Chief Wahoo Discussion

[caf]

lets make this thread a little ligher, yes?

what are some names we like?

 

[Huber.]

lets make this thread a little ligher, yes?

what are some names we like?

Commodores is my cheesy suggestion named after Commodore Perry and the battle of Lake Erie. It is historical, doesn't sound weak, and Feller joined the Navy mid career... Cleveland already has a beer and monument of him.

 

[David.]

Commodores is my cheesy suggestion. It doesn't sound weak, named after Commodore Perry and the battle of Lake Erie, and Feller joined the Navy mid career.

What about the Cleveland Alcoholic Savages?

 

[caf]

What about the Cleveland Alcoholic Savages?

And we could use this as our mascot.

 

[Real Deal]

Realistically, Tribe is the only name I'll settle for. But I think Dolan is pissed that the commish is up his ass and will wipe the names clean.

Congratulations people. You finally got your wish.

 

[David.]

And we could use this as our mascot.

Dead

 

[Otsego Mar]

All the good nicknames are taken. Fuck this shit man.

I won't settle for shit like 'Thunder' that's cheese...

Crabaliers
Corkscrews
Crushers






















Stay with Indians.

 

[Huber.]

What about the Cleveland Alcoholic Savages?

What did he do that would upset the snowflakes?

 

[Otsego Mar]

Cleveland Casinos owned by Rock Ventures, Indian Reservations.

We can make a triangular dome and call it the Charmin TeePee.

 

[Real Deal]

Chief Wahoo is a innocent caricature, he wouldn't harm a fly let alone a fellow Indian. Make sure we hold a funeral when the time comes and share stories of the past concerning anything Chief and how he affected your young life.

Certain individuals aren't invited.

 

[David.]

Chief Wahoo is a innocent caricature, he wouldn't harm a fly let alone a fellow Indian. Make sure we hold a funeral when the time comes and share stories of the past concerning anything Chief and how he affected your young life.

Certain individuals aren't invited.

Love the avi.

Check my status

 

[chrisrich91]

I understand that the Chief may have had racist roots/tones at it's conception, and that is the argument to remove it.

I also feel that it quickly shifted to a symbol of pride in this community, and 99.9999999999% of people observe no racism at all when seeing and appreciating the Chief.

Alas, he is being fazed out now. And where there was no present day racism/negative feelings towards Native Americans associated with the logo's existence, moving forward there absolutely will be racism/negativity towards Native Americans in response to its removal.

Obviously this isn't right. Obviously I'm not saying this is a reason not to make the change. I'm just stating fact that there will be far more racism in response to this change than there has been in decades simply due to its existence.

 

[David.]

I understand that the Chief may have had racist roots/tones at it's conception, and that is the argument to remove it.

I also feel that it quickly shifted to a symbol of pride in this community, and 99.9999999999% of people observe no racism at all when seeing and appreciating the Chief.

Alas, he is being fazed out now. And where there was no present day racism/negative feelings towards Native Americans associated with the logo's existence, moving forward there absolutely will be racism/negativity towards Native Americans in response to its removal.

Obviously this isn't right. Obviously I'm not saying this is a reason not to make the change. I'm just stating fact that there will be far more racism in response to this change than there has been in decades simply due to its existence.

I think your angle is spot on in regards to the trans bathroom issue, but i don't see it as strong here.

For the record, i do think this is racist. I cant see how it isnt. But white guilt is perniscious and not always grounded in reality, as evidenced by the polling of the issue.

Whites will be guilty as long as they are doing well, and will give up their stuff until they are no longer doing well. That is part and parcel of this "white privilege" bs that has been bestowed upon them. Keep checking your "privilege" until its checked permanently guys.

 

[-Akronite-]

I understand that the Chief may have had racist roots/tones at it's conception, and that is the argument to remove it.

I also feel that it quickly shifted to a symbol of pride in this community, and 99.9999999999% of people observe no racism at all when seeing and appreciating the Chief.

Alas, he is being fazed out now. And where there was no present day racism/negative feelings towards Native Americans associated with the logo's existence, moving forward there absolutely will be racism/negativity towards Native Americans in response to its removal.

Obviously this isn't right. Obviously I'm not saying this is a reason not to make the change. I'm just stating fact that there will be far more racism in response to this change than there has been in decades simply due to its existence.

The fans that show up in redface and headdresses says otherwise IMO. Though that barbershop sign Max posted shows there definitely is/will be resentment toward Natives from some, which is asinine. But I think liberals will get most of the hate, in direct relation to this, as they have in this thread, which is fine. People will whine about how PC culture is ruining all of our great traditions and eventually everyone will either get over it or die.

 

[David.]

The fans that show up in redface and headdresses says otherwise IMO. Though that barbershop sign Max posted shows there definitely is/will be resentment toward Natives from some, which is asinine. But I think liberals will get most of the hate, in direct relation to this, as they have in this thread, which is fine. People will whine about how PC culture is ruining all of our great traditions and eventually everyone will either get over it or die.

..or you guys will continue to not win elections and people will fight back against idiocy.

Not like pc culture waxes and wanes or anything. Jesus.