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Re: Dont care if these are fair. My thread where i will be throwing trade ideas aroun

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...831~556~1726~125&teams=23~23~12~5~5&te=&cash=

Mo/ Boobie/
Delonte/ Salmons
Bron/Pavs
Ben/AV
Z/Camby

i will update with more trades later

Heath? Is that you Heath? Come on man I love trades.

*side not* Heath are you username: hotlantadude, or Hawksfan on insidehoops? Because if you are man I love those trades to. That forum surprisingly enough is brought up in quality by those trades. :eek:
 
Re: Dont care if these are fair. My thread where i will be throwing trade ideas aroun

Heath? Is that you Heath? Come on man I love trades.

*side not* Heath are you username: hotlantadude, or Hawksfan on insidehoops? Because if you are man I love those trades to. That forum surprisingly enough is brought up in quality by those trades. :eek:

I have no proof that liquidfire is Heath. In fact, I'm fairly certain he isn't. What I have noticed is a dramatic increase in good old fashioned DUMB around here. Yes, I said it.

Plenty of new posters are averaging over 10 posts a day. First off, I'm glad we are getting new blood in the forum. Plenty of new posters have impressed me.

Here's the deal, and I'm going to be blunt and use very small words so that everyone's brains can understand my meaning: some of the new posters are writing absolute drivel, and writing it often. People have been nice and said "step up your game."

I'm giving everyone a choice: step it up, don't start a new thread unless it is worth 4,000 people reading, or I will show you exactly what I think of your topics.

I have not conferred with any other mods in my decision, but I'm doing it. DON'T BE A HEATH, or you will find your posts in the thread of public shame.

Have a nice day.
 
^ Preach Brother Keys, preach. I love it.
 
Re: Dont care if these are fair. My thread where i will be throwing trade ideas aroun

I have no proof that liquidfire is Heath. In fact, I'm fairly certain he isn't. What I have noticed is a dramatic increase in good old fashioned DUMB around here. Yes, I said it.

Plenty of new posters are averaging over 10 posts a day. First off, I'm glad we are getting new blood in the forum. Plenty of new posters have impressed me.

Here's the deal, and I'm going to be blunt and use very small words so that everyone's brains can understand my meaning: some of the new posters are writing absolute drivel, and writing it often. People have been nice and said "step up your game."

I'm giving everyone a choice: step it up, don't start a new thread unless it is worth 4,000 people reading, or I will show you exactly what I think of your topics.

I have not conferred with any other mods in my decision, but I'm doing it. DON'T BE A HEATH, or you will find your posts in the thread of public shame.

Have a nice day.

I could hug you.

This is why RCF is the best forum around.
 
Yeah this liquidfire person is very intriguing...He makes some very questionable threads/trades and is very schizophrenic...One minute he hates somebody, next minute he's loving them. Very strange....
 
Re: Dont care if these are fair. My thread where i will be throwing trade ideas aroun

I could hug you.

This is why RCF is the best forum around.

Exactly. The one forum I mentioned in my previous post is terribly moderated. People go on there and just type on or two word posts, and it is very frustrating and honestly just makes me mad. I go on there just to get a rise out of the Kobe fans on there. Notice I said Kobe fans and not Lakers fans? Well that is because they are Kobe fans, and can't accept that another player is in the same universe as Kobe when it comes to playing. /rant

Any way RCF is easily the best quality site I have ever posted on, mind you I have only posted on 5 or 6, but still the compliment should be taken that way none the less.
 
Heath is spaming the realGM trade board the last I know of. But I was banned there a month ago so I cant say much as of late I also saw him/her on cavs.com.... till i got banned there....
 
Heath is spaming the realGM trade board the last I know of. But I was banned there a month ago so I cant say much as of late I also saw him/her on cavs.com.... till i got banned there....

Going to be nestalgic if you get banned from here isn't it? :D
 
Re: Dont care if these are fair. My thread where i will be throwing trade ideas aroun

I just don't like his sig because it makes the threads load slower. I mean he might as well have the whole Golden State game as a GIF and use it as his sig, or Avatar. :rolleyes:

Get new internet and a computer then :eek:! His GIF loads and works fine for me! Doesn't slow me down at all.
 
Re: Dont care if these are fair. My thread where i will be throwing trade ideas aroun

I have no proof that liquidfire is Heath. In fact, I'm fairly certain he isn't. What I have noticed is a dramatic increase in good old fashioned DUMB around here. Yes, I said it.

