9.3. The Cavs did a nice job on the defensive glass against this team.

The Cavs were below average on the offensive glass, ranking 22nd, while the Magic with that huge front line ranked 2nd on the defensive glass, so don’t expect many offensive boards by the Cavs. But the Cavs averaged 11.0 offensive rebounds against the Magic this year, higher than their season average. I would definitely be happy with 11 offensive rebounds per game in this series.

When Orlando has the ball:

Orlando leads the NBA in shooting frequency at the rim at 38.5%. They are 14th in accuracy at the rim. The Cavaliers are 3rd best in opponents’ percentage at the rim. So basically, Orlando takes more shots at the rim than any team, they’re average at making them, and the Cavs are 3rd best at forcing misses at the rim. Seems like a good matchup for the Cavs.

The Magic are 8th in points in the paint, 27th in fast break points, and last in points from 3’s. They are massively dependent on getting points in the paint from their half-court offense.

The one area they excel offensively is free throw attempts per offensive play. They are 6th in free throws made per game, so the Cavs need to be conscious of not fouling excessively. They are 26th in assists per possession, so they tend to isolate and then attack the rim, hoping for a bucket or a foul.

Orlando ranks 25th in mid-range frequency and 26th in mid-range accuracy. They take few mid-range shots and they miss more than all but four teams. The Cavs are 7th best at forcing misses on mid-range shots. This is a bad matchup for the Magic and I don’t see them taking many mid-range shots.

Orlando ranks 27th in 3-point frequency and 25th in 3-point accuracy; the Cavs rank 21st in defending 3’s. The Cavs are below average but the Magic take fewer 3’s than all but three teams and are well below average at making them.

So the Magic are in the bottom six in both mid-range and 3-point frequency while leading the NBA in shots at the rim. They do not have a balanced offense that can score on all three levels. They don’t score in transition. And they’re not all that great at the rim, ranking just 14th in shooting percentage, while the Cavs are 3rd in rim protection. This team is a great matchup for the Cavaliers defense, as long as they don’t get their bigs in foul trouble.

I’m wondering if Damian Jones and Tristan Thompson may have bigger roles than in the regular season with the Magic having five players that are 6’10” and another 6’11”.

When the Cavaliers have the ball:

Offensively the Cavs are similar to the Magic in that they prefer to attack the rim, ranking 5th in frequency, and are average at converting shots at the rim, ranking 18th. Strus, LeVert, Okoro, and Garland all made between 58-61% of their shots at the rim - well below average for their positions.

The Magic ranked 10th at defending the rim, so they were above average but not elite. When the Cavs’ smaller players (the exception being Mitchell) to go inside they should be looking to pass first or shoot a floater or a pull-up jumper rather than a layup. They especially need to be careful about kick-outs from the paint; the Magic were 3rd in steals per play. With all that length they can easily intercept passes from the paint to the perimeter.

When Garland, LeVert, or Strus get into the paint they should look to pass to a big or shoot a floater or pull-up jumper. Layups are likely to get blocked and passes to the corner or wings are likely to be stolen.

The Cavs were last in the NBA in mid-range frequency; they’ve clearly been coached to avoid that shot at all costs. But they rank 7th in accuracy on the long mid-range shots (from 14 feet to the 3-point line). These are mostly jumpers from the elbows.

I think they should take more of these shots, especially if the alternative is to attack the rim against a couple of 6’10” guys. Garland, Mitchell, Strus, and Niang are all shooting 47-50% on these shots. If the 3’s aren’t falling and the rim is protected then the mid-range jumper is not a bad shot, IMO.

The Cavs rank 7th in 3-point frequency and 15th in 3-point accuracy. Orlando ranks 14th in defending 3’s, but they are 3rd in defending corner 3’s, probably because the 6’10” guys on their front line only need two steps from the paint to contest a corner 3. Or maybe their defense is just structured to prevent corner 3’s, which are 2.5% more accurate than the non-corner variety.

