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2023 Browns Training Camp Thread: Going to the Hall of Fame

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The decision on playing a guy with 3 concussions of note in a very meaningless game isn't getting enough coverage?

Who's to say he doesn't get #4 in the opener, I know. There's certain players you just protect at all costs. Deshaun arguably should play 1-2 series.

Chubb, Ward, Garrett should never suit up in a pre-season game at this juncture of their career. If they are to unfortunately get hurt, do it in the real games.

My counter argument would be that Ward didn’t play at all in last year’s preseason, I believe for the first time, and had the worst season of his career with everything looking off from the jump.

There’s no guarantee those two things are related, but they could be.
 
Think there is way too much pessimism over Ward. As long as he's given the proper amount of time to rest, he should be fine.

Green was a fairly easy cut. He's a big zone corner who doesn't look comfortable in man. Makes sense to try someone else there.
 
My counter argument would be that Ward didn’t play at all in last year’s preseason, I believe for the first time, and had the worst season of his career with everything looking off from the jump.

There’s no guarantee those two things are related, but they could be.

Correcting myself here. Ward did not play in the preseason in 2022 or 2021 so last year wasn't the first time.
 
Think there is way too much pessimism over Ward. As long as he's given the proper amount of time to rest, he should be fine.

Green was a fairly easy cut. He's a big zone corner who doesn't look comfortable in man. Makes sense to try someone else there.
Idk man I think there is definitely an aggregate element to it

Not a brain scientist or a rocket surgeon, but someone with 5 concussions in 5 years and someone with 1 concussion in 5 years probably aren’t the same baseline even if neither has suffered one in months. Repeated head trauma is pretty scary stuff
 
Think there is way too much pessimism over Ward. As long as he's given the proper amount of time to rest, he should be fine.

Green was a fairly easy cut. He's a big zone corner who doesn't look comfortable in man. Makes sense to try someone else there.
For real. You’d think Ward just got shot or something. Just let the process happen and he’ll dominate when he can play.
 
For real. You’d think Ward just got shot or something. Just let the process happen and he’ll dominate when he can play.
I am much less worried about Brian Robinson’s health than Ward’s

Dude literally missed a month from his last concussion. I think you guys are way underestimating it
 
Basically saying “Jesus Christ you people need to relax.”


Dude had the entire media for player interviews today. Frothing at the mouth.
The guy has scored on 90% of all his kicks inside 50 yards over his significant career sample size. That has me pretty relaxed. He's just what the doctor ordered, and he doesn't have to be perfect. 9 out of every 10 tries is good enough for me, I just hope he hits the important ones and his misses don't determine outcomes.
 
Browns fan translation: "I'm gonna miss some, but please don't kill me."
Hopkins with Washington vs. Cleveland 10/2/16 was 4-4 XP and 1-1 FG, a 49 yarder.

Washington at Cleveland 9/27/20. Misses one of three XP wide right, no FGA. Cody Parker for CLE was 4 for 4 in FGA in the Brown's 34-20 win.

With LA Chargers vs Cleveland 10/10/21 injured and did not play in the Charger's "comeback" win 47-45.

With Chargers at Cleveland 10/09/22 injured and did not play.

6-7 XPM and 1-1 FG against the Browns. 0 FGA, 2 for 3 XP @ CBS..
 
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Hopkins with Washington vs. Cleveland 10/2/16 was 4-4 XP and 1-1 FG, a 49 yarder.

Washington at Cleveland 9/27/20. Misses one of three XP wide right, no FGA. Cody Parker for CLE was 4 for 4 in FGA in the Brown's 34-20 win.

With LA Chargers vs Cleveland 10/10/21 injured and did not play in the Charger's "comeback" win 47-45.

With Chargers at Cleveland 10/09/22 injured and did not play.

6-7 XPM and 1-1 FG in CBS.
Pretty sure that 2016 was at FedEx field
 
Think there is way too much pessimism over Ward. As long as he's given the proper amount of time to rest, he should be fine.

Green was a fairly easy cut. He's a big zone corner who doesn't look comfortable in man. Makes sense to try someone else there.

Agreed - he really struggled and was targeted often in the preseason games. I liked him as a gunner, but Bubba brought in a lot of his guys.
 

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