Bynum Signs with Pacers

[JSS2306]

Re: Bynum's Final Tirade

Bynum's behavior is just a symptom. Luol Deng essentially has said the same thing and that is Mike Brown isn't conducive to a disciplined and winning culture. Every player that ends up here that used to play for a great coach says the same sorts of things.

With any luck, he'll be fired.

 

[elcheato]

Re: Bynum's Final Tirade

Can you imagine if the Cavs didn't trade him and he pulled this shit in a game? Hilarious.

 

[abraxas]

Re: Bynum's Final Tirade

I think I understand the peanut butter analogy. If Coach told you to go to the store and get the largest jar offered by Jiff, Skippy, or Goober Grape, it would be easy. If Coach told you to go to the store and get the jar with the best price per ounce that was closer to the nearest jelly than it was the end of the aisle, you might get stuck at the store a little while unless you say "screw it" and grab the first jar you see.

Mike Brown makes defenses that eventually work, but on the offensive side of the floor, he's had a history of over-thinking the plays and making it difficult for players to get in the flow. I'm sure that some people will claim "That's impossible, Brown only runs the simplest plays of offense". The simple, awkward plays are the end result of an overly complicated playbook crossed with under practicing. Players just grab the simplest thing that won't get them yelled at in film.

Mike Brown emulates Pop but does not have the bball IQ or management skills to run the tight ship that Pop does. That's a major problem. It takes a special teacher/coach to make complex systems understandable, and he clearly struggles with that. There is no reason he needs to spend all preseason on defense neglecting and even bragging about how simple their offense is. It's an embarassment. We have young guys that need to learn how to play NBA caliber basketball, who need to learn.

I see Mike Brown as the "good guy" assistant coach who specializes in one thing really well. In that regard he was really a great fit for Lebron after Silas and helped him evolve on defense. But in terms of building a culture/scheme, and getting guys to adapt to his culture/scheme, he's struggled. We might forget because of how good they were during the Lebron years, but there were quite a few dust-ups over the years with him - we basically labeled them knuckleheads (Gooden, Hughes, etc.), but there were other telling moments (Z DNP-CD moment and Devin Brown mysteriously dropped from playoff rotation). Lebron was the leader of that team and kept the culture together, everything revolved around him. As much as we credit Duncan for letting Pop be the leader, Pop does not and would not put up with any of the shenanigans we've witnessed in Brown's tenure.

I think he's gone after this season and Gilbert will bring in the biggest name/ego he can get to captain this ship. Not sure how that will actually work out but that's what I'm expecting.

 

[PIP]

Re: Bynum's Final Tirade

Mike Brown preaches defense and that's about as far as it goes... If he has a player that is willing to be great and take some of that knowledge -- then it works... But his ability to get the best out of his players on his strengths is just not there... The inmates run the asylum with him as well...

Then there is the whole process of having an owner who 10 years in still doesn't have a clue...

 

[oasis05]

Box has Bynum with 8 boards in 7 minutes so far against Boston. Have to watch this game after the cavs..

 

[Kizzle]

Fuck Bynum

 

[I-77 NORTH]

I hope Bynum fades in to Oblivion again...can't stand his bitch ass. What a bitch. He's lucky he didn't come across me in Cleveland....I would've ooooohhhh....I would've just oooooooooooooohhhhhhhh

 

[shoes22]

Guys. It's just as much the Cavs fault that the signing didn't work out as Andrews.

 

[Cashius X]

I hope Bynum fades in to Oblivion again...can't stand his bitch ass. What a bitch. He's lucky he didn't come across me in Cleveland....I would've ooooohhhh....I would've just oooooooooooooohhhhhhhh

You would've died :chuckles:

Great reference though. I'm boutta watch that movie again because of this lol.

 

[Obawan12]

Bynum may be diva, but I certainly don't place all the blame on him. If anything I place the majority of it on Mike Brown for failing to be able to control his players, which is probably the most important skill for an NBA coach to have.

 

[TJ Detweiler]

Bynum may be diva, but I certainly don't place all the blame on him. If anything I place the majority of it on Mike Brown for failing to be able to control his players, which is probably the most important skill for an NBA coach to have.

Bynum acted incredibly unprofessional. Brown obviously has to do with his anger whether it is how he was used, or his coaching methods.. However, you can't put the blame on Brown for "not being able to control his players."

