Jae Crowder, See Ya When We See Ya

[TyGuy]

@TyGuy

People thought Dion Waiters was all star caliber here and that Kyrie Irving was a future MVP current superstar.

 

[Real Deal]

People thought Dion Waiters was all star caliber here and that Kyrie Irving was a future MVP current superstar.

Nice lockdown defense.

 

[TyGuy]

Without even have played a game

You can blame the advanced stats on this one.

He's played plenty of NBA games.

 

[Triplethreat]

No, probably most underrated or you wouldn't have felt the need to take a stab.

I mean with posts like that all over this board so far, and even dating back to wanting to trade Love for him (2 years ago), I'm certainly fooled.

I've seen plenty of Jae Crowder to know that he's certainly not the 3rd or even 4th best player on this deep, deep roster. He does strictly two things well, defense and spot up shooting.

 

[Ohio]

He's played plenty of NBA games.

As a Cavalier, of course.

I'm excited about Crowder too, he fills a critical need for this team and I'm thrilled he's starting.

Obviously, I'm not as high on him as the computers/some here. He's not a top 10 player

 

[TyGuy]

As a Cavalier, of course.

I'm excited about Crowder too, he fills a critical need for this team and I'm thrilled he's starting.

Obviously, I'm not as high on him as the computers/some here. He's not a top 10 player

Nobody that is really high on him has said he is a top ten player though.

 

[dark2332]

I mean with posts like that all over this board so far, and even dating back to wanting to trade Love for him (2 years ago), I'm certainly fooled.

I've seen plenty of Jae Crowder to know that he's certainly not the 3rd or even 4th best player on this deep, deep roster. He does strictly two things well, defense and spot up shooting.

Sure. He's also a cerebral player who cuts without the ball, runs the floor, and rebounds well, too. The thing he isn't above-average at is creating for himself/others. He's a two-dribble and pull-up guy, or a one swift move and drive straight to the hoop if there's an alley guy. He knows his limitations. I applaud that as many players are still learning theirs.

On this team, that's perfect as he will be paired with two creators in LeBron/Rose (or Thomas when he returns). His physical defense is something no one on this team offers or even comes close to offering. He will likely guard the opposing team's best wing scorer every night.

We spent three years wishing for PJ Tucker and got a bigger, better, younger version who can shoot better, along with do literally everything better.

So yes, in terms of on-court impact, he is probably our 3rd or 4th best player. Isaiah Thomas may be the 3rd best player if you're speaking strictly offensive impact.

All I know is this: Jae Crowder is the type of player that LeBron James gets the most out of. If you're heady, he'll find you opportunities to score.

If you can't see that and grow annoyed over those excited about what Jae Crowder's going to bring, that's on you, not me.

And for the record, even though I don't care much about them, ESPN has him #38 in their top 100 player rankings.

#1 LeBron James, #26 Kevin Love, #33 Isaiah Thomas, #38 Jae Crowder.

...which ranks 4th on our team.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank3150/nbarank-players-31-50

38. Jae Crowder
Cavaliers | SF | @CJC9BOSS

Last year's rank: 56

• 2017-18 projected RPM: 3.98

Stats & Info: There were three small forwards who ranked inside the top 15 at the position in both offensive and defensive RPM. The Cavaliers now have two of them, with Jae Crowder joining LeBron James. (The other is Milwaukee's Giannis Antetokounmpo.) Crowder gives Cleveland another versatile defender to not only match up better with Golden State, but also spell James on the nights he needs a rest.

 

[Chris]

Without even have played a game

You can blame the advanced stats on this one.

I think he's pretty underrated here, in all honesty.

 

[TyGuy]

I think he's pretty underrated here, in all honesty.

This thread didn't take off until I posted some content and even suggested he was underrated league wide.

 

[TyGuy]

Think this is the right move. Jae Crowder expected to start for Cavs, Tristan Thompson moving to the bench.

https://theathletic.com/114433/2017...or-cavs-tristan-thompson-moving-to-the-bench/

It's absolutely the right move. Crowder is a much better player and higher impact guy than Tristan. He's too good to come off the bench in my opinion. Especially in a new league that starts multiple wing guys up front. We don't lose any rebounding by putting Love at center who is a better rebounder than 95% of centers as it is and he's more well equipped to guard centers.

 

[Ohio]

I think he's pretty underrated here, in all honesty.

I think he's both, honestly.

He's more than just your average role player, but he's not an All-Star.

He's a rare breed

 

[TyGuy]

I think he's both, honestly.

He's more than just your average role player, but he's not an All-Star.

He's a rare breed

I can think of quite a few guys on the all star team last year that he had a higher impact than and was a better add to this team. Guys that we wings as well such as Demar Derozan, Wade, and Anthony.

 

[cavsfever]

I'm very excited about Crowder, mildly excited about Rose, reserving judgement about IT till we see if the injury is chronic, and a little apprehensive about Wade.

 

[MirORich]

I'm very excited about Crowder, mildly excited about Rose, reserving judgement about IT till we see if the injury is chronic, and actively apprehensive about Wade.

If Wade is playing 18-24 mpg, I'm excited. I was ready to go to war with the team PRIOR to Wade's signing. To get him for the minimum which creates further flexibility in lineups and overall rest/decreased minutes for the older wings(Wade/JR/Korver/Rose) plus add a 4th playmaker/creater(LeBron, IT, Rose, Wade) to a team that had just two last year(LeBron, Kyrie) is just fantastic.

Now if he's playing 32-36 mpg, that concerns me heavily.

 

[Ohio]

The LeBron/Crowder handshake is a net positive. Flexin!