Lamar Stevens: Junkyard Dog

[Benway]

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No squat from Ice??

 

[Douglar]

No squat from Ice??

Old photo. It's pre-squat

Gutsy game by Lamar tonight.

 

[Futuredome]

He should never squat again

 

[Cavatt]

Gutsy game.

He doesn't get spooked, I'll give him that

 

[BimboColesHair]

We let Love walk in order to make room for this stud, better get used to it

Since this post Lamar Stevens has been a bigger + on the floor his last 3 games (+29) than Kevin Love was in his last 33 games as a Cav (+13).

Stud indeed.

 

[Jontibs]

Since this post Lamar Stevens has been a bigger + on the floor his last 3 games (+29) than Kevin Love was in his last 33 games as a Cav (+13).

Stud indeed.

A little surprised that Love was actually that high given his collapse.

 

[Lee]

Since this post Lamar Stevens has been a bigger + on the floor his last 3 games (+29) than Kevin Love was in his last 33 games as a Cav (+13).

Stud indeed.

Lamar is a situational matchup guy. Quicker players are tough for Lamar to guard, but he is always 100% effort when he is out there, and that can be contagious.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Here's an interesting stat: Stevens is 11-for-44 on corner 3's for 25%. That puts him in the 7th percentile for all NBA forwards. But on non-corner 3's he's 9-for-19, or 47%, putting him in the 99th percentile. Normally players have a higher percentage on corner 3's since they're shorter, but Stevens is the opposite. It's a very small sample, but get him out of the corner and he's been very good.

If he could bring up his percentage on the corner 3's it would really help - probably move him past Okoro and Cedi in the pecking order. His shot blocking and offensive and defensive rebounding are in the 70-72 percentiles for forwards. He's an above average mid-range shooter but he struggles at the rim (30th percentile) and on 3's (24th percentile).

Seeing him hit a huge 3-pointer from the corner in overtime against the Celtics and then take it to the rim for a layup over the 6'11" Muscala was really encouraging because he has not been good this season from the corner or at the rim.

 

[B Mac]

Here's an interesting stat: Stevens is 11-for-44 on corner 3's for 25%. That puts him in the 7th percentile for all NBA forwards. But on non-corner 3's he's 9-for-19, or 47%, putting him in the 99th percentile. Normally players have a higher percentage on corner 3's since they're shorter, but Stevens is the opposite. It's a very small sample, but get him out of the corner and he's been very good.

If he could bring up his percentage on the corner 3's it would really help - probably move him past Okoro and Cedi in the pecking order. His shot blocking and offensive and defensive rebounding are in the 70-72 percentiles for forwards. He's an above average mid-range shooter but he struggles at the rim (30th percentile) and on 3's (24th percentile).

Seeing him hit a huge 3-pointer from the corner in overtime against the Celtics and then take it to the rim for a layup over the 6'11" Muscala was really encouraging because he has not been good this season from the corner or at the rim.

His offensive rebounds in that 4th quarter gave me flashbacks to Varejao. That was the only thing I could relate it to. Just like with Andy, you kept telling yourself "No way he can get another one!" But then he'd go and get another one.

Ideally, Lamar is just that situational guy who always stays ready. With the rest of the bench coming up short, this guy has his chance to make an impact. He could really solidify himself as a rotational piece as the backup 4 by the time the playoffs roll around.

 

[ChicagoCavFan]

Nice B Mac. Stevens, like Andy, has the luxury of being the last option, and are usually camped out somewhere away from the play waiting for their moment to crash the board, timing the shot to give them the best opportunity for a putback. Frankly, Okoro can take a lesson from this.

 

[Cavatt]

Here's an interesting stat: Stevens is 11-for-44 on corner 3's for 25%. That puts him in the 7th percentile for all NBA forwards. But on non-corner 3's he's 9-for-19, or 47%, putting him in the 99th percentile. Normally players have a higher percentage on corner 3's since they're shorter, but Stevens is the opposite. It's a very small sample, but get him out of the corner and he's been very good.

