Dylan “Breaking” Windler is a Laker. How much help does LeBron need!?

[CBBI]

The biggest thing moving forward for Windler appears to be how much weight and strength can be add without losing any athleticism/quickness

Everything else seems... good? Really good?

 

[Douglar]

Luke Jackson pre back injury was a hell of a player. Shame he started slipping disks at 19.

And a shame the Cavs got played into reaching for Jackson with the 10th pick. Jackson would have been a much better pick at #26. If only Igoudala had fallen one more spot.

Positive spin: at least they didnt draft Arujo at 8.

 

[Lee]

Comps are weird. It’s like walking into a trap to mention Klay. He is just so good. And I don’t watch college b-ball until the tourney. But from what we know about him, Windler seems like he has a similar game to college Klay to me. But... I didn’t watch college Klay.

Why am I posting this? Wtf was my point? I will see myself out and make sure I close the door.

I feel the same way. I actually for some stupid reason felt Klay went to UCLA. But i was a bit obsessed with Belmont so i watched about 3 or 4 of their games. The pure offense made me watch any game of theirs televised. So their tourney plus ours. Not a huge sample size, but the comp is sitting their almost in every aspect. Klay is a better defender and had higher steals, Windler is a better rebound, although at a much lower level.

But lets just not say it, so stupid to even think it...right??

 

[Mr. Orange]

This guy may be a case like Jeremy Lin, should have gone much higher (or in Lin's case be a lottery pick but he went undrafted) but didn't due to stereotypes.

 

[sailfish]

I love the fact that Windler is a plus rebounder too. Shows that he isn’t afraid to mix it up down low. He’s a modern day small forward and can even play some power forward periodically, if the Cavs go small

 

[Nphan]

This guy may be a case like Jeremy Lin, should have gone much higher (or in Lin's case be a lottery pick but he went undrafted) but didn't due to stereotypes.

This guy is Klay like

 

[Lee]

So he tested as a SF, but if tested as a guard, his lane agility would have been 3rd behind Carsen Edwards and Shuttle Run 8th behind Terrence Davis. He tested ahead of Porter Jr on both.

His 3/4 sprint was 15th among fowarads, so that's where his athletic ability becomes average, but ahead of players like Admiral Shofield and Grant Williams. He would have been 18th as a guard. Vert around 10th as a guard.

Even at the guard position, he is above average athletic, especially in the shorter athletic areas like shuttle and agility.

And his 8 max bench is pretty strong for the position. Admiral was 15, so that is amazing, but KPJ was only 2, or Nassir little 5

How is this possible? He might be only 200lbs, but he is not weak. I get he is older than the above, so that helps, but they are both 25lbs heavier than him and shorter arms. I dint want to use pf numbers, because their arm length hurts them, With Windler's arm length and slight build, he shouldn't be this strong.

His combine numbers are very good. Very high in agility if tested as a guard and above average in strength compared to other SF's.

How is this possible?

 

[Jordan]

Klay is arguably the second best shooter of all-time on top of being an all-NBA defender. That may be Windler's ceiling, but frankly, his odds of reaching those heights are minimal. It's not that easy to find talent like Klay.

 

[Man Called X]

And a shame the Cavs got played into reaching for Jackson with the 10th pick. Jackson would have been a much better pick at #26. If only Igoudala had fallen one more spot.

Positive spin: at least they didnt draft Arujo at 8.

Jackson was well worth a lottery pick. He had back issues he didn't know about that started his rookie year. But yes, Iggy would've been the better pick and was my top target in that draft.

 

[inliner311]

I love the fact that Windler is a plus rebounder too. Shows that he isn’t afraid to mix it up down low. He’s a modern day small forward and can even play some power forward periodically, if the Cavs go small

I think if he can play PF even if it's just in small ball lineups, it's his easiest path to break into the rotation early on. We really lack a backup for Love. At SF he is probably fighting with Cedi and Porter for minutes. At backup PF, it's basically no one right now.

 

[Lee]

Klay is arguably the second best shooter of all-time on top of being an all-NBA defender. That may be Windler's ceiling, but frankly, his odds of reaching those heights are minimal. It's not that easy to find talent like Klay.

Its why none of us want to say it. But we are fans, don't spend 100's of hours watching film. So we draft a guy and us fans dig into the tape, combine numbers and stats. And when you do that, Klay Thompson is who you get. No way that is possible, but its eye opening.

The first question that was asked can he play guard, he is only 200lbs. And so like most we see he is white, but we start digging into athletic numbers. First someone points out he has a 37.5 max vert...hmm, that's athletic. Then I start looking at agility numbers and he is very athletic compared to other guards, 3rd and 7th. Then he comes out he is skinny, but strong.

So then we move onto the stats and they are very similar to Klay's in college. Its eye opening that his ceiling is that high, but what it really shows is that he is not unathletic, can play guard, has the tools to be a good defender at the NBA level and we already know he is possibly the best shooter in the draft.

 

[Lee]

I think if he can play PF even if it's just in small ball lineups, it's his easiest path to break into the rotation early on. We really lack a backup for Love. At SF he is probably fighting with Cedi and Porter for minutes. At backup PF, it's basically no one right now.

He has a much better shot at sg than pf. Much. He is just to slight to play pf on top of being short for the position. I don't see it at all. And frankly in my mind, he ight be the best sf we got, even over cedi.

Oh and Nance can play backup pf, or did you forget we had him? And if you go small ball, Cedi is the better pf than Windler.

 

[Jordan]

Its why none of us want to say it. But we are fans, don't spend 100's of hours watching film. So we draft a guy and us fans dig into the tape, combine numbers and stats. And when you do that, Klay Thompson is who you get. No way that is possible, but its eye opening.

The first question that was asked can he play guard, he is only 200lbs. And so like most we see he is white, but we start digging into athletic numbers. First someone points out he has a 37.5 max vert...hmm, that's athletic. Then I start looking at agility numbers and he is very athletic compared to other guards, 3rd and 7th. Then he comes out he is skinny, but strong.

So then we move onto the stats and they are very similar to Klay's in college. Its eye opening that his ceiling is that high, but what it really shows is that he is not unathletic, can play guard, has the tools to be a good defender at the NBA level and we already know he is possibly the best shooter in the draft.

It just puts unfair expectations on the kid... If, as a Cav, Windler has a similar impact to last year's versions of Jared Dudley, Joe Harris or Bogdanovic then that will be an immense success at the 26th pick. And those are three players where I think the comparison fits.

 

[natedagg]

Klay is arguably the second best shooter of all-time on top of being an all-NBA defender. That may be Windler's ceiling, but frankly, his odds of reaching those heights are minimal. It's not that easy to find talent like Klay.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

 

[Jordan]

Thanks Captain Obvious.

I mean, there are literally four posts directly comparing him to Klay, which is something that is unfair to Windler. Sorry if you didn't feel like reading the discussion.