DeAndre Liggins Waived

[Deezus]

Even though most will say Korver wasn't a bad move, I feel like the most wouldn't say it was the right move. At neutral move is what I would call it, definitely a better fit 3 and D players could have been had.

I actually like the Korver pickup... but I have to admit that I would have rather had Sefalosha (if healthy).

 

[Real Deal]

I just need to know who called for this? DJ is really living off of one and1

Oh and a flagrant on Biyombo.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Bringing in a tough, defensive minded vet that the locker room loves/respects might be one of the angles.

Liggins can play hard and defend well, but he's never gonna be able to speak up and have it resonate with the other guys.

Dahntay speaking will get the guys, particularly LeBron, to at least listen. He's always been a good vocal defensive leader.
And it's a little different than James Jones preaching D, because Dahntay can actually go out and defend somebody after speaking.

I don't hate the move. I understand it. If John Wall sends us home early going 35/12/8 because we can't stop him, or Lowry or Isiah.... Then this move may be looked at as the nail in the coffin for our season.

If we flip the switch and beat the Warriors and Dahntay Jones has 5 points and 4 rebounds and a steal and takes a charge in the third quarter of a tightly contested game 5 in Oracle....Then It may be viewed as the move that saved our season.

Your rationale is funny man. This move is not basketball related.

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

I want to believe you IBWT, but if Dahntay could provide a contending team any of what you're saying, why didn't he sign with anyone else this year, or even attempt to as far as anyone has reported? Why would he not play any kind of professional basketball at all?

He's basically walking in off the street like Sanders did. You can't try to tell me that Dahntay was staying ready all year, preparing for this to happen, when as of 2 days ago the Cavs were saying they would prefer to sign a player that had actually played this season.

Dahntay Jones played like 40 games D league ball last year, and a whole 1 NBA game before the playoffs and then he came in and did exactly that. Then played 3 minutes a game in the playoffs. Mostly garbage time, until the Finals where he came in and gave us a couple HUGE 5-6 minute spurts.

He can't shoot anyway, so as long as he kept himself in shape, not playing in the D league this year doesn't change anything for me. He still knows how to play the game , he's tough, strong, and can maybe give us 5-7spot minutes once or twice during the course of a game .

He's not coming in to play 15-20 mpg and be in the rotation. I don't expect that. But if he can literally just do exactly what he did last season for us, then I can't knock the move.

 

[Sir'Dom Pointer]

Dahntay Jones played like 40 games D league ball last year, and a whole 1 NBA game before the playoffs and then he came in and did exactly that. Then played 3 minutes a game in the playoffs. Mostly garbage time, until the Finals where he came in and gave us a couple HUGE 5-6 minute spurts.

He can't shoot anyway, so as long as he kept himself in shape, not playing in the D league this year doesn't change anything for me. He still knows how to play the game , he's tough, strong, and can maybe give us 5-7spot minutes once or twice during the course of a game .

He's not coming in to play 15-20 mpg and be in the rotation. I don't expect that. But if he can literally just do exactly what he did last season for us, then I can't knock the move.

He isn't going to play 1 minute. Even in garbage time.

 

[Real Deal]

I'm a homer and I can't even talk myself into this move.

Liggins got screwed.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

we were worried about Larry Sanders who hasn't played in two years, go right up and sign a guy that hasn't played in a year.

Who can say what Dahntay Jones can provide? I'll bet Jim Brown could average 4.0 yards/rush too.

To me, this is a pretty transparent bit of pseudo-nostalgia/emotional manipulation, with Lue/Griffin hoping to use Dahntay's presence as sort of a flashback to what happened last year. If he was capable of being relied upon to recreate his few good minutes from one appearance in the Finals last year, he'd have been on a roster long before this.

Hey, maybe Henry James will go point-a-minute again if we bring him back. I wonder what he's doing?

 

[Triplethreat]

To me, this is a pretty transparent bit of pseudo-nostalgia/emotional manipulation, with Lue/Griffin hoping to use Dahntay's presence as sort of a flashback to what happened last year. If he was capable of being relied upon to recreate his few good minutes from one appearance in the Finals last year, he'd have been on a roster long before this.

Hey, maybe Henry James will go point-a-minute again if we bring him back. I wonder what he's doing?

Bring back Lester Hudson

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

Dude hasn't been active in nearly a year. Honestly, what does his bring to this team that commands respect or demands playing time?

The team loves and respects Dahntay. I'm not sure how you can argue that they dont. LeBron especially. I'm not saying he commands playing time. He doesn't. He's not going to get consistent PT. But he's proven himself in big game spot minutes before, and that's the role we were looking to fill.

Liggins is the type of relentless, tenacious guard that takes Curry's head out of the game. He did so on Christmas, still our signature win of the season.

I agree. I would have kept him. But the Cavs did a pretty good job of getting in Curry's head and taking him out of the game without Liggins even being on the roster. Liggins wouldn't see anymore consistent time than Jones might. Kyrie is good for 40 a game against them. JR does good work on Klay and Korver should be fine chasing around screens as well.

I think Liggins would be most useful in the East playoff rounds. That's why I would have kept him. But I simply don't think this move is terrible or anything. I wouldn't have made it, but it's not completely nonsensical, is all I'm saying.

Cavs trying to replicate some Game 6 And-1 magic is, frankly, sad.

Trying to recreate finals wins is sad? Should we recreate games 1-2 instead? C'mon man! Lol.


I dunno. We really don't disagree on this THAT much. I'm higher on Dahntay than you, but I feel the same about Liggins. I think there was a legit place in the rotation for him if we were willing to make sacrifices. I think we'd have been a better team for it. But at least they didn't sign Varejao, lol.

 

[wuck]

There must be something more behind all of this, because the basketball reasons and the timing are not convincing at all. And I'm not trying to make major claims about Liggins' potential impact in the playoffs, since Lue clearly wasn't counting on him for anything.

But signing a 36-year-old who hasn't played all year on the 2nd-to-last-day of the regular season. C'mon. As if they couldn't have signed him earlier than that?

 

[InBoobieWeTrust]

He isn't going to play 1 minute. Even in garbage time.

I'll bet you any amount of money to RCF he plays over one minute.

 

[mhi]

To me, this is a pretty transparent bit of pseudo-nostalgia/emotional manipulation, with Lue/Griffin hoping to use Dahntay's presence as sort of a flashback to what happened last year.

Yep. It's a PANAC move to try and get more leadership, comradely, etc. in the locker room. Not because he's gonna give us good minutes.

It's almost but not quite there yet desperate, so I do tip my hat to Griffin for at least trying something.

 

[Cavatt]

I can't understand this at all. Liggins specifically showed his value against GS. WTF

 

[Stark]

Dahntay Jones played like 40 games D league ball last year, and a whole 1 NBA game before the playoffs and then he came in and did exactly that. Then played 3 minutes a game in the playoffs. Mostly garbage time, until the Finals where he came in and gave us a couple HUGE 5-6 minute spurts.

He can't shoot anyway, so as long as he kept himself in shape, not playing in the D league this year doesn't change anything for me. He still knows how to play the game , he's tough, strong, and can maybe give us 5-7spot minutes once or twice during the course of a game .

He's not coming in to play 15-20 mpg and be in the rotation. I don't expect that. But if he can literally just do exactly what he did last season for us, then I can't knock the move.

My thing with this is that Liggins can do the exact same thing, has been playing all season, and is an infinitely better defender than Dahntay was, even in his prime. Plus we'd have control over him next season.

Liggins is legitimately capable of coming in and stopping guys like Kyle Lowry or John Wall for 4-6 minute spurts, something Jones simply cannot do. Plus Liggins has been playing and practicing with us all season long.

We saw what he did to Curry on Christmas. I just do not understand bringing in Dahntay in pretty much the same role, when he's simply older and worse. Not like he's a fantastic locker room guy either. RJ and Channing both said he didn't get along well with guys in one of their podcasts.

It still completely baffles me and I cannot find one positive unless Liggins did something really bad that we do not know about.

 

[inliner311]

I can't understand this at all. Liggins specifically showed his value against GS. WTF

Just from a depth point of view, if something happens to Shump or JR, it puts alot of pressure on the team without Liggins. There aren't many good lineups with this team without Shump, JR, or Liggins.