If he could bring up his percentage on the corner 3's it would really help - probably move him past Okoro and Cedi in the pecking order. His shot blocking and offensive and defensive rebounding are in the 70-72 percentiles for forwards. He's an above average mid-range shooter but he struggles at the rim (30th percentile) and on 3's (24th percentile).

Seeing him hit a huge 3-pointer from the corner in overtime against the Celtics and then take it to the rim for a layup over the 6'11" Muscala was really encouraging because he has not been good this season from the corner or at the rim.

There's no reason he has to be the guy in the corner. They could spot him up on the wing and the guard could go to the corner.

 

[Cavatt]

Nice B Mac. Stevens, like Andy, has the luxury of being the last option, and are usually camped out somewhere away from the play waiting for their moment to crash the board, timing the shot to give them the best opportunity for a putback. Frankly, Okoro can take a lesson from this.

Yeah, Stevens barrels to the hoop while the ball is in the air. Andy was routinely the only one moving when the shot is going up. Marcus Smart was the only guy moving when that last FT attempt was going up to put it to overtime, but he broke the rules doing that.

 

[Dr No]

offensive rebounding is a two edged sword. Analytics have discouraged it because a team sending extra guys to the offensive glass put themselves in danger of fast breaks the other direction. Most of the best teams are low in offensive rebounding, while some really bad teams are very high. Fans love them and they are "flashy", and sometimes offensive rebounds are game changers, but smart teams play the percentages and just get back on defense. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/offensive-rebounds-per-game

 

[Lee]

Here's an interesting stat: Stevens is 11-for-44 on corner 3's for 25%. That puts him in the 7th percentile for all NBA forwards. But on non-corner 3's he's 9-for-19, or 47%, putting him in the 99th percentile. Normally players have a higher percentage on corner 3's since they're shorter, but Stevens is the opposite. It's a very small sample, but get him out of the corner and he's been very good.

If he could bring up his percentage on the corner 3's it would really help - probably move him past Okoro and Cedi in the pecking order. His shot blocking and offensive and defensive rebounding are in the 70-72 percentiles for forwards. He's an above average mid-range shooter but he struggles at the rim (30th percentile) and on 3's (24th percentile).

Seeing him hit a huge 3-pointer from the corner in overtime against the Celtics and then take it to the rim for a layup over the 6'11" Muscala was really encouraging because he has not been good this season from the corner or at the rim.

19 non corner 3's is such a small sample size its hard to know.

Lamar might be our best option at backup 3 right now. I am not in practice, wouldnt mind seeing Diakite there too, but not sure how much better if at all he would be than Lamar.

In the long run, I think Lamar is a career back of the roster type guy who when called on gives 100% effort. He will always have a place on my team as an in case of emergency break glass type of guy.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

offensive rebounding is a two edged sword. Analytics have discouraged it because a team sending extra guys to the offensive glass put themselves in danger of fast breaks the other direction. Most of the best teams are low in offensive rebounding, while some really bad teams are very high. Fans love them and they are "flashy", and sometimes offensive rebounds are game changers, but smart teams play the percentages and just get back on defense. https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/offensive-rebounds-per-game

I don't know about that. Looking at the link you provided and comparing it to the same website's numbers for fast break points allowed per game, it shows that Oklahoma City allows the fewest fast break points per game but they are 8th in offensive rebounding. The Knicks are 3rd in offensive rebounding but have allowed the 4th fewest fast break points. The Suns are 5th in offensive rebounding but have allowed the 7th fewest fast break points.

Just because you rank high in offensive rebounds doesn't mean you give up a lot of fast break points. Charlotte is 9th in offensive rebounds and has allowed the 3rd fewest fast break points.

On the other end of the spectrum, Philadelphia is 28th in offensive rebounding but they also rank 28th in fast break points allowed. I don't think there's that strong a correlation between offensive rebounding and fast break points allowed. A lot of fast breaks come off turnovers and have nothing to do with missed shots. You also see fast breaks off missed layup attempts where the shooter ends up on the floor and out of bounds under the basket while the defending team grabs the rebound and has a 5-on-4 opportunity.