Cleveland Browns Quarterback Position

[Huber.]

you are failing to discount for the fact that he's only under contract for this year. That's a major disadvantage compared to everyone else in the draft.

The Browns have major cap space and can franchise him if they need to. The contract isn't a problem.

 

[sportscoach]

Grappolo is maybe the best Available QB this offseason, but he is also one that has to many concerns to give up a first round pick for. He can walk/we have to give him the franchise tag after one season and have the same issues that Washington has with Cousins and Cousins is a better QB than Grappolo. I am not against getting, I am against overpaying for him.

I would rather be AJ McCarron, who maybe doesn't have as much talent, but the coach would know exactly who he has and knows the offense very well. Now that's a safer bet, but if we trade for McCarron, Jackson feels he can start and shouldn't cost as much. So I will trust the organizations judgement, but I know they will not spend a 1st on Grappolo, plain and simple

 

[sportscoach]

The Browns have major cap space and can franchise him if they need to. The contract isn't a problem.

We can franchise him yes, but do we want to trade for a guy who will have one year of experience that we either have to Franchise or let walk in his second year? No offense I am not willing to chance it when we are rebuilding. We need a guy we can have control over for a few years

 

[Huber.]

We can franchise him yes, but do we want to trade for a guy who will have one year of experience that we either have to Franchise or let walk in his second year? No offense I am not willing to chance it when we are rebuilding. We need a guy we can have control over for a few years

We can franchise him for more than one year. But if they feel like he is worth a contract they could make him the highest paid QB and it have little effect on the salary cap since all but like 5 players on this team are on a rookie contract

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

The Browns have major cap space and can franchise him if they need to. The contract isn't a problem.

We can franchise him for more than one year. But if they feel like he is worth it they could make him the highest paid QB and it have little effect on the salary cap since all but like 5 players on this team is basically on a rookie contract

I don't think this addresses the concern.

The concern is having to make a decision in 2018 -- after only one year of play -- whether or not we're going to sign the guy to a franchise tag. That's a ton of money to put at risk, and it may really tick him off if he'd rather get a long term deal. We may be forced into making a very expensive long-term decision without having enough information, or risk alienating him.

Further, we've actually got some pretty talented younger players for whom we are going to have to pony up some money fairly soon.

Pryor is a free agent right now.
Bitonio is a free agent in 2018
Kirksey is a free agent in 2018

None of those guys is likely to come cheap, and we have no idea who the FO is planning on signing this (or next) offseason as a free agent. With Jamie Collins, they just showed a willingness to trade for and then immediately sign top talent to an expensive contract. It's the equivalent of an FA pickup, so assuming these guy are dedicated to building the team only through the draft is not correct.

Another way to look at it as this -- the cost of signing Garropolo to a franchise deal would be enough money to sign the top-rated free agent at any other position. Think of that for a second -- Garrapolo has to be worth whatever draft pick(s) we trade to get him plus the top rated FA at any other position for the deal to make sense.

That's not having "little effect" on the cap.

 

[SixPACK]

 

[Soda]

 

[SixPACK]

I didn't see an actual interview in person, so maybe someone else did? Did he ACTUALLY say that? Pretty damn set we are taking a QB then. Unless he is just saying that to build up offers.

 

[Soda]

I didn't see an actual interview in person, so maybe someone else did? Did he ACTUALLY say that? Pretty damn set we are taking a QB then. Unless he is just saying that to build up offers.

Silver dropped a couple bombs. Said he'd be stunned if the Browns didn't go Garrett at 1, then said what you have.

 

[CBBI]

I didn't see an actual interview in person, so maybe someone else did? Did he ACTUALLY say that? Pretty damn set we are taking a QB then. Unless he is just saying that to build up offers.

This doesn't sit particularly well with me.

There's a QB in this draft that Hue loves, but he doesn't think he'll be there at 12?

I, personally, don't think any QB is worth the No. 1 pick, but I just hate hearing that. The Browns have more picks and more draft ammo than anyone, arguably the worst or second worst QB situation in the league and yet Hue is coming out in early March and saying that the guy he really wants, he doesn't think he'll get?

 

[sportscoach]

Can we trust what Mike Silver says though? Some of these guys just kind of say what they think/from secondary sources. I am not familiar on how reliable they are to be sincere.

 

[CBBI]

Can we trust what Mike Silver says though? Some of these guys just kind of say what they think/from secondary sources. I am not familiar on how reliable they are to be sincere.

If there's anyone in the media to trust when it comes to Hue Jackson, it would be Mike Silver.

He's the most credible Hue guy out there.

 

[Randolphkeys]

This doesn't sit particularly well with me.

There's a QB in this draft that Hue loves, but he doesn't think he'll be there at 12?

I, personally, don't think any QB is worth the No. 1 pick, but I just hate hearing that. The Browns have more picks and more draft ammo than anyone, arguably the worst or second worst QB situation in the league and yet Hue is coming out in early March and saying that the guy he really wants, he doesn't think he'll get?

The way I'm reading it is Hue likes a QB as a development project if he's there at #12, but he doubts that developmental guy will be there and it isn't worth trading up for a guy who won't start for a year or two.

I've believed this for a long time, but college football doesn't often produce starting QBs for the NFL anymore. A bridge QB who has been acclimated to NFL playbooks and defenses is mandatory, unless a special talent comes through the college pipeline.

 

[Spectre]

My take on Silver's comment(s) is that there's a QB that Hue really likes (rumored to be Trubisky) but we won't take him at #1 because his grade is crushed by the grade we have on Garrett.

The real question for me is that when Silver acknowledges that Hue's favorite QB will likely be gone at #12, does the FO just accept that and take another guy or do we try to trade up for him?

 

[Huber.]

Who the heck is in charge over in Barea?