Collin Sexton | The Young Bull

[chuck0609]

For a 19 year old rookie rafted 8th, he's doing alright for me. This team isn't good, an he's a bright spot. Give him at least one of the Duke players next year and watch these kids grow together.
Add the first rounder in 2020 and with potentially a lot of cap space and Boston likely imploding by then with all their personalities, the Cavs can be in a damn good position.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Shooting 92% from the line and 50% from 3 on the season.

Effort is consistent and always there even if he doesn't know the NBA game well on either side yet.

Looks like a surefire thing as a scorer.

 

[I'mWithDan]

I'm glad his shots are going in but even with him shooting so well it's like a surprise when the ball goes in based that heave motion of his: weird as hell but if it keeps going it's the same points either way. Just nagging me that I'm not sure how his consistency will be long term

Sexton rated out well in shot pose mechanical evaluation. He does some unorthodox things on his gather but it is a quick, one motion shot that finishes high. That's all you really want from a repeatability standpoint.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Sexton rated out well in shot pose mechanical evaluation. He does some unorthodox things on his gather but it is a quick, one motion shot that finishes high. That's all you really want from a repeatability standpoint.

Don't you think he needs to jump a bit higher on his mid range attempts? His current release will make it hard for him to put up contested shots, no?

 

[I'mWithDan]

Also @Pioneer10 I posted some sequence images of his pose detection but the key one is release:

That's is a really nice finish. Ball high, just right of center, off hand clear.

His motion in to his shot is a little funky but the above can certainly be a consistently made shot long term.

 

[I'mWithDan]

Don't you think he needs to jump a bit higher on his mid range attempts? His current release will make it hard for him to put up contested shots, no?

I don't know. His release is really quick on those push shots. He was able to squeeze it off over Wall, who is a really twitchy, long, athletic PG.

For Sexton specifically, he releases those shots similar to Kyrie, where he's letting it go prior to his apex.....the timing of doing that makes it much harder to block (even though visually, it does look a little weird).

I think the larger concern with Collin is just shot selection. Cutting out long 2's, releasing drive pressure with more of a willingness to pass against help....just things you have to learn sometimes as a young player.

You just have to be super encouraged by his ability to score as a 19 year old PG though. What he is showing early, for a player considered a developmental guy (long term), is really exciting. Just needs to focus on refining his playmaking....which he's only demonstrated in small spurts.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

I don't know. His release is really quick on those push shots. He was able to squeeze it off over Wall, who is a really twitchy, long, athletic PG.

For Sexton specifically, he releases those shots similar to Kyrie, where he's letting it go prior to his apex.....the timing of doing that makes it much harder to block (even though visually, it does look a little weird).

I think the larger concerns with Collin is just shot selection. Cutting out long 2's, releasing drive pressure with more of a willingness to pass against help....just things you have to learn sometimes as a young player.

You just have to be super encouraged by his ability to score as a 19 year old PG though. What he is showing early, for a player considered a developmental guy (long term), is really exciting.

It looks like he almost gets blocked, but he releases it just in time. It looks tough and in a hurry, but it goes in.

I wouldn't say their release is the same. Though Kyrie changed his mechanics and release throughout his career. Sexton uses a lot of legs to generate force, and Kyrie ( at least right now) uses tons of arm to generate force. Kyrie at the beginning used more legs, but his release was still perfect. Sexton's is a bit early, but that's fine I guess.

Sexton takes the long 2's because he is a rhythm shooter and he likes to size up his defender. Once he becomes more confident in his 3's, I feel like he will start sizing up his defender from behind the arc and when he uses screens instead of taking this unncessary mid ranger.

Collin compared to Kyrie is a pretty one dimensional scorer right now, but this one dimension can be explosive.

 

[Cavatt]

He's getting better every game. Plenty of dumb mistakes of course. Turnovers suck, but that is just what happens to rooks.

His shooting like some us thought in summer league is better than advertised. I am just not worried about his shooting or scoring at all. HE is going to naturally progress in that area.

His decision making and playmaking are the things that he is not as natural at. The real encouragement here for me is that he does not have JC like tunnel vision. He forces things sometimes, but he usually isn't taking shots he can't make.

He will make more passes as he figures out where those are. The team is still to chaotic to hang your hat on any action.

 

[I'mWithDan]

It looks like he almost gets blocked, but he releases it just in time. It looks tough and in a hurry, but it goes in.

I wouldn't say their release is the same. Though Kyrie changed his mechanics and release throughout his career. Sexton uses a lot of legs to generate force, and Kyrie ( at least right now) uses tons of arm to generate force. Kyrie at the beginning used more legs, but his release was still perfect. Sexton's is a bit early, but that's fine I guess.

Sexton takes the long 2's because he is a rhythm shooter and he likes to size up his defender. Once he becomes more confident in his 3's, I feel like he will start sizing up his defender from behind the arc and when he uses screens instead of taking this unncessary mid ranger.

Collin compared to Kyrie is a pretty one dimensional scorer right now, but this one dimension can be explosive.

Certainly....Collin isn't Kyrie and will never be Kyrie. Even so, there aren't many 19 year olds who can score 20 a game at the NBA level.

Obviously let the sample size lengthen but he's scoring 19 a game as a starter on moderate usage numbers. If he can show marked improvement as a playmaker, that is a nice draft hit in the mid to late lottery.

 

[Cavatt]

Certainly....Collin isn't Kyrie and will never be Kyrie. Even so, there aren't many 19 year olds who can score 20 a game at the NBA level.

Obviously let the sample size lengthen but he's scoring 19 a game as a starter on moderate usage numbers. If he can show marked improvement as a playmaker, that is a nice draft hit in the mid to late lottery.

It's solid. If he can improve a little, he could be a perennial 6th man candidate. If he can improve a lot he could be an allstar. Just depends on his playmaking and decision making and how he progresses in that area.

I do think he has leadership qualities. he has been vocal at times out there on the floor it appears moving guys around.

 

[Rich]

As far as the selection goes, I think it's hard to argue the Cavs, to this point, messed up taking him. I'd say there's only guy who is playing better behind him in Alexander, and that's it, and it's not by a ton.

And if only one guy ends up better than the guy you picked, you kinda did your job pretty well, I think.

Obviously super early on all that. But his early returns are better than Knox or Bridges, definitely.

 

[RuanuLaw]

As far as the selection goes, I think it's hard to argue the Cavs, to this point, messed up taking him. I'd say there's only guy who is playing better behind him in Alexander, and that's it, and it's not by a ton.

And if only one guy ends up better than the guy you picked, you kinda did your job pretty well, I think.

Obviously super early on all that. But his early returns are better than Knox or Bridges, definitely.

Can you post some stats and evidence to show that SGA is playing better than Sexton is recently?

 

[Rich]

Can you post some stats and evidence to show that SGA is playing better than Sexton is recently?

I mean we're 12-14 games into the season. Does it need to be more recent than just "the season?"

 

[Cavatt]

Can you post some stats and evidence to show that SGA is playing better than Sexton is recently?

He isn't scoring as much, but his assists and rebounds are better. Shai is more epolished and is clearly a better playmaker right now. He also is long and is smart defensively.

Shai looks like he is at least a very solid guy who can be a starting point. He just isn't very fancy or explosive .

 

[buckeyefan]

Sexton vs SGA Per 36 Minutes (According to Basketball Reference)

PTS
17.4/13.2

AST
3.1/4.2

TRB
3.6/4.3

3P%
.500/.412