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#25: ATH, Jabrill Peppers

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Mr. Orange said:
Last thing I want to say and I'm dropping the mic on the Peppers thread.

This guy @Soda chased me into the David Njoku thread, where I was making a positive comment on David, insulted me, name called, began to shill, and then said that I am the one with the Peppers obsession. Again, this all happened in the David Njoku thread.

And now I see other posters saying the exact things I said about Peppers (poor year 1, good against run/bad against pass, poor PFF ratings) but aren't getting stalked by Soda.
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I don’t know man, it seemed like you would have to make little comments about Peppers EVERYWHERE. Also didn’t help your case when you’d make up shit (like he’s entitled because every Michigan player is apparently entitled).
 
BMAN said:
I don’t know man, it seemed like you would have to make little comments about Peppers EVERYWHERE. Also didn’t help your case when you’d make up shit (like he’s entitled because every Michigan player is apparently entitled).
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Maybe I was thinking too much of Braylon Edwards. Or even recent entitled first rounders like Johnny, Justin, and Corey who had troubling year ones. You can see why the question would be asked. Still, to latch onto a one-off comment and ignore hard data and facts is absurd.

Even the PD has a story today on the playing time Kindred got and just like me they found it interesting. Does the PD "have it out for" him as well, or are they just reporting?

Through two games, Kindred has logged more defensive snaps than Peppers. This is more a point of interest than anything significant.

Peppers has played 47 percent of the defensive snaps this season. Kindred has played 69 percent.

The split was closer in New Orleans. Peppers was at 55 percent while Kindred was at 62 percent, a difference of five defensive snaps.

The Browns will likely play the matchup game with their two strong safeties. It should benefit both.
 
A guy like Peppers is a perfect example of how much coaching actually matters.

Last year he was clearly playing out of position and being asked to perform a role his skill set simply wasn't suited for. Consequently, he looked like a guy who didn't even belong in the NFL.

This year he's been put in a spot that highlights his strengths and doesn't really put him in a position to have to play to his weaknesses and he's the No. 7 graded safety in the NFL according to PFF through 2 weeks.

I'm sure Peppers has made some natural progressions as most players do from year 1 to year 2, but really the one big change is how he's being utilized.
 
CBBI said:
A guy like Peppers is a perfect example of how much coaching actually matters.

Last year he was clearly playing out of position and being asked to perform a role his skill set simply wasn't suited for. Consequently, he looked like a guy who didn't even belong in the NFL.

This year he's been put in a spot that highlights his strengths and doesn't really put him in a position to have to play to his weaknesses and he's the No. 7 graded safety in the NFL according to PFF through 2 weeks.

I'm sure Peppers has made some natural progressions as most players do from year 1 to year 2, but really the one big change is how he's being utilized.
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What also matters is that he’s got the personality of a dead moth.
 
CBBI said:
A guy like Peppers is a perfect example of how much coaching actually matters.

Last year he was clearly playing out of position and being asked to perform a role his skill set simply wasn't suited for. Consequently, he looked like a guy who didn't even belong in the NFL.

This year he's been put in a spot that highlights his strengths and doesn't really put him in a position to have to play to his weaknesses and he's the No. 7 graded safety in the NFL according to PFF through 2 weeks.

I'm sure Peppers has made some natural progressions as most players do from year 1 to year 2, but really the one big change is how he's being utilized.
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Hopefully next year we end up with an actual coaching staff.
 
CBBI said:
Peppers is what he is. Good and bad.

He's good against the run when he plays in the box. He's above average against short/intermediate passes when he plays in the box. He's below average against the run when he plays deep safety. He's bad against the pass when he plays deep safety.
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He was awful at free safety.

He has been underwhelming returning kicks

He been playing near pro bowl level at strong safety.

Seems obvious to me, but I am not Hue Jackson. Take him off special teams, give him most of the strong safety snaps, never let him play free safety ever again.

But hey, what do I know?
 
Early to say he's Pro Bowl level, but he's definitely been great so far this season, especially week 2. He's been improving week to week which is a very good sign. Exciting to see.
 
Los216 said:
PFF has him rated as the 7th best SS through the first 2 games. He's been solid this year so far.
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While it is great he is grading better, I wonder how many of the SS are full time vs. platoon players like Jabrill?
 
Mr. Orange said:
While it is great he is grading better, I wonder how many of the SS are full time vs. platoon players like Jabrill?
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Don't see how that has any impact on how Peppers is playing but okay.
 
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