"Just don't piss in my face"

[col63onel]

Because maturity is certainly applicable to todays various professional sports?

Has it really come to this--as individuals we can extend our opinion of how 'maturely' someone is supporting another team? If individuals are that sensitive about some various tweets--maybe you should not look at them?

I say, root for whoever you want/how you want as long as it does not infringe upon me in some physical way. I would say, in general, the sports fan(s) (all teams) need to take a step back and realize that all the forms of professional sports is for entertainment.

So you think it's acceptable for 23 year old millionaires to blatantly disrespect those who pay money to allow them to be millionaires?

 

[Huber.]

So you think it's acceptable for 23 year old millionaires to blatantly disrespect those who pay money to allow them to be millionaires?

They don't have to pay money to see him play if they don't want to.

 

[col63onel]

They don't have to pay money to see him play if they don't want to.

So feeling disrespected = not wanting to watch the entire team?

 

[WellYouNeednt]

So you think it's acceptable for 23 year old millionaires to blatantly disrespect those who pay money to allow them to be millionaires?

Like Huber said, we as consumers do not have to pay to watch a sporting event if we choose not to. I am as much of a fan as the next guy, but i no way feel disrespected. Professional athletes have every right to choose who and how they cheer for other athletes and teams, just like we do. As far as i know, there is nothing in their contract that states they cannot be fans of other teams and other players. I would also guess there is nothing that states of how or how not they can express it. Just because you or anyone else feels offended by their actions--does not mean it is right or wrong. It still comes down to the choice of whether or not you want to view their personal twitter accounts or Facebook pages. This in turn, then, comes down to your opinion of a right and wrong type of fandom.

How you choose to feel about it is entirely up to you.

 

[col63onel]

Like Huber said, we as consumers do not have to pay to watch a sporting event if we choose not to. I am as much of a fan as the next guy, but i no way feel disrespected. Professional athletes have every right to choose who and how they cheer for other athletes and teams, just like we do. As far as i know, there is nothing in their contract that states they cannot be fans of other teams and other players. I would also guess there is nothing that states of how or how not they can express it. Just because you or anyone else feels offended by their actions--does not mean it is right or wrong. It still comes down to the choice of whether or not you want to view their personal twitter accounts or Facebook pages. This in turn, then, comes down to your opinion of a right and wrong type of fandom.

How you choose to feel about it is entirely up to you.

I don't get this part of it. NFL Network, ESPN, CBS and Fox are part of my cable bill, whether I watch the NFL or not. And why is not watching the NFL my only recourse?

What he did was disrespectful to the city he works in. Just because he is allowed to do it doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to call him an asshole for doing it.

 

[WellYouNeednt]

I don't get this part of it. NFL Network, ESPN, CBS and Fox are part of my cable bill, whether I watch the NFL or not. And why is not watching the NFL my only recourse?

What he did was disrespectful to the city he works in. Just because he is allowed to do it doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to call him an asshole for doing it.

I was under the impression that it was reference to, paying to see the games at the stadium.

Listen, i completely understand your (others) view on this matter. For me, i guess, i just look forward to the actual games. I currently do not follow twitter/have an account and the same goes for Facebook. On the social network front--i am pretty out of the loop. I could care less what these athletes do away from the field, as long as it is not criminal/ have an impact on their performance.

Like i said, i understand your (others) plight with the way a player may or may not represent his or her employer (city). At the end of the day, it comes down to a matter of opinion: is this form of behavior right or wrong? To me, it is not--to others, it is.

 

[col63onel]

I was under the impression that it was reference to, paying to see the games at the stadium.

Listen, i completely understand your (others) view on this matter. For me, i guess, i just look forward to the actual games. I currently do not follow twitter/have an account and the same goes for Facebook. On the social network front--i am pretty out of the loop. I could care less what these athletes do away from the field, as long as it is not criminal/ have an impact on their performance.

Like i said, i understand your (others) plight with the way a player may or may not represent his or her employer (city). At the end of the day, it comes down to a matter of opinion: is this form of behavior right or wrong? To me, it is not--to others, it is.

I neither have twitter nor facebook. The medium shouldn't matter. If they called in a local talk show, or said so in an interview, and said the exact same thing, I'd have the same issue.

And I think we are actually arguing different things. If I am misrepresenting your argument, I apologize, but it seems to me you feel it isn't wrong because it isn't illegal, or even close to being illegal (which is true).

If someone is an asshole in a legal way, they are still an asshole, and should be brought to task for it.

 

[macbdog]

All I am going to say is, leCharles Bentley pretty much threw the passive-aggressive hammer down with his response to Josh Gordon :chuckles:

I understand, sort of, why these players respond the way they do- I don't tweet but I have seen enough to realize that every half-assed, un-thought out response by an athlete is usually in response to a half-assed, un-thought out vent by some random stranger. I get that, in reality it is tit-for-tat, where some fan somewhere makes a blanket assumption about a Cleveland athlete and the athlete in turn make s a blanket assumption about the fans. However, the fan isn't the professional being paid millions to represent something. At the very least, they should bite their tongue- or at least have the sense to direct their response directly to the fan who commented in the first place. But eh, that would be one of those life skills you learn while growing up.... and I guess some of these guys show how much they have in their responses.

 

[WellYouNeednt]

I neither have twitter nor facebook. The medium shouldn't matter. If they called in a local talk show, or said so in an interview, and said the exact same thing, I'd have the same issue.

And I think we are actually arguing different things. If I am misrepresenting your argument, I apologize, but it seems to me you feel it isn't wrong because it isn't illegal, or even close to being illegal (which is true).

If someone is an asshole in a legal way, they are still an asshole, and should be brought to task for it.

Well, i guess it all comes down to semantics. I agree an asshole is an asshole. Obviously, i do not condone someone acting/performing in an unsafe/classy manner on/off the field. Like i said, i completely understand how this can be construed as acting like an asshole. Ideally, yes, it would be nice if a Browns, Indians or Cavs player was a fan/supported all Cleveland teams. More so, if they kept their opinions to themselves and not print them for their own fan-base to see. I think we can both agree that the level of maturity within professional sports is sadly--pretty low. I think the more one recognizes that the majority of these professional athletes are oversized people with 'child like' minds, the easier it is to brush aside. As some one stated earlier--most of them did not have adequate role-models for parents. Sadly, most of the colleges/universities they played for create low academic standards to cater to them. So, when taking this all into account--i usually set my expectations pretty low as far as maturity/professionalism go within pro sports.

 

[gourimoko]

I think the point is that it's ungrateful and disrespectful to work for and represent a franchise and a city while openly gloating when their rivals win anything. It's uncalled for and disrespectful. This isn't about rooting for your favorite team or player, it's about gloating and being condescending to your fans.

They didn't tweet to congratulate the Heat, they tweeted solely to mock Cleveland fans - their own fans, in order to support LeBron James. That's classless.

 

[Magic Brownies]

Speaking of pissing in someone's face, did you steal that signature from Rob?

yes, i used his signature.... long ago. i also thanked him in a thread and said it was pretty cool.

 

[Magic Brownies]

Pretty sure he did, lol

again, thanks for the rad sig.

 

[Huber.]

Maybe your education would have taught you the proper use of the ellipsis.

My 6th grade education is better than their 2nd grade.