Gordon Hayward Safari

[gourimoko]

Guys.. we're talking about a MAX deal for Gordon Hayward...?? I mean c'mon!

 

[sailfish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en data-scribe-reduced-action-queue="><p>Sources telling me this <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cavs?src=hash">#Cavs</a> making max offer to Hayward is fantasy. Sides may just be in get acquainted stage. No offer sheet made and...</p>— john telich (@JohnTelich8) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnTelich8/statuses/484413848128995328">July 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en data-scribe-reduced-action-queue="><p>(Hayward part 2) definitely not max. No decision or specifics have been determined per Hayward <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cavs?src=hash">#Cavs</a></p>— john telich (@JohnTelich8) <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnTelich8/statuses/484414235514904576">July 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I can just about guarantee you that these rumors of the Cavaliers offering the max are coming from Hayward's agent, as a means to spur on Phoenix & Boston. It appears to have worked too.

 

[Green Lantern]

and if anyone says Monroe I will throw up

 

[iWx]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Told by Cavs source details reported about meeting with Jazz free agent Gordon Hawyard have been &quot;greatly exaggerated.&quot;</p>&mdash; Sam The Bullshit Whisperer (@SamAmicoFSO) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/statuses/484417013888974851">July 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[gourimoko]

I think the logic is that we want to add two star-caliber players, and there are star caliber free agents wings but no star caliber free agent big men. Therefore you add the star caliber wing with cap space, and make a trade for the star caliber big man.

Logic...

I've said exactly this 5 times already.. I understand the deal if it's to absorb and utilize cap space for a later trade.. But as a team building maneuver it's an awful move. Hayward to me is not a long-term piece on this team. I'd trade him at $15M before I'd trade Dion.

 

[Derek]

I'm down with Hayward for 4 years/60. None of you naysayers can bring me down.

 

[Nathan S]

Logic...

I've said exactly this 5 times already.. I understand the deal if it's to absorb and utilize cap space for a later trade.. But as a team building maneuver it's an awful move. Hayward to me is not a long-term piece on this team. I'd trade him at $15M before I'd trade Dion.

Of course you'd trade him at $15M before you trade Dion. Dion is quite valuable on his rookie contract. The only reason you sign Hayward is if you think you can package Dion with a handful of picks and bring back a star big man.

 

[Soar]

See my post.

I find it highly unlikely Gasol would ever sign here. But I get your premise.

 

[gourimoko]

I can just about guarantee you that these rumors of the Cavaliers offering the max are coming from Hayward's agent, as a means to spur on Phoenix & Boston. It appears to have worked too.

They were put up by Brian Windhorst on ESPN.. He's pushing this shit.

 

[MirORich]

Throwing the money out of the window, a lotta Chris Grant's in this thread.

 

[gourimoko]

Of course you'd trade him at $15M before you trade Dion. Dion is quite valuable on his rookie contract. The only reason you sign Hayward is if you think you can package Dion with a handful of picks and bring back a star big man.

Package Hayward....

 

[DJTJ]

Package Hayward....

You can't.

Your Waiters bias, while deserved, is overwhelmingly evident.

 

[AuxiliaryPie]

Gour, you can get me to believe Melo would sign here, but you cant talk me away from Hayward

 

[Nathan S]

Package Hayward....

You could, but again, Dion is going to have a higher trade value because of his contract situation and his upside. Basically the series of moves I'm talking about "trades" cap space and Dion's potential for immediate production. That's obviously a "trade" that must be done very carefully or we could lose out and end up with a lower ceiling as a team. But we've heard multiple times that the Cavs' front office wants to go all-in this offseason, and this is how you do it, for better or for worse.

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

They were put up by Brian Windhorst on ESPN.. He's pushing this shit.

It was Woj. Windy's tweet came after Woj's, and was explicitly based on "Yahoo reports"