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Haslem agrees to stay with miami..

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thats all and good, but we still need a backup big man
 
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cliff robinson, vitlay p, dale davis, tractor... alot of other options out there besides haslem at fraction of price. everyone has been jumping on the "get rid of gooden" bandwagon that we are starting to lose sight.. would haslem really of been a better option than gooden?? the only way we would of gotten haslem is to get rid of gooden.. then we would still need a backup big man and we would of had no money to get him...
 
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Like I've been saying, and some others have been saying, we should get Reggie Evans. He rebounds, he defends, and when you least expect it, guess what he does, he scores!
 
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I want Donyell Marshall. Good rebounder, decent defender, and great threat from the arc. I think he'd come off the bench great backing up the 4. He can play both major minutes and next to nothing, so he should fit in behind Gooden well.

Or Cliff Robinson. I heard he lost a step in NJN, but that might be because he didn't really want to play there. He got traded from GSW to NJN unwillingly. He was doing fine the 02-3 season. I don't think a 2 year contract would hurt to bring on a vet that can play the 5, defend, and score from the perimeter.
 
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I like the idea of bringing tractor back - he proved he has heart - that was the one offseason move I completely disagreed with.
 
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I'm not a Gooden hater, but I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Reggie Evans in his place. He may fit our needs better. Assuming we got some nice goodies in return for trading away Gooden.

While I like Donyell Marshall, where does that leave AV? If you're thinking trade Gooden, start AV, bring Donyell off the bench, I don't know about all that. AV could be our 4 of the future, but he was not ready to be a starter last year, and until I see that he's made significant strides I'm not willing to thrust him into that role.

The big needs this team has in the front court is a backup for Z. Preferably a ying to Z's yang. A guy who can either bang with the big uns, get out and run, or both. A guy who can defend and rebound. Any offense is just a bonus at this point. Not sure who that guy is. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing the Ukraine Train return...
 
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LJ4MVP said:
I like the idea of bringing tractor back - he proved he has heart - that was the one offseason move I completely disagreed with.

Agreed. Although if we bring him back for less than the team option we originally had then that's another huge win for Ferry.

Traylor gives us depth at the 4, a servicable backup to the 5 (although he's not a true center), a veteran bring-your-lunch-pail kind of presence, and some much needed muscle.
 
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In a Pluto article he suggests doing a sign and trade with Seattle that involves Gooden to get Evans. Evans would be a great fit imo.
 
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I am for Donyell Marshall. Didn't we try to trade for him last season?

I know that AV is the PF of the future, but Donyell is not going to be the perminant solution as the backup big. He is already old and by the time AV is running the court in his prime, Donyell will be long gone or his abilities have deteriorated.

Donyell would also be a shooting threat, something that we don't have right now.
 
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King said:
In a Pluto article he suggests doing a sign and trade with Seattle that involves Gooden to get Evans. Evans would be a great fit imo.

Heres the article:

AKRON, Ohio - (KRT) - Now that they've signed Zydrunas Ilgauskas, the Cavaliers' next move should be to explore every trade opportunity for Drew Gooden.

It would be a huge mistake for the Cavaliers to come back with Gooden as their starting power forward.

Why the rush to replace Gooden? He averaged 14.4 points, 9.2 rebounds, shot 49 percent and appeared in all 82 games.

Besides, the Cavaliers need a point guard to help Eric Snow.

Indeed they do, and it might be Sarunas Jasikevicius, the Lithuanian who was the best man at Ilgauskas' wedding along with being the Most Valuable Player in the European League. He's 29, is supposed to be a terrific shooter, and a strong leader at the point.

But he can't defend.

If the scouting reports are right, the Cavaliers could have a rerun of last season, when Jeff McInnis and Ilgauskas were so dismal attempting to stop a pick-and-roll play.

General manager Danny Ferry has said coach Mike Brown believes he can correct some of the Cavaliers' defensive problems with his new team concepts. It's called "HELP" defense, and that doesn't mean a player dribbles past you and you scream "HELP!!!"

It's kind of like playing a zone, switching off, and players understand who to defend as a unit - not individually.

What does that have to do with Gooden?

He doesn't get it.

That's what former Cavaliers coach Paul Silas told me. And it's what former interim coach Brendan Malone told me. And it's what I heard from executives in Orlando, which was Gooden's last stop before Cleveland.

