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Masterful gambit by Elon his team to outshine the legacy media industrial complex.
I live over 2 hours away. I usually go to 1 or 2 games a season in Cleveland. Went to Houston to watch a playoff game before I die. Stay in a hotel downtown and hit the casino while there. So with everything it's a $2,000 weekend. I always go the first 2 months of the season. So September and October. I won't take the chance and sit in the cold the rest of the season. I doubt even if it's the playoffs will I sit outside. If we play in Detroit or Indy I will got to there instead just so I don't have to work about weather. I might even consider Nashville/Chicago when/if they get a dome.
I think a dome is the better option to make more money and have more events but is it really worth the extra billion or so. I even think the cost of tickets would increase in the resale market and the initial market. I would probably always go to Cleveland if they had a dome.
My personal vote is dome.
I’m not one for the bitter cold but domed stadiums entirely make up my least favorite stadiums I’ve been to (Texans, cardinals, colts). I’m not sure why the game just feels a lot different without all the natural light and open stadium
I guess I’m in the heavy minority of not wanting a dome and even heavier minority that it’s not bc “muh football weather”. I’ve just always been disappointed with the dome experiences I’ve had
Is there such a thing as bad dome? I mean some dome is better than others but in the end, dome is dome... I can do this dad joke thingSounds like you need good dome then. Because getting dome has always been a good experience to me.
It probably will be. I think dome is just a general term.Why not a retractable roof?
During the first half of the season it can remain open for the lovely Fall weather.
But they can close it once a temp threshold is reached or it is storming.
Or for the sake of maintaining the illusory Cleveland weather advantage, keep the dome open until game time so the field can get nice and cold and snowy.
Why not a retractable roof?
During the first half of the season it can remain open for the lovely Fall weather.
But they can close it once a temp threshold is reached or it is storming.
Or for the sake of maintaining the illusory Cleveland weather advantage, keep the dome open until game time so the field can get nice and cold and snowy.
I'm not sure if there's a complete breakdown, but the closest I could find was this Cleveland Scene article that says only 30% of fans at Browns home games live in Cuyahoga county and of that 30%, 15% live in Cleveland. So that's a pretty significant amount of people that travel a minimum of 20 miles or more to get to a game. For me personally, the distance from my house to the stadium at the current location and the proprosed Brook Park site is virtually identical, with Brook Park being closer by .1 miles.Is there anything published on the demographics of season ticket holders, specifically, where do most of them live?
Like, what is the % of ticket holders who live on east side, west side, south side, Akron?
There is a lot of open space south (beyond downtown), that would get a big hell yeah for the communities between Akron and Cleveland (and I suppose there is a % of Canton peeps too.)
But ultimately, it looks like west side most likely, so point is just for conversational purposes.
Thanks for that Sharpner, appreciate it. That 30% in county is significant, but it also underlines that fans are going to travel, no matter if downtown, east side, west side, south side.I'm not sure if there's a complete breakdown, but the closest I could find was this Cleveland Scene article that says only 30% of fans at Browns home games live in Cuyahoga county and of that 30%, 15% live in Cleveland. So that's a pretty significant amount of people that travel a minimum of 20 miles or more to get to a game. For me personally, the distance from my house to the stadium at the current location and the proprosed Brook Park site is virtually identical, with Brook Park being closer by .1 miles.
I rather do what AZ did and have the field on a track so they can have natural grass. Also, another advantage is the floor underneath the field is concrete so for concerts and other events you are not ruining the grass and not having to be on the grass. I have been to State Farm for several events and its just like a giant convention center with the concrete floor and the grass getting sunlight outside.
I love the idea of the grass tray in Arizona, but for whatever reason players seem to hate the surface there.I rather do what AZ did and have the field on a track so they can have natural grass. Also, another advantage is the floor underneath the field is concrete so for concerts and other events you are not ruining the grass and not having to be on the grass. I have been to State Farm for several events and its just like a giant convention center with the concrete floor and the grass getting sunlight outside.
I love the idea of the grass tray in Arizona, but for whatever reason players seem to hate the surface there.
Because it’s an old city that didn’t take in consideration the car until they put highways right through the city center. Cities are for pedestrians.
I think the big issue with Downtown Cleveland is the river and the high level bridges needed to cross it, plus the lake, which limit growth in three directions. Downtown is quite small in square miles compared to many other cities. There just isn’t a lot of real estate available. The highways don’t really impact pedestrians except for the Innerbelt.