So this is a wash as the Cavs are average at making 3’s and the Magic are average at defending them. However, the Magic rank 18th at defending non-corner 3’s while the Cavs are 11th at making them, so the Cavs actually have a small edge on the non-corner 3’s whereas the corner 3’s will be difficult to get off.

Bottom line:

On defense the Cavs need to protect the rim without excessive fouling and force the Magic to shoot either mid-range jumpers or 3’s, neither of which they like to do nor are they good at.

On offense the Cavs need to use their advantage in quickness to break down the defense and create open 3’s (especially from the wings) and force their bigs to contest the layup, allowing a pass to our bigs for the finish. The key is avoiding turnovers as the Magic are 2nd in forcing turnovers with those long arms.

Instead of throwing a ton of passes the Cavs may be better getting a quicker player on a taller, less agile player and attacking the rim with a Cavs’ big ready for a pass or to crash the glass.

Orlando personnel:

PF Paolo Banchero, 22.6 ppg, 7 rebounds, 5 assists. Shoots 45% overall but just 34% on 3’s. The Magic are outscored by 9.1 points per 100 possessions when he is on the floor; easily the worst of their rotation players. In fact, nobody else is worse than -2.6.

Banchero is a high volume but low productivity shooter. He's in the top 1% in usage but only in the 17th percentile at his position in points per shot attempt.

SF Franz Wagner, 19.7 ppg, 5 rebounds on 48% overall and 28% on 3’s. Like Banchero he’s 6’10”. He has the team’s 3rd best plus/minus at +5.3.

PG Jalen Suggs, 12.6 ppg on 47% overall and 40% on 3’s. The Magic are 2.6 points worse when he is on the floor.

SG Gary Harris, 7 ppg on 44% and 37%. The Magic are pretty much the same whether he plays or not (+1.7 points).

C Wendell Carter Jr, 11 points and 7 rebounds in 26 minutes. Carter shoots 53% and 37%.

The bench consists of PG Cole Anthony, 11.6 points on 44% and 34%, C Mo Wagner, 11 points and 4 rebounds in 18 minutes per game, PG Markelle Fultz, 8 points on 47% and 22%, and C Jonathan Isaac, 7 points and 5 rebounds in 17 minutes. Isaac is an outstanding defender who leads the Magic with a +9.6. Second is Joe Ingles at +6.7. Ingles is a 36-year-old sharpshooter who averages just 4.4 points in 17 minutes, but shoots 43.5% on 3’s. You can’t leave him alone.

Key matchups:

Donovan Mitchell against Suggs and Fultz, two big, physical, aggressive, and defense-oriented guards. Can they slow him down?

Jarrett Allen against Carter and Isaac. Isaac is easily their best defender.

Evan Mobley against Banchero and possibly Franz Wagner, if he guards him.

Strus and Okoro against Franz Wagner, who will have a big height advantage over both of them.

What they are saying:

We’re going to have to show them what playoff basketball is and go out there, and…throw the first punch, and that’s what you’re looking to do in any type of fight because that’s what playoff basketball is. It’s a seven-game series, and it’s a fight. Every second that’s out there, it’s a fight. - Georges Niang

If you allow them to play in the half court, they use their size defensively to keep everybody in front, crowd the paint and make it difficult. - JBB

They’re tough. They play physical. They play hard. They’re young and they’re hungry. We better be ready to match the physicality and the physicality goes up in the playoffs, so we better be ready to make some tough plays, play tougher and just play our game. - Max Strus

I think we just have to go in with the mentality that we have to throw the first punch. It’s one of those first-to-85 type of games. It’s gonna be a lot of defense. Nothing is gonna come easy in the paint or on the 3-point line. - Jarrett Allen

Orlando was awesome with defensive hydra Jonathan Isaac on the floor, outscoring opponents by 10.8 points per 100 possessions and allowing just 102.1 points per 100 possessions. He won’t start, but he’ll be a huge factor against the Cavs’ huge frontcourt…Don’t sleep on this one: Points will likely be scarce, and it could become a ’90s-style rock fight. - John Hollinger

