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-Akronite- said:
I don't think anyone forgets these losses and Day has gotten plenty of credit for winning our favored games and not laying any eggs against inferior opponents.

But winning a championship and having a winning record against Michigan earns you leeway. That's just how it works for many Ohio State fans and I don't see anything wrong with wanting more from our current situation. After 3 shots against Michigan and a chance to beat Georgia, Day has come up empty. I'd like to believe that he can overcome these obstacles if given more chances (Urban never even got close to another title after 2015), but there's no evidence for me to think he's the guy at this point.

Do I think it's the best thing for next season that he be fired? Probably not. But the coaching search should be under way, if not formally. I definitely understand the stance to stand pat right now, I didn't want to overreact the previous two seasons, but how many losses in a row to Michigan should we accept? If he blows it next year but we win a playoff game, do people actually care? The expanded playoff is just a money making venture and I'm confident that a lot of guys could punch tickets at Ohio State. What I care about is the rivalry.
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I guess that is the question we need to ask ourselves - I am fine with losing to Michigan if it means having a chance to win a championship. With the 12 team format, our team would've been in the playoffs the last 10 years, despite losing to the random Iowas, Purdues, and now Michigan.
 
I do not give a shit about the ScUM rivalry after this past weekend. I would love to beat them, but THE GAME is not as important anymore moving forward, and everyone knows that. I have not lived in Ohio for 20 years. I care about making the playoffs and championships moving forward... Last weekend, that rivalry ended... People can absolutely have a different opinion of mine, and that is fine. I graduated from OSU as well... I live in NYC, and there are tons of ScUM fans here. I don't give a shit. We have teams like USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington in the Big Ten now, and I am super pumped for these new games. The games will be awesome.


College football has forever changed with the new playoff system, NIL, all the money, transfer portal, etc., and so has my mind over the entire season being about one game. It is absurd. Fight me, lol... Ryan Day gives the Buckeyes the best opportunity to win the championship, and he should have no problem getting the Bucks into the playoffs, and the UGA game tells me all I need to know: he is my guy. No one mentioned is giving the Buckeyes the superior recruiting edge over Day and what he has established. Mike Vrabel is not coming in here and getting top 1 or 2 recruiting classes off the rip. OSU would be terrible with him for a season or two I bet.
I am not willing to risk taking a step back in recruiting over one game a season anymore.
 
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As a Buckeye fan since the 60's I won't say The Game doesn't matter anymore because it absolutely does. But going forward the objectives of every season will be the same as those for the Browns: 1. Make the playoffs, and 2. Win the championship. If those objectives are met I won't worry about whether we beat Xichigan or not.
 
bushwick_bill said:
I do not give a shit about the ScUM rivalry after this past weekend. I would love to beat them, but THE GAME is not as important anymore moving forward, and everyone knows that. I have not lived in Ohio for 20 years. I care about making the playoffs and championships moving forward... Last weekend, that rivalry ended... People can absolutely have a different opinion of mine, and that is fine. I graduated from OSU as well... I live in NYC, and there are tons of ScUM fans here. I don't give a shit. We have teams like USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington in the Big Ten now, and I am super pumped for these new games. The games will be awesome.


College football has forever changed with the new playoff system, NIL, all the money, transfer portal, etc., and so has my mind over the entire season being about one game. It is absurd. Fight me, lol... Ryan Day gives the Buckeyes the best opportunity to win the championship, and he should have no problem getting the Bucks into the playoffs, and the UGA game tells me all I need to know: he is my guy. No one mentioned is giving the Buckeyes the superior recruiting edge over Day and what he has established. Mike Vrabel is not coming in here and getting top 1 or 2 recruiting classes off the rip. OSU would be terrible with him for a season or two I bet.
I am not willing to risk taking a step back in recruiting over one game a season anymore.
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I think this is a measured take, but I disagree on two fronts (which is fine):

1) Dismissing the rivalry. A lot of tradition has been tossed out the window in the last few decades but this is something that is supposed to last. I welcome new rivals but Michigan should always be the end of our regular season and nothing is going to give a game against Washington or a playoff game against whoever the same juice.

Maybe I'm clinging onto a version of the sport that doesn't exist anymore and should spend less time caring. To me, rivalries are a massive part of what makes college football special. Without that stuff it's just minor league NFL.

Ryan Day gives the Buckeyes the best opportunity to win the championship
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2) Eh. I would agree that we have a better shot of winning with him in the short term than his would be replacement, I just don't know that he's the guy. He managed to beat Clemson who are now on a downswing and he got close against Georgia but close only counts in Horseshoes... oh wait. I'm just not convinced by him. I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt but in a rivarly where we have had the upper hand for two decades he has wasted a head start in talent. Born on third base yada yada. Winning a national championship is the real goal, sure, but if you can't beat Michigan why should I believe he can beat better programs that actually win bowl games?

Natty>Michigan win>Bowl/Playoff win>B1G championship*>Playoff berth

If Day/Ohio State manages to win a national title without beating Michigan I would be surprised and, in a way, it would be the true death of what this rivalry was.

*Feels odd to live in a world where the major conferences are both more substantial and less meaningful.
 
-Akronite- said:
I think this is a measured take, but I disagree on two fronts (which is fine):

1) Dismissing the rivalry. A lot of tradition has been tossed out the window in the last few decades but this is something that is supposed to last. I welcome new rivals but Michigan should always be the end of our regular season and nothing is going to give a game against Washington or a playoff game against whoever the same juice.

Maybe I'm clinging onto a version of the sport that doesn't exist anymore and should spend less time caring. To me, rivalries are a massive part of what makes college football special. Without that stuff it's just minor league NFL.



2) Eh. I would agree that we have a better shot of winning with him in the short term than his would be replacement, I just don't know that he's the guy. He managed to beat Clemson who are now on a downswing and he got close against Georgia but close only counts in Horseshoes... oh wait. I'm just not convinced by him. I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt but in a rivarly where we have had the upper hand for two decades he has wasted a head start in talent. Born on third base yada yada. Winning a national championship is the real goal, sure, but if you can't beat Michigan why should I believe he can beat better programs that actually win bowl games?

Natty>Michigan win>Bowl/Playoff win>B1G championship*>Playoff berth

If Day/Ohio State manages to win a national title without beating Michigan I would be surprised and, in a way, it would be the true death of what this rivalry was.

*Feels odd to live in a world where the major conferences are both more substantial and less meaningful.
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I agree and somewhat disagree. While the rivalry may change, or the significance may change, the rivalry won't ever go away or become meaningless. It will over time, in my view, become more like the Browns-Steelers rivalry. Still the most important rivalry games of the season no matter which team wins any number in a row, but it won't define a season anymore.
 
-Akronite- said:
If Day/Ohio State manages to win a national title without beating Michigan I would be surprised and, in a way, it would be the true death of what this rivalry was.

*Feels odd to live in a world where the major conferences are both more substantial and less meaningful.
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It did almost happen last year. I believe if that field was made by Ruggles, OSU would have won the title. I am a Ryan Day supporter, just like with Stef. Day is young, smart, and very respectable, and this is early in his career. I want to see what he can do with this new format before any drastic changes happen. I believe he will continue to be highly successful with the new format. And for now, we don't have to worry about recruiting; the next two classes are stacked... Day will be back next season my mind can definitely be changed if OSU misses out on the playoffs next season. They will have to beat either Oregon on the road or ScUM at home to get in on top of being at Pedo State...
 
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BEST CHANCES TO MAKE PLAYOFFS
Scum 93%
Oregon 70%
FSU 70%
UGA 56%
Texas 48%
Alabama 28%
Washington 26%
OSU 9%
 
daddywags said:
Yes, because I could see Texas jumping us with a conference championship.
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Yeah. I think we need all 4 of those games to break our way to get in.

Barring some sort of crazy outcome like a 30 point blowout loss from Georgia or Washington.

Or Texas winning 6-3 or something stupid.
 
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Yeah. I think we need all 4 of those games to break our way to get in.

Barring some sort of crazy outcome like a 30 point blowout loss from Georgia or Washington.

Or Texas winning 6-3 or something stupid.
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On a related note, we should be rooting for Michigan this weekend, too.

It could be the difference between us getting in or a Georgia/Washington getting in after being blown out.
 
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