To put this into perspective, on every single team I have been on, there is at least the one kid who thinks he is hot shit and everybody should cater to his needs(including the coach.) Bynum from what I gather is that person. He was considered a problem before he put on the Cavaliers uniform, he was considered a problem when he was with the Cavaliers.

Bynum is 26 years old, at that age you are expected to be professional. The difference between Bynum, and the rest of the Cavaliers was that while other members of the team may not love the idea of playing under Brown, they don't throw (at least highly publicized) temper tantrums in the middle of practice.

He is getting paid millions to play basketball, it is time for him to grow up.

 

[kidduck]

Bynum Getting An MRI: You had to know it was coming. You had to know that as much prep work and rehab as Pacer center Andrew Bynum has done to get healthy and ready to contribute that eventually his body would eventually push back.


Bynum underwent an MRI on his swollen knee yesterday and his status going forward is still very much up in the air according to Pacers head coach Frank Vogel.


“This is what we signed up for,” Vogel said to Zak Keefer of the Indianapolis Star. “We knew he was a great player with some problem-area knees, (who was) going to be in some times and out some times. We’re fully aware of that and we’ll be excited whenever we have him in uniform.”


The Pacers signed Bynum to a one-year deal worth $1 million after he was waived by the Chicago Bulls.
The Pacers immediately put Bynum on a conditioning and rehab program and hoped to get him ready for the post-season.

Bynum saw his first game action as a Pacer on Tuesday March 11, and sat out the following game due to soreness. Bynum logged 20 game minutes on Saturday and posted a 15 point, nine rebound game and has been sidelined ever since.


The Pacers are being very cautious with Bynum, hoping that a good treatment and conditioning program can get him healthy enough to contribute, however an MRI a week after logging his first minutes isn’t necessarily a good sign.

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[speedyd718]

Man, I guess the Cleveland Clinic doctors really had Bynum put together.

 

[shoes22]

And the Bynum saga has reached its logical conclusion.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/05/07/andrew-bynum-has-left-the-indiana-pacers/

Andrew Bynum has left the Indiana Pacers. It was mutual.

Well, that couldn’t have gone much worse.

Let’s take a look back at the Andrew Bynum era in Indiana: 36 minutes over the course of two games, scoring 23 points and pulling down 19 rebounds during what amounted to two little tests in the regular season. Oh, and he used a lot of training room ice. Spent some time in the anti-gravity treadmill. That’s basically all of it.

Andrew Bynum’s time in Indiana is done, the team announced Wednesday — he will miss the remainder of the playoffs and not be with the team.

“We want to thank Andrew and our medical staff for trying to get the issues with his knee resolved,” Pacers President Larry Bird said in a released statement. “We wish him the best in the future.”

The Pacers signed him as a free agent Feb. 1 for $1 million. Despite Bird’s public protestations, this was really a signing designed to keep Bynum away from the Heat or another team that might use him against the Pacers in the playoffs (at the time of the signing that was a concern). If the Pacers got anything out of Bynum, great, but when he was signed the guys in the locker room shrugged.

To be fair Bynum is not at fault for the collapse we have seen in Indiana — he was barely around the team, he didn’t change the chemistry, he was not taken seriously enough to damage chemistry. It’s not Bynum’s fault that somehow Roy Hibbert has morphed into a poor man’s Kendrick Perkins on the court. (The Danny Granger for Evan Turner move by Bird had a bigger impact in the locker room and on the court.)

Bynum’s NBA future going forward is largely nonexistent. He has serious knee issues and doesn’t like to play through pain in them. His chances in Cleveland and Indiana largely went poorly — he can do some things still on the court but he can’t really get and stay on the court.

I like Bynum, he’s smart and honest. He’s got a diversity of interests in his life, he is curious and likes to explore. That makes for an interesting person. However, it doesn’t really make for a great NBA player — that requires a singular focus that is just not in Bynum’s nature.

Because he’s big and skilled some team may give him a small, non-guaranteed contract. Maybe a training camp invite. But the days of investing in Bynum are gone, and soon he will be free to bowl when he wants, to flamenco dance his way across Europe without being bothered by nagging NBA responsibilities and fans.

He imploded in Indiana just like he did in Cleveland. Looks like his NBA career is over.

 

[KI4MVP]

why did they let him go? He's averaging as many points and rebounds this series as Hibbert.