Leadership Specialist Tyrod Taylor

[dark2332]

Dorsey gets an A plus from me so far. Cutting Britt the first week was a great sign. Dumping out of shape big mouths like Shelton is another positive. This fat ass defensive tackle whined like a 2 year when a few thousand people held a parade mocking the team. Dorsey is getting rid of all these losers. The next couple of guys to go needs to be the Coleman boys...2 more pathetic losers.

All these great moves will mean absolutely nothing if they don't draft Mayfield with the 1 overall. He's by far and away the only quarterback that warrants being drafted this year. The numbers don't lie. You are what the numbers say you are.

Rosen will get a couple more concussions and then become a lawyer. He and his career 60.9% career completion percentage. By any measurement, that is horrible.

Sam Darnold is a walking, talking turnover machine. Josh Allen? We just traded a Josh Allen clone to the Packers.

Alright statman, I’ll bite.

I actually like Mayfield quite a bit. Not saying he’s my clear favorite of the bunch, but I like him.

However, when you watch these guys, there’s varying levels of arm talent. Baker checks a box—has a decent arm. He throws with touch and accuracy. It’s not the best arm in this draft but it’s not one that’s going to hold him back, either.

Moving on, their offensive systems come to play.

It’s not as simple as looking at college numbers because of the offenses these guys play in.

Mayfield did a damn good job of running that creative Oklahoma spread. Hell, he did better than a good job. He elevated it. He makes players better.

That said, surely you must at least have a modicum of doubt in the fact that many pro concepts are completely foreign to him at this point.

The ball’s out of his hand quickly based on the concept of getting the ball to playmakers in space, many of the “reads” are straight up play design, and he hasn’t taken a drop from under center in college.

Now, they say he’s a quick-learner. I hope so. These teams will get a feel for that in the meeting rooms at the whiteboard.

Of the top QB’s, Mayfield’s system is the furthest from what he will run at the pro level. The Josh’s have the most pro-style familiarity. Rosen has even been familiarized with many of the concepts of a WCO.

So, if you like Mayfield the most, I can see how it’s potentially possible to come to that conclusion because he ran what he was asked to run extremely well with great levels of accuracy and anticipation. He was very effective. He won a Heisman.

That said, there is still an enormous amount of conjecture for him because he has so much he’s going to have to learn for the very first time.

Some of the other QB’s have also performed very well at times in environments that are more reflective of what they’ll be running in the NFL. They’ve also been doing so when tasked with more responsibility in terms of going through progressions.

Thus, it’s really not fair to say he’s the guy and all others are terrible. He can be your guy, but that doesn’t make all other options a joke to consider.

Your level of hyperbole is the reason you’ve been treated poorly on here.

Saying “this is it 100% and all others are idiots” isn’t going to go well.

You have to give respect to get respect.

You’re at a crossroads where you can start creating meaningful dialogue, express opinions, and have conversations. It’s fine to disagree. We all do. Lay out your reasons why in a somewhat respectful manner.

Or, you can continue to have the geniality of a cactus and insult everyone around you without engaging in thoughtful behavior.

I get that you’ve prickled up at the first sign of trouble based on your reception.

However, fresh start, your time on this board is going to be what you make it, brochacho.

 

[Sebastian]

Taylor will be a fine bridge QB. I fully expect the Browns to be in the hunt this year for a Wild-Card spot.

 

[Sebastian]

Dorsey gets an A plus from me so far. Cutting Britt the first week was a great sign. Dumping out of shape big mouths like Shelton is another positive. This fat ass defensive tackle whined like a 2 year when a few thousand people held a parade mocking the team. Dorsey is getting rid of all these losers. The next couple of guys to go needs to be the Coleman boys...2 more pathetic losers.

All these great moves will mean absolutely nothing if they don't draft Mayfield with the 1 overall. He's by far and away the only quarterback that warrants being drafted this year. The numbers don't lie. You are what the numbers say you are.

Rosen will get a couple more concussions and then become a lawyer. He and his career 60.9% career completion percentage. By any measurement, that is horrible.

Sam Darnold is a walking, talking turnover machine. Josh Allen? We just traded a Josh Allen clone to the Packers.

You haven't done your research.

Rosen would either become a doctor like his father, or finish his economics degree and go to the Wharton School with the intent of earning his MBA whence he would either go to Silicon Valley or earn a PhD so he can endlessly mock supply-siders on Sunday morning shows where he'll tell them to stick the Laffer curve up their asses.

 

[AZ_]

What's crazy to me are the assholes around here that won't debate the subject matter. Shelton had zero sacks last season and over a 3 year career has 1.5 sacks. That's what you got for a fucking number 1 round pick. And you wonder why he was dealt for a bag of peanuts? Really? Let me guess...you're bent out of shape that Kizer was traded arencha? LMFAO.

To all the Shelton apologists, the guy was hot garbage. People like Shelton were the reason this team was 4 and 44 since they drafted his sorry ass. If you can't see that then find a different team to follow.

Sacks.

 

[Selby]

Rosen will get a couple