Five of the Magic’s top-eight minute-earners — Fultz, Franz Wagner, Mo Wagner Cole Anthony, and Paolo Banchero — shoot worse than 34% from 3-point range. One more rotation piece — defensive stopper Jonathan Isaac — attempts fewer than two 3-pointers per game. So when those players take the floor, Cleveland can take stress off its defense with a simple defensive strategy: Let ‘em shoot. - Jimmy Watkins


I listened to a podcast from a Cavs fan in Canada named Justin Rowan who did a numbers dive and came up with some interesting stuff. I assume his research is accurate. According to him and his podcast buddy Carter Chase…

1. Orlando has the NBA’s #1 defense since the All-Star break. They lead the NBA in free throw attempts. Their offense is designed to get a favorable matchup based on height advantage and attack the rim, drawing the foul. They also force a ton of turnovers on defense, ranking 2nd.

The Magic win by playing great defense, forcing lots of turnovers, and drawing a ton of fouls by getting into the paint with a height advantage. They are 2nd at defensive rebound percentage. They are very tall and play at a slow pace so nobody is leaking out in transition. Everybody goes for the rebound since they don't fast break.

2. The Cavs, OTOH, need to push the pace and get good shots before Orlando can set up their half-court defense, as JBB said in the quote above. Orlando will want to slow it down, the Cavs will want to speed it up.

3. The Cavs are 7th in 3-point frequency while the Magic are 25th, so this will be a series between a team that wants to push the pace, pass the ball to create good shots, and shoot 3’s against a team that wants to go slow, force switches, and then attack matchups.

4. No Cavs’ 5-man unit has played more than 17 minutes against Orlando. The current Cavs’ starters have played together for 12 minutes against the Magic this year and have a +26 point differential with a offensive rating of 130 points per 100 possessions, which is excellent.

5. [A tweet] One thing I really want to keep an eye on is how the two bigs do vs Orlando. In 31 minutes [Mobley and Allen] played vs Orlando the Cavs had a 129.2 ORTG, 93.9 DRTG, 100.61 pace and a 84.4 DREB%.

I think maintaining a higher pace when big is going to be really important for the offense. - Justin Rowan @ Cavsanada


If those numbers are correct the Cavs kicked butt when Allen and Mobley were on the floor together. They played fast, dominated the defensive glass, and were a +35 points per 100 possessions. Mobley is shooting 62% and Allen 70% against the Magic.

6. Of the other 29 NBA teams, the Cavaliers had the 5th best offensive rating against Orlando. They had games of 126, 121, 109 (with Mitchell out), and 94 points against the Magic. Mobley and LeVert were out when they scored 94. For some reason the Cavs did better than all but four teams against the Magic’s defense this year.

7. Since the All-Star break Strus and Niang are hitting 41% and 42% of their 3’s. Garland and Mitchell will have seven days off by the time they play Game 1, which will help them physically.

8. The Magic are not a good road team with an offensive rating of 110.4 on the road and a record of 18-23. Banchero only shot 2-for-10 when guarded by Okoro in the last game.

9. Suggs and Isaac are great defensive players.

10. All the Cavaliers except Wade, LeVert, and Merrill had a positive plus/minus when playing Orlando. (I might add that LeVert was injured for three of the four games).

11. Rowan's concern is the Cavs getting in foul trouble. The Magic have three starters and three bench players who are 6’10”. The Cavs have just Mobley and Allen, unless they want to use Damian Jones. If Mobley or Allen has to sit because of foul trouble the Cavs would face a huge height disadvantage at two positions.

So that’s the preview. FWIW, I don’t buy the prevailing wisdom that the Magic are a young team with no playoff experience so they are at a big disadvantage. I heard the same thing when the Browns played the Texans in the playoff game; Stroud was a rookie QB, most of the Texans had never experienced the playoffs, the Browns had battle-tested veterans like Flacco and Amari Cooper, there’s no substitute for playoff experience, etc. The talented young Texans destroyed the Browns.

