No way I would take him. Even if it was just for tt Korver JR and hill. Rather trade those guys in pieces for assets than one year of butlerNo they shouldn't.
Fuck this safari.
No way I would take him. Even if it was just for tt Korver JR and hill. Rather trade those guys in pieces for assets than one year of butlerNo they shouldn't.
Fuck this safari.
I just don't understand the almost-hyperbolic fear of going into mini-rebuild mode around here. We should be committed to 3 things: a) developing our young talent b) accruing assets c) clearing cap space. Trading for Butler undermines all of that. And for what? So we can proudly shake our fist at LeBron and say "see, we can get to the playoffs without you!"?No way I would take him. Even if it was just for tt Korver JR and hill. Rather trade those guys in pieces for assets than one year of butler
There's some people around who think that acquiring Butler means we're automatically going to get Kyrie back. So we have what, an older version of our former Big 3 with an injury-prone, malcontent Butler in place of LeBron? Who seriously wants that?
I get what you're saying, but it doesn't have to be an "either/or" scenario. We can keep pursuing trades and upgrades while also deciding as an organization to prioritize "development" over "win now."I don't see the appeal of that either. You mention Butler being injury prone -- have to stick Kyrie in there as well, and that knee is a real concern long-term. And that's supposed to be the "home run" scenario when we manage to get Kyrie back as well. What if we don't get Kyrie back, and we can't attract someone at least as good as or better than him? Regardless of whatever pre-trade discussions we might have with Butler this summer, is he really going to stick around next summer if he's the only star veteran player?
Trading Sexton plus picks to get Butler is the kind of deal you do if LBJ was still here, not after he's gone.
Is it, tho? I don't think the market for Butler will be very strong, especially since many teams have likely settled their rosters already for training camp.Now, is that enough for Minnesota to bite, especially with no or little picks to add. That is very unlikely.
Kyrie would never come back to cleveland. I don’t think he liked the city. Kyrie wants to be a KnickI just don't understand the almost-hyperbolic fear of going into mini-rebuild mode around here. We should be committed to 3 things: a) developing our young talent b) accruing assets c) clearing cap space. Trading for Butler undermines all of that. And for what? So we can proudly shake our fist at LeBron and say "see, we can get to the playoffs without you!"?
There's some people around who think that acquiring Butler means we're automatically going to get Kyrie back. So we have what, an older version of our former Big 3 with an injury-prone, malcontent Butler in place of LeBron? Who seriously wants that? Kyrie's comments about Lue and the ugly parting just a year ago are also not positive indicators he'd even want to come back here.
We need to be looking ahead to a new era. I wasn't giddy about the Love extension but I could embrace it as a "mentor/loyalty" signing. Gilbert is just going to torpedo the Cavs' future in epic Ahab fashion if he goes after Butler.
I'm still struggling to understand where this Kyrie coming back comes from. It makes absolutely no sense at all from his perspective. He's in a better situation and there's no connection between him and the Cavs besides being drafted by us. It makes no sense from a basketball or emotional point of view.
Flawless strawman. Perfectly executed.Him and Butler are friends and as we learned from LeBron players who are friends ALWAYS end up together, which is why we're still in the middle of the James/Paul/Wade/Melo dynasty.
Flawless strawman. Perfectly executed.
I get what you're saying, but it doesn't have to be an "either/or" scenario. We can keep pursuing trades and upgrades while also deciding as an organization to prioritize "development" over "win now."