It's not that Gooden refuses to play defense. He just seems to struggle grasping the concepts and often is a step or two late.

The Cavaliers can't have that.

The signing of Larry Hughes is an upgrade. He made the NBA All-Defensive first team, led the league in steals, grabbed more than six rebounds a game and has Brown excited about fitting the 6-foot-5 guard into his defensive schemes.

Snow is a solid defender at the point, but the Cavaliers still need to do something about their outside shooting. That makes free agent Jasikevicius appealing.

While many fans want Antonio Daniels, don't be surprised if he signs a big contract somewhere. It's a very dim point-guard market, and he's the glittering star despite not being a full-time starter in Seattle.

Gooden will be a free agent in the summer of 2006, so the $4 million left on his contract should make him attractive to a team wanting to create some salary-cap room a year from now.

He also is a scorer, and some teams need that from their power forward - because few have an offensive-minded center such as Ilgauskas.

Backed by owner Dan Gilbert's cash, Ferry has attacked the free-agent market in a systematic way. That led to the signing of Hughes and Ilgauskas. Also, give former general manager Jim Paxson credit for putting the Cavaliers in position to have $28 million in salary-cap room for Ferry to use on a shopping spree.

How should the Cavaliers address their power forward spot? And by the way, do you know they also need a backup center?

It was a mistake not to pick up Robert "Tractor" Traylor's $1.8 million option. They should see if he wants to come back, and try to work out a reasonable deal, because he can play center and power forward.

Anderson Varejao is intriguing and can help at power forward, but he probably is not ready to start for a playoff-caliber team. He's only 22 and has limited experience.

Some fans want Udonis Haslem, but he's a restricted free agent, and the Miami Heat are expected to keep him.

The Cavaliers need someone such as Reggie Evans of the Seattle SuperSonics, a rugged rebounder who averaged 9.3 rebounds and has no interest in scoring. He's a restricted free agent, and perhaps the Cavaliers can work out a sign-and-trade deal involving Evans and Gooden.

No doubt there are other possibilities, and it's up to Ferry to consider them - and not just be stuck on signing free agents who quickly chew up cap room.
 
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lyXo said:
I want Donyell Marshall. Good rebounder, decent defender, and great threat from the arc. I think he'd come off the bench great backing up the 4. He can play both major minutes and next to nothing, so he should fit in behind Gooden well.

Or Cliff Robinson. I heard he lost a step in NJN, but that might be because he didn't really want to play there. He got traded from GSW to NJN unwillingly. He was doing fine the 02-3 season. I don't think a 2 year contract would hurt to bring on a vet that can play the 5, defend, and score from the perimeter.

Donyell wants to be a Sixer..so I'm not sure If he'll come here.
 
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im fine with Marshall coming here, because that means he wont kill us every game when we faced him, just like Hughes..
 
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Well I for one am glad to see we aren't signing Haslem. That would've been a mistake. He is a good player but not an upgrade over Gooden, and he was asking for more money then we could afford to spend on a potential bench player. PLUS we would still need a back up Center. If we could get a good player to be a back up Center for us, then I don't think we would have to trade Gooden. But that is probably easier said then done...
 
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Donyell wants to be a Sixer..so I'm not sure If he'll come here.

It's also reported that Washington is supposedly his #1 choice.

So, if we give him a decent contract offer: it'll have to start around 3-4 mil, these are his options.

Go to Washington: Probably the most money, and good PT at the 3 and some spot minutes at the 4. Washington was in the playoffs last year and advanced, but lost one of their most important pieces in Hughes. Lottery team likely.

Go to Philly: AI is notorious for not making his teammates better and not accomplishing memorable feats: championships. Webber was brought in to help, but last season shows that he really didn't. Full strength Webber means 15 mpg for Donyell. MLE would be his pay. 7th-8th seed in the playoffs a possibility, first round exit.

Go to Cleveland: Least amount of money. But Cavs should look like the most promising option. With Drew's inconsistency, Donyell should see around 20 mpg. Fits in perfectly coming off the bench.

Donyell is 32 years old. He's been underrated and underpaid his whole career. He could try to cut his paycheck and go to a lower team with a chance of contending. Or he could take less money, prove everyone wrong to underrate him and join a team with a chance at a championship. We're already contenders without him. He could be a Big Shot Don, or something like that, for us.
 

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