#52 DeShone Kizer

[Los216]

Kizer is young. He is very tough and pretty durable. I think he can be accurate when he properly sets his feet and steps into his target. The problem he has seeing the field is the big question because some quarterbacks never figure that part out.

Just my opinion but he lack touch on a lot of his throws. In particular that deep crossing route across the middle that he has hit Coleman on a few times is always a low duck. Some of his throws within 5 yards of the LOS are thrown too aggressively. Not enough touch on them.

 

[CBBI]

Kizer is young. He is very tough and pretty durable. I think he can be accurate when he properly sets his feet and steps into his target. The problem he has seeing the field is the big question because some quarterbacks never figure that part out.

I think Kizer’s natural accuracy - at least right now - just isn’t good enough to be a starter in the NFL.

Reading coverages, speeding up your processing ability and getting comfortable with going through progressions under duress is something I think could improve with experience, but like you said that often doesn’t happen either.

I’m not getting rid of him because he has enough tools to justify an attempt to continue to develop his skill set.

 

[shoes22]

I think Kizer’s natural accuracy - at least right now - just isn’t good enough to be a starter in the NFL.

There’s no question. It’s a shame at how much Gordon has to strain to catch some of these Kizer passes, and the only reason he even does as much as he does is because he’s so damn athletic.

 

[Lee]

I think most of you are being a little harsh on the kid. He’s 21 years old. Played a fantastic game up until that last play. Sure it’s easy to say that he should’ve taken a sack or threw the ball away but the kid was trying to win a game! I know it’s doesnt matter but dang it if Njoku catches that 3rd down pass it’s game over. If Gordon doesn’t get held on that last play maybe he completes the pass to him. If Hue calls a running play on 3rd and 1 1/2 we might be praising Kizer for a win. If he has 1 more second to get that last throw out it’s game over.

I really think Kizer has improved in a lot of areas; accuracy yesterday was decent for the most part and he threw 3 redzone Tds. I think giving up on him at this point is a mistake. At such a young age its crazy to think that he won’t keep improving. Is he the FQB? Idk but in my opinion he’s flashed enough that if he improves his accuracy, get through his reads quicker and cuts down on the mistakes he could be a FQB. First game after he and Hue set a goal of 65% completion he hits on 71%. I think Kizer having a vet to lean on this year would’ve tremendously helping his development.

I have said i want a Brees/Rivers situation. Keep Kizer but draft a QB #1.

I rather over draft the position than continue to fail at QB.

 

[buzzdog]

I want to overkill the QB position depth and I assume that's what Dorsey will do.

1) Sign a competent veteran. Preferably someone long enough in the tooth that he'd be willing to serve as a bridge and mentor but with enough juice to be a starter. I don't know Fitzpatrick's situation but someone like him is what I have in mind. we clearly should have kept McCown but the whole Brock Osweiler thing screwed that up.

2) Draft the best college QB with our number one. My preference is 1) Rosen, 1a) Mayfield, 2) Darnold, 2a) Jackson. I'm kind of set on Rozen but I could be talked into Baker Mayfield if Dorsey feels strongly about him. I could consider Sam Darnold or Lamar Jackson if Dorsey had strong reasons for one of those guys. but darnold scares me and I think he'd be like having a slightly better version of Kizer. Jackson I just don't know much about.

3) Keep developing Kizer. Let him compete but assume he ends up being the #3 if he sucks, the #2 if he does well, with a small chance to become the #1 if the light turns on bright for him. It would have to be extremely obvious for the last possibility.

Make winning a priority. Start the QB that gives us the best chance to win every week. The bridge QB would likely start the season with the #1 draft pick stepping in when ready. Kizer in the wings in case of injury unless he beats out the bridge by a lot. Hopefully the draft pick will be the clear superior option by early in the season.

 

[rastamon87]

I am relatively new to football... Do you guys think that the best case ceiling for Kizer is Eli Manning career (i.e. pretty inconsistent...when he's good he's good, really bad when bad, that is what Ive heard about him)?

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[natedagg]

I am relatively new to football... Do you guys think that the best case ceiling for Kizer is Eli Manning career (i.e. pretty inconsistent...when he's good he's good, really bad when bad, that is what Ive heard about him)?

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No. He is historically bad. His ceiling is a flight attendant and his floor is a baggage claim security clerk.

 

[FiveThous]

No. He is historically bad. His ceiling is a flight attendant and his floor is a baggage claim security clerk.

Eli was saved by two monster defenses, otherwise he's the most overrated QB in the last decade outside of Flacco.

 

[natedagg]

Eli was saved by two monster defenses, otherwise he's the most overrated QB in the last decade outside of Flacco.

If Kizer ever leads a team to a championship, I will chop off my penis, eat it, shit it out, dehydrate the turd, and reattach the turd as my penis.

 

[Maximus]

If Kizer ever leads a team to a championship, I will chop off my penis, eat it, shit it out, dehydrate the turd, and reattach the turd as my penis.

 

[Binkster]

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[BlessEm]

Seems accurate.

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[Hurl Bruce]

Watching Trubisky right now...what's the big difference between he and Kizer? That's not to say that Kizer is bad. I guess it's to laugh at the Bears.

 

[Ohio]

Watching Trubisky right now...what's the big difference between he and Kizer? That's not to say that Kizer is bad. I guess it's to laugh at the Bears.

There's not a big difference. They both aren't good. It's why this entire board was relieved when we took Garrett and why pretty much everyone was laughing at Chicago on draft day.

 

[CBBI]

Trubisky suffers from some of the same issues as Kizer. Above all else, his lack of experience is causing processing speed and coverage reading issues.

This *should* improve over time, just like it should for Kizer, but it’s not there yet.

To my untrained eye though, Mitch appears to be much more naturally accurate.