I agree with what Max Strus said - the Magic are young, hungry, tough, and physical and the Cavs better be ready to match the physicality. I’m sure the Magic are aware that the Cavs are talking about “throwing the first punch” and “showing them what playoff basketball is” and will respond accordingly.

In none of the games was rebounding a major factor. Both teams were pretty even. I think it will come down to turnovers and 3-point shooting. The Cavs can win if they limit their turnovers and hit a decent percentage of 3’s. The lost to Orlando twice in the regular season; once when they missed 31 of 40 threes and the other when they committed 19 turnovers that led to 28 points.
 
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The strategy of avoiding midrange shots and going with threes and buckets at the rim is reasonable for the regular season. Generally defenses toughen up in the playoffs and midrange shots are available. I hope we are opportunistic and take open midrange shots if Orlando denies other options.
 
Just to let everyone know, playoff tickets are ridiculously cheap. There are pairs of seats tickets available for as low as $33 (each ticket). I just got a pair high up but center court for $46.

I'm spamming this in a few threads because I assumed they tickets would be much more expensive, but decided to go when I saw how cheap they were. Even if you don't think they can go far, playoff atmosphere is always fun.
 
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My overly simple analysis - We need Donovan to be the best player on the court and everyone else hold their own. Every series seems to have that one dude who has the game of his life, hopefully its one of our guys. I honestly think we are better than Orlando, but not by much.
 
No excuses.

Let's go!
 
Just to let everyone know, playoff tickets are ridiculously cheap. There are pairs of seats tickets available for as low as $33 (each ticket). I just got a pair high up but center court for $46.

I'm spamming this in a few threads because I assumed they tickets would be much more expensive, but decided to go when I saw how cheap they were. Even if you don't think they can go far, playoff atmosphere is always fun.
Wow, that makes me want to fly up just to see a game!

Unfortunately, I'm not expecting greatness out of this team this year. I fear that Bickerstaff will be exposed just like he was last year.

And, with Jordi Fernandez, our old assistant, being snatched up by the Nets, our chances of finding that next coach grow dimmer.
 
Wow, that makes me want to fly up just to see a game!

Unfortunately, I'm not expecting greatness out of this team this year. I fear that Bickerstaff will be exposed just like he was last year.

And, with Jordi Fernandez, our old assistant, being snatched up by the Nets, our chances of finding that next coach grow dimmer.

I live up here, so distance isn't an issue.

But hell, even if people have little hope for the team, playoff games are always fun because of the greater intensity, etc.. I'll go in there with a "fuck the Magic, we're going to kick their little Disney Princess asses" attitude, and scream and support the Cavs. That alone is fun even if we don't win.

I went to a s*** ton of Cavs games over the years when they sucked and there was no hope of even making the playoffs, and I still had fun. Why the hell wouldn't I go to a game when we're actually in the playoffs?
 
In each of the four regular season games the team that had the best 3-point percentage won. That's the one constant that I can see. The Magic lost a winnable game by going 2-for-23 from deep and the Cavs lost a winnable game by going 9-for-40. I don't think either team can win if they have a really bad night on 3's.

The Cavs dominated when Allen and Mobley were on the court together, but it was for just 31 minutes and it was possibly when Orlando did not have all their starters. But the only Magic starters who missed any games were Carter (2) and Harris (1). Their key guys Franz Wagner, Banchero, and Suggs did not miss any.

When the Cavs' starters take the court Saturday against the Magic starters it will be the first time this season both starting units will face each other. The closest they came was in the first game back in December when the Cavs had all five starters and the Magic were missing only Carter. However, Suggs left with an injury after just 9 minutes so the Magic were down two starters and lost that game.

This series is tough to predict because we've never seen both starting fives play each other. Also, LeVert and Fultz both missed 3 of the 4 games; each of them are important pieces off the bench.

I really think it's going to come down to the Cavs' 3-point shooting. It's going to be tough for both teams to score in the paint and Orlando is not a good 3-point team.
 
