The Wizard of Moz
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no accurate information coming out
information about every QB but Rosen coming out
???
Profit!!!
no accurate information coming out
Where is all this, "The NFL thinks he's a great prospect" stuff coming from? All I hear that from is Mel Kiper and the mock draft pundits like him that keep mocking Allen to the Browns for some inexplicable reason.
What is the indicator that Josh Allen is going top 5, top 10, or even in the first round? Because he is being mocked there?
no accurate information coming out
information about every QB but Rosen coming out
???
Profit!!!
First off tell me any NFL exec who has come out and talked openly about any prospect they are thinking of drafting. It is always a journalist or draft guru who says he has talked to different NFL execs. So that blows that theory out of the water. NFL execs don't need the print, they are already getting paid. And part of that is to not let other teams know who they are interested. Don't you find it suspicious that the NFL execs are never named? And if they do come out and say anything, it will be things like Dorset puts out. Things like Josh Allen is a nice kid. Or Darnold had some fumbling issues but that is fixable. Then a lot of you guys come on here and try and decipher what he meant by it. Did Dorsey take a crap at 9:00 am and not 10:13 am , what does it mean? I bet it means Allen is out and DarnoldWho in the NFL considers him a top prospect. What NFL execs are coming out and telling us he's a top prospect? That's my whole point. If the argument for why he should be considered #1, is that "NFL guys are considering him #1!"....that is far from convincing, to me. And it wouldn't be convincing to him, either.
I totally agree with this. I think Mayfield is MUCH higher on their board than the media thinks. I also think Allen is a total smoke screen. If the Browns take Mayfield #1 overall that would be a masterful job of playing the disinformation game. I don't think he's the correct pick at #1, I think Darnold or Rosen are better than he is. However; Mayfield has the potential in my opinion to be the best QB from this draft. Darnold and Rosen IMO have a higher chance at it than Mayfield but I can see scenarios where he is. I would be absolutely shocked if Allen is the best QB from this class (or even the 2nd best).
First off tell me any NFL exec who has come out and talked openly about any prospect they are thinking of drafting. It is always a journalist or draft guru who says he has talked to different NFL execs. So that blows that theory out of the water. NFL execs don't need the print, they are already getting paid. And part of that is to not let other teams know who they are interested. Don't you find it suspicious that the NFL execs are never named? And if they do come out and say anything, it will be things like Dorset puts out. Things like Josh Allen is a nice kid. Or Darnold had some fumbling issues but that is fixable. Then a lot of you guys come on here and try and decipher what he meant by it. Did Dorsey take a crap at 9:00 am and not 10:13 am , what does it mean? I bet it means Allen is out and Darnold is in because he had an early bowel movement and AZ will stay off my (Dorsey's) ass. But if it was at 10:13 am then it means he picked Allen because he knew Chris wanted anyone but Allen and he wanted to screw with Chris.
And if you haven't read or watched that Allen is now in the majority of being drafted by the Browns #1, then you haven't been reading or watching much tv. At least about the NFL draft. Yesterday on the Rich Eisen show, Trent Diller and his associate who own a company (Science and Soul) that diagnose quarterbacks throwing motion, speed of ball , arm release , and other functions, talked about Allen and what he brings to the table. Get on Google and type in The Rich Eisen Show. Look at yesterday's show and educate yourself a little on Josh Allen. Pretty good stuff if you like him or not.
Well, how about this: is it out of the question that he ends up sliding on draft night or is that just an impossibility in today's QB driven league? I'm not trying to rip anyone who wants to shill for Allen, fuck it, that's fine- but it's a legitimate question. Where is all this, "The NFL thinks he's a great prospect" stuff coming from? All I hear that from is Mel Kiper and the mock draft pundits like him that keep mocking Allen to the Browns for some inexplicable reason.
What is the indicator that Josh Allen is going top 5, top 10, or even in the first round? Because he is being mocked there?
First off tell me any NFL exec who has come out and talked openly about any prospect they are thinking of drafting. It is always a journalist or draft guru who says he has talked to different NFL execs. So that blows that theory out of the water. NFL execs don't need the print, they are already getting paid. And part of that is to not let other teams know who they are interested. Don't you find it suspicious that the NFL execs are never named? And if they do come out and say anything, it will be things like Dorset puts out. Things like Josh Allen is a nice kid. Or Darnold had some fumbling issues but that is fixable. Then a lot of you guys come on here and try and decipher what he meant by it. Did Dorsey take a crap at 9:00 am and not 10:13 am , what does it mean? I bet it means Allen is out and Darnold
is in because he had an early bowel movement and AZ will stay off my (Dorsey's) ass. But if it was at 10:13 am then it means he picked Allen because he knew Chris wanted anyone but Allen and he wanted to screw with Chris.
And if you haven't read or watched that Allen is now in the majority of being drafted by the Browns #1, then you haven't been reading or watching much tv. At least about the NFL draft. Yesterday on the Rich Eisen show, Trent Diller and his associate who own a company (Science and Soul) that diagnose quarterbacks throwing motion, speed of ball , arm release , and other functions, talked about Allen and what he brings to the table. Get on Google and type in The Rich Eisen Show. Look at yesterday's show and educate yourself a little on Josh Allen. Pretty good stuff if you like him or not.
Watch the Rich Eisen show with Palmer on it. That was pretty good and they are doing polls and websites. It suprised me. Plus all the talking heads on TV are gravitating to it also. I think part of that is that they are jumping on the bandwagon. I don't know if they necessarily believe it. Same with draft gurus, most are saying it also. Some are still holding out. I personally have no idea who is going #1. I think Allen has the most upside, but out of the 4 he needs to sit and learn the most.Agree with this completely.
Disagree with that. Allen does have some supporters -- I think some people believe he is being devalued too much. There is a lot of dogmatic stuff out there (and in here) claiming that Allen won't be successful. So, there's some pushback.
I think he does have a decent chance to be successful -- just probably not as high a chance as with some of the other guys. But there isn't anything close to a majority that believe the Browns will take him number one.
Well, Dorsey might not be high at all on the coaches... so....Dustin Fox hearing the coaches might not be all that high on Darnold...
Well, Dorsey might not be high at all on the coaches... so....
Did everyone watch the Rich Eisen show with Josh Allen's personal QB coach on it.
Glowing reviews.