#52 DeShone Kizer

[dark2332]

Unfortunately sarcastic one liners lack detail.

Look, I see where you are coming from but throwing a guy out there who isn't ready yet isn't always the best long-term strategy to develop talent. If it were, your 8th grade teacher would have thrown you right into calculus and skipped algebra. I trust Hue if he rolls with someone else to start the year.

I understand that, and he shouldn't be set up to fail. I agree with you. Frankly, he shouldn't start if Hue deems that he isn't far enough along to experience some degree of success.

That said, let's say he's mastered a portion of the playbook and Hue feels comfortable taking burden off his young quarterback and works within the confines of Kizer's understanding and talents. In said circumstance, I trust Hue Jackson's judgement.

I also don't think it's fair to say that he shouldn't start simply because he's a rookie and is going to make a few mistakes--as the fifth throw analogy seems to indicate.

Osweiler has made a career of making mistakes, and Cody Kessler is also a young quarterback who is learning the game. These guys aren't beacons of good quarterback play themselves. The scenario for these two is potentially just as bad as you described for the rookie.

I acknowledge your concern of crippling the kid because "too much, too fast." However, I have to believe that if Kizer wins the job, it's because Hue believes he can guide him to successful quarterback play.

 

[Randolphkeys]

Hey, Hue has a lot of success with young QBs on his resume and that's why Cleveland was rightly thrilled he took this job. I also believe Hue is the type of coach who will call the right plays to put Kizer in a position to succeed when he does start.

That said, I was right here for the Manziel debacle. Whoever is the starting QB should be the right play for that week, don't start some guy who isn't ready because you want to be a AAAA minor league team trying to beat a major league club. My money is on a shit-show of veterans until the bye week and then Kizer plays the second half of the season. If Kizer surprises and earns his week one start, good for him and I'll support him... But for the love of God don't gift the draft pick who isn't ready a starting job. It just cripples the rest of the offense and these young skill position players.

 

[Surge]

Hey, Hue has a lot of success with young QBs on his resume and that's why Cleveland was rightly thrilled he took this job. I also believe Hue is the type of coach who will call the right plays to put Kizer in a position to succeed when he does start.

That said, I was right here for the Manziel debacle. Whoever is the starting QB should be the right play for that week, don't start some guy who isn't ready because you want to be a AAAA minor league team trying to beat a major league club. My money is on a shit-show of veterans until the bye week and then Kizer plays the second half of the season. If Kizer surprises and earns his week one start, good for him and I'll support him... But for the love of God don't gift the draft pick who isn't ready a starting job. It just cripples the rest of the offense and these young skill position players.

With the bye being week 8 it sets up a very healthy audition for Kessler, imo.

Give Kessler the first 8 weeks, then we'll see what he's all about. When we are 3-5 after that, go into the bye preparing Kizer (if hes earns the chance) for week 10.

I am not including Assweiler because he should be the number 3, or cut. Hes 20 kinds of terrible.

 

[Sebastian]

It is my foremost hope that Kizer is the man.

I would love to use the Browns' top five pick on an every down RB of glory.

 

[The Oi]

Kizer starts week 1.

 

[Triplethreat]

Kizer starts week 1.

I think he does as well.

When I watch his throwing motion/release I get giddy with sexual excitement. I don't see either of the two other QB's beating him in a straight up competition.

 

[Pick6]

We get a chance to see what they look like in some semi-live action starting tonight! I assume QB's cant be touched.

 

[The Oi]

I assume QB's cant be touched.

@Triplethreat will be awfully disappointed then.

 

[SixPACK]

 

[Ob1]

Kizer has only completed 52% of his passes so far. Let's pump the breaks a little bit. He's got all the talent in the world, but I think he needs to be refined a bit more before we throw him into the fire. After the Bye week sounds perfect.

 

[CBBI]

I'd start Kizer from Day 1.

It's not like the difference between he and Kessler/Osweiler is that significant. They'll likely win around 4-5 games no matter who is out there.

Personally, I'm not really concerned with potentially "ruining" Kizer by playing him too early because if things go really poorly this year and the Browns end up with a top 3 pick, they'll be drafting a QB more highly regarded than Kizer anyway.

 

[Triplethreat]

Kizer has only completed 52% of his passes so far. Let's pump the breaks a little bit. He's got all the talent in the world, but I think he needs to be refined a bit more before we throw him into the fire. After the Bye week sounds perfect.

In camp so far?

 

[Ob1]

In camp so far?

Yeah. I think I saw some people say he was hurt by drops, but i'm sure so were the other 2 QBs

 

[Triplethreat]

DeShone Kizer moves closer to being named starter for preseason opener: Browns quarterback competition recap

By Mary Kay Cabot, cleveland.com

BEREA, Ohio -- DeShone Kizer has won the first week of training camp, and has moved closer to being named the starter for the preseason opener.

On Thursday, he dazzled the training camp crowd with a 28-yard third-down pass to James Wright down the left sideline in his two-minute drill, and took another big step toward getting the nod next Thursday against the Saints.

The perfectly placed ball, with Najee Murray in tight coverage, moved the offense to the 15, and set up a would-be field goal.

"Those are the plays that quarterbacks have to make, and he made it,'' Hue Jackson said after practice. "He made some others. But again, I've seen some other guys make some plays. I mean every ball is not a long ball ... we'll keep working at it.''