Some numbers for April:

LeVert is shooting 54% overall and 46% on 3's (rounded off). He's averaging 18.3 points and 4.8 rebounds. Also 87.5% from the free throw line. He might be playing the best basketball of his career.

Jarrett Allen is averaging 18.4 points and 9.9 rebounds, shooting 66.7%.

Garland is averaging 18.2 points and 6.5 assists with only 3 turnovers in 34 minutes per game. He's shooting 43.6% on 3's. His only issue has been his 2-point attempts are also at 43.6%.

Mobley is averaging 15.3 points and 6.9 rebounds at 52.5% from the field and 35.7% from the 3-point line.

Okoro is averaging just 9 points in 26 minutes, but he's been very efficient, hitting 58% overall and 44.4% on 3's.

Strus has a line of 11.1/6.7/6.9 in April. Not a lot of points, but lots of rebounds and assists. Post All-Star he's hitting 45% overall and 41% on 3's. In April it's 40% on both 2's and 3's.

Mitchell in his last two games averaged 31 points, 4 assists, and 6.5 rebounds shooting 55% overall and 45% on 3's. He also had 7 steals in those two games. He's had seven days off since playing against Indiana.

Niang is the only guy who has not looked good recently; he's hitting 40% and 31% in April. But he's hit 8 of his last 17 three-point attempts.

All in all, everybody seems to be ready and has played well the last couple of weeks. Mitchell is the key, along with Garland, Strus, LeVert, Okoro, and Niang being able to hit their 3's. Orlando defends the paint well so being able to knock down the 3's will be huge, IMO. Recently everybody has been shooting very well from distance.
 
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Boston 63-19:

Johnson
Ainge
Parrish
McHale
Bird

Cleveland 36-46:

Hubbard (Canton McKinley)
Hinson
Mark “The Hammer” West
Bagley
World

Best of 5:

Game 1: 126-123 Boston, free throws BOS 35/39, Cavs 17/27
Game 2: 108-106 Boston, free throws BOS 18/21, Cavs 16/21

(city fired up with two close losses to the mighty Celtics, Brew with hundreds of others meets the team at Hopkins)

Game 3: 105-98 Cleveland, no Bird, as the game is ending I’m chanting with everyone else “WE WANT BIRD! WE WANT BIRD!”.

Bird gives an interview, clearly pissed, says “They don’t want me. They don’t want any part of me.”

Game 4: 117-115 Boston, series over. Hard fought game. Cavs with 40 fouls; Hinson, Shelton and Poquette foul out; World, Hubbard, West and Jones each with 5 fouls. The foul calls all series were definitely slanted for the Celtics; a few late game calls were laughable.

I‘m right by the large player exit in the corner of the Coliseum. McHale waves his hands and laughs at the crowd but has to duck and run as Cavalier fans throw all kinds of shit at him. I sit there pissed at the bad foul calls for fifteen minutes after the game ends. Fucking Celtics.

Plain Dealer headline next day says it all: “Cavs go down fighting, 117-115”.

Never was more proud to be a Cavalier fan. We were completely overmatched but gave those bastards a fight. A better Cavaliers team ended Bird’s career in the same building in another hard fought series. That’s what’s necessary.

We‘re playing the Orlando Magic. Not exactly the 1985 Prime Celtics. Our boys need to bring it. They need to “throw the first punch” and physically battle. Get the crowd going. Don’t be afraid to foul. They learned last year what needs to be done, it’s time to do it.
 
Here are my series predictions from the other tplayoff thread. After reviewing Wham's awesome summary, I won't change anything. The teams are closely matched and we should win because of homecourt advantage.

If we lose a game at home, we'll likely lose.

Playoff predictions for Orlando series:
Game 1: 52% chance of victory 111-101 Cavs

Game 2: If Game 1 lost, Game 2 chance of victory 50% 112-109 Cavs
If Game 1 won, Game 2 chance of victory 55% 117-110

Game 3: If 1-1, chance of victory 48% Cavs 109-104
If 2-0, chance of victory 51% Cavs 115-110
If 0-2, chance of victory 44% Cavs 108-101

Game 4: If 2-1, chance of victory 50% Cavs 113-106
If 1-2, chance of victory 45%, Cavs 114--111
If 3-0, chance of victory 54% Cavs 119-106
If 0-3, chance of victory 40%, Cavs 111-109

Game 5, If 3-1, chance of victory 56%, Cavs 120-111
If 2-2, chance of victory 52%, Cavs 113-107
If 1-3, chance of victory 48%, Cavs 112-108

Game 6, If 3-2 chance of victory 49%, Cavs 119-116
If 2-3 chance of victory 43%, Cavs 112-109

Game 7, 53% chance of victory 119-114
I couldn't help but multiply this out for all possible series outcomes:

Cavs 4-0 7.88%
Magic 4-0 8.06%

Cavs 4-1 14.05%
Magic 4-1 12.87%

Cavs 4-2 14.13%
Magic 4-2 16.13%

Cavs 4-3 14.4%
Magic 4-3 12.77%

Cavs series victory: 50.46%
Magic series victory 49.83%

This predicts a long series, with the Cavs most likely winning in the end.

I don't know if I agree with my own predictions!
 
Boston 63-19:

Johnson
Ainge
Parrish
McHale
Bird

Cleveland 36-46:

Hubbard (Canton McKinley)
Hinson
Mark “The Hammer” West
Bagley
World

Best of 5:

Game 1: 126-123 Boston, free throws BOS 35/39, Cavs 17/27
Game 2: 108-106 Boston, free throws BOS 18/21, Cavs 16/21

(city fired up with two close losses to the mighty Celtics, Brew with hundreds of others meets the team at Hopkins)

Game 3: 105-98 Cleveland, no Bird, as the game is ending I’m chanting with everyone else “WE WANT BIRD! WE WANT BIRD!”.

Bird gives an interview, clearly pissed, says “They don’t want me. They don’t want any part of me.”

Game 4: 117-115 Boston, series over. Hard fought game. Cavs with 40 fouls; Hinson, Shelton and Poquette foul out; World, Hubbard, West and Jones each with 5 fouls. The foul calls all series were definitely slanted for the Celtics; a few late game calls were laughable.

I‘m right by the large player exit in the corner of the Coliseum. McHale waves his hands and laughs at the crowd but has to duck and run as Cavalier fans throw all kinds of shit at him. I sit there pissed at the bad foul calls for fifteen minutes after the game ends. Fucking Celtics.

Plain Dealer headline next day says it all: “Cavs go down fighting, 117-115”.

Never was more proud to be a Cavalier fan. We were completely overmatched but gave those bastards a fight. A better Cavaliers team ended Bird’s career in the same building in another hard fought series. That’s what’s necessary.

We‘re playing the Orlando Magic. Not exactly the 1985 Prime Celtics. Our boys need to bring it. They need to “throw the first punch” and physically battle. Get the crowd going. Don’t be afraid to foul. They learned last year what needs to be done, it’s time to do it.
So the 36-win Cavs lost 3-1 to the 63-win Celtics but the cumulative score was 449 to 449? Wow! What an effort.

That gives me hope that the same thing could happen this year, especially since the Celtics did not win 27 more games than we did and they don't have Larry Bird.

But we need to put Orlando away first.
 
So the 36-win Cavs lost 3-1 to the 63-win Celtics but the cumulative score was 449 to 449? Wow! What an effort.

That gives me hope that the same thing could happen this year, especially since the Celtics did not win 27 more games than we did and they don't have Larry Bird.

But we need to put Orlando away first.

That season’s Cavaliers team started 2-19. Went 34-27 to clinch the first post Stepien playoff series. Beat the Nets at home in a massive come from behind win 114-100 with World scoring 35 and Roy Hinson blocking six shots.

You remember CPJ going right at Joel Embiid in OT for a key bucket? That’s the attitude we need starting Saturday.
 

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