Plenty of new posters are averaging over 10 posts a day. First off, I'm glad we are getting new blood in the forum. Plenty of new posters have impressed me.

Here's the deal, and I'm going to be blunt and use very small words so that everyone's brains can understand my meaning: some of the new posters are writing absolute drivel, and writing it often. People have been nice and said "step up your game."

I'm giving everyone a choice: step it up, don't start a new thread unless it is worth 4,000 people reading, or I will show you exactly what I think of your topics.

I have not conferred with any other mods in my decision, but I'm doing it. DON'T BE A HEATH, or you will find your posts in the thread of public shame.

Have a nice day.

If I could rep you 7,000,000 times for this one post, I would do it. You, my good sir, are the ****ing man.
 
I'll admit off of the top that this trade is kind of dumb (which is why I put it here). However, it is unique, and goes in a different direction than most of the trades we've been evaluating so far.

What if we find ourselves in a scenario where Ferry does not think there are any pieces available that will help us this year. Possibly those pieces don't exist, and possibly they require us to give up too much future talent for the marginal gains we would get this year.

Then we find ourselves in a situation where we would have to let Wally Szczerbiak expire, because he plays a small part on this team now, and we are not able to find any major pieces which could replace his minutes and improve our play. However, just letting Szczerbiak expire hurts our longterm outlook, as we have lost the ability to add a long term piece without trading away starting quality talent.

So what if we look to a deal which does nothing for us in the short term but acquires long term pieces. One thought has been to trade Szczerbiak for a long term (somewhat bad) contract, and then acquire young talent which could be used to string together a deal for a Bosh/Paul/Amare/Wade type next year.

But what if we used the contract to directly obtain a long term piece that could not help us this year? I'm focusing on currently injured superstar Al Jefferson. Jefferson's ACL injury is likely to be fully healed by next year (and in any trade situation, we would be able to have our own doctors closely examine the knee to ensure that it is a classic torn ACL and nothing more major). In today's day and age, ACL injuries are almost always healed without long term damage (much different than even 10 years ago). In fact, oftentimes the replaced ligament is stronger than the original.

The Timberwolves play in a very small market that is unable to attract top talent. While Jefferson is by far their best player, he also represents a large salary in bad economic times. The Timberwolves have several other bad contracts, most notably Brian Cardinal, who they would probably like to dish off too, if only for economic reasons.

One method of setting up a deal would be:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...s=130~2389~3440~831&teams=5~5~16~16&te=&cash=

Where they get Szczerbiak's expiring contract, and Darnell Jackson, plus 2 first round picks from the Cavs. The problem with this trade is that it hurts us a little this year, because we lose Szczerbiak and get nothing playable in return. Likely, Szczerbiak's minutes would be very limited during a playoff run, because, if the Cavs are healthy, and Lebron is playing 45 MPG, he will rarely be used. However, he provides important depth from the 2-4 positions. I don't believe that we can agree to have Szczerbiak bought out in order to reobtain him by this point, because he couldn't sign with us for 30 days, and by then he is past the deadline for all players on playoff rosters to be set (March 1st i believe?).

In order to get around that, we could set up a deal like this, where the Cavs again send two first round picks to Minnesota.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...8~3440~796~831&teams=5~5~5~16~16~16&te=&cash=

In this trade we get Mike Miller back to fill Szczerbiak's spot. By playoff time, Miller should really be the superior player with his ankle fully healed, but even if not, he is very close. The major impetus for this trade from Minnesota's perspective is a cash dump, they get rid of $26.3 million in salary, and only taking back $21.5 million. On top of that, Snow's $7.3 million is covered by insurance, so they save even more money this season. Also, basically all the money they take back is expiring, so they save over $27 million next season. They also don't have to take a risk on their superstar coming back for the beginning of the year, or being unhappy at a team that will still be very poor next year. While it's not a good basketball move for Minnesota, it's a great business move, and they get picks to develop a lot of young talent in the near future.

For the Cavs, this brings another piece who, while not helping us win a championship this year, should be a major factor in ensuring LBJ stays in 2010. Assuming Al Jefferson is back to his old self by mid next season, we could have a starting lineup of Williams/West/LBJ/Jefferson/Ilgauskas, and a long term setup of Williams/West/LBJ/Hickson/Jefferson, who are all under the age of 28 and are all immense talents. Jefferson is exactly what we need as a low post presence, who both compliments Z for the next several years, and is a young talent at the only position we lack one thus far.

I know it's a little crazy, but what do you all think?

~Lyuokdea
 

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