Kevin Love - Miami Ground Machine

[godfather]

Love is having a career season himself.

He's being punished because he plays alongside LeBron and Kyrie...

Disgraceful he's not starting. Butler's team is bad.... I'm sorry. I am okay with Giannis.

Why are we rewarding losing so much? His team has some talent. The East is God awful, and he can't even get that squad to .500?

Butler is great player, but I'm sorry, that's not deserving of being a starting all-star IMO.

 

[gourimoko]

What you said is absolutely true. But look at their stats, even if slightly, their numbers are a bit better

Their numbers are definitely better, I agree.

My only argument is that both Irving and Love's numbers would be substantially higher if they weren't playing an entire regular season alongside such a dominant player in LeBron James.

 

[godfather]

I'm good with the players and media getting a vote. My issue is with the votes being secret. Gotta be transparent about that stuff, ala MVP voting.

The media shouldn't vote. These assholes aren't experts. Half of them are morons.

 

[gourimoko]

And he's white.

I know you're joking but..

I mean.... I'm not going to argue there isn't some implicit bias on the part of some players, but, that was almost certainly outweighed (in the weighted average) by the majority's implicit bias in the fan vote.

 

[Green Demon]

Wow Love not even in the top 5 front court players in the players vote

 

[gourimoko]

Wow Love not even in the top 5 front court players in the players vote

We have the players vote?

 

[tatejuan11]

Their numbers are definitely better, I agree.

My only argument is that both Irving and Love's numbers would be substantially higher if they weren't playing an entire regular season alongside such a dominant player in LeBron James.

Had he stayed in MIN he would be averaging a 30 point double double

 

[Ohio]

People were debating starters today...and I had an epiphany.

Down the road, nobody remembers, or cares, who starts in the ASG.

The only thing people remember is who was in the game.

There is no such accolade as "starts in the ASG."

The only accolade there is is "ASG appearances" (and ASG MVP).

So, why are people so obsessed with debating the starters? I've been guilty of this too before today. But I longer care.

 

[Green Demon]

We have the players vote?

They showed the top 5 in votes for the players and media on TNT just now Love was like 4th in the media vote and not listed for the players.

 

[TyGuy]

Butler was a guard on the ballot last time I checked. He shouldn't be competing for a spot with Love.

 

[gourimoko]

Top 5 of player votes:
1. James
2. Antetokounmpo
3. Butler
4. George
5. Porzingis

 

[Omar The Horse]

Butler was a guard on the ballot last time I checked. He shouldn't be competing for a spot with Love.

He was in the front court portion of the ballot. He plays the majority of his minutes at SF since Wade joined the Bulls.

 

[gourimoko]

Butler was a guard on the ballot last time I checked. He shouldn't be competing for a spot with Love.

He's a forward this year. Wade is the 2-guard.

 

[gourimoko]

They showed the top 5 in votes for the players and media on TNT just now Love was like 4th in the media vote and not listed for the players.

Well, now we know why Butler made it over Love. His player vote must've been so low as to drive his weighted average below Butler's.

 

[MD13]

The Cavs just posted up James Jones when Phoenix switched off a 2-4 pick and roll (and he hit it!). I get that you want to run your sets and not change the offense but wow.