The gamewinning three-pointer followed stalled two-minute drills by Cody Kessler and Brock Osweiler, who both threw picks in their two-minute periods on Wednesday. With the two-minute drill being a quarterback's showcase, Kessler and Osweiler have not helped themselves this week.

Heading into the Orange and Brown scrimmage on Friday at FirstEnergy Stadium, Kizer not only won the day Thursday, but has won the first seven days of training camp.

In fact, it's not even close. Now, all he has to do is more of the same in the scrimmage to earn the nod against the Saints.

"Obviously after we have the scrimmage and go through that process (I'll decide),'' said Jackson. "Next week, there's really two days of practice before we play.''

Jackson stressed however, that the order could flip again depending on how things go. But if all goes as expected, it will be soon be Kizer's job to lose.

In fact, it's not even close. Now, all he has to do is more of the same in the scrimmage to earn the nod against the Saints.

"Obviously after we have the scrimmage and go through that process (I'll decide),'' said Jackson. "Next week, there's really two days of practice before we play.''

Jackson stressed however, that the order could flip again depending on how things go. But if all goes as expected, it will be soon be Kizer's job to lose.

Browns' quarterbacks workout on Day 7 of training camp
"I will say to all of you -- me making a decision who may start the game may not be who's the starter for the season, too," Jackson said. "I mean I still have to go through the process. Next week, the guy that starts might not still be the starter in my mind unless that's where I am.

"I told you guys I'm not going to rush. ... It's too important of a decision to get right for our football team. So I love the pressure you guys put on but I'm not succumbing to it."

Kizer will have a chance to look especially good in the scrimmage because the first team offense will battle the second-team defense, and vice versa. Kizer has been splitting the starting reps with Kessler, but still going third in the rotation behind Kessler and Osweiler, who's working with the twos.

But Jackson will still consider Osweiler to start the opener if he's not sure Kizer is ready.

"He's the one guy that we all know standing here that has played and has played winning football in the National Football League," said Jackson. "He's learning our system and how we communicate and do it. I just need to keep seeing more of those other guys. I know what he is, and I'm glad he's here. He's done a good job thus far."

In addition to four sacks, Kessler had a pass batted down at the line by Trevon Coley. But Jackson defended his second-year QB.

"I don't think that's a fair assessment today,'' he said. "Because sometimes the sacks don't have anything to do with the quarterback. There were three missed assignments in protection, so I know that for a fact."

So what does Kessler have to show him in the scrimmage?

"All four of them have to show me something tomorrow - not just him,'' said Jackson. "They all need to go out and play well. Our offensive line needs to play well. Our offense as a unit has to play well. Our defense needs to play well. Our special teams have to play well. We need to play well as a team.

"It's under the lights, in front of our fans. It's an opportunity to play a tune-up game before we play a real game next Thursday, so it will be fun to see the guys play."

"I will say to all of you -- me making a decision who may start the game may not be who's the starter for the season, too," Jackson said. "I mean I still have to go through the process. Next week, the guy that starts might not still be the starter in my mind unless that's where I am.

"I told you guys I'm not going to rush. ... It's too important of a decision to get right for our football team. So I love the pressure you guys put on but I'm not succumbing to it."

Kizer will have a chance to look especially good in the scrimmage because the first team offense will battle the second-team defense, and vice versa. Kizer has been splitting the starting reps with Kessler, but still going third in the rotation behind Kessler and Osweiler, who's working with the twos.

But Jackson will still consider Osweiler to start the opener if he's not sure Kizer is ready.

"He's the one guy that we all know standing here that has played and has played winning football in the National Football League," said Jackson. "He's learning our system and how we communicate and do it. I just need to keep seeing more of those other guys. I know what he is, and I'm glad he's here. He's done a good job thus far."

In addition to four sacks, Kessler had a pass batted down at the line by Trevon Coley. But Jackson defended his second-year QB.

"I don't think that's a fair assessment today,'' he said. "Because sometimes the sacks don't have anything to do with the quarterback. There were three missed assignments in protection, so I know that for a fact."

So what does Kessler have to show him in the scrimmage?

"All four of them have to show me something tomorrow - not just him,'' said Jackson. "They all need to go out and play well. Our offensive line needs to play well. Our offense as a unit has to play well. Our defense needs to play well. Our special teams have to play well. We need to play well as a team.

"It's under the lights, in front of our fans. It's an opportunity to play a tune-up game before we play a real game next Thursday, so it will be fun to see the guys play."

 

[Kbiz]

Hey, Hue has a lot of success with young QBs on his resume and that's why Cleveland was rightly thrilled he took this job. I also believe Hue is the type of coach who will call the right plays to put Kizer in a position to succeed when he does start.

That said, I was right here for the Manziel debacle. Whoever is the starting QB should be the right play for that week, don't start some guy who isn't ready because you want to be a AAAA minor league team trying to beat a major league club. My money is on a shit-show of veterans until the bye week and then Kizer plays the second half of the season. If Kizer surprises and earns his week one start, good for him and I'll support him... But for the love of God don't gift the draft pick who isn't ready a starting job. It just cripples the rest of the offense and these young skill position players.

I think you're suffering a bit too much from the Manziel hangover. It's tough to compare A to B solely based on the fact their both rookies. QB A has proven himself to be a cocky drug addict that never took the job seriously and was practically forced to start to sell tickets and QB B has yet to take a single snap under center, has reportedly done "all the right things" and looks better than the rest of the QB's on the roster.

Rookies are capable of success in today's NFL. The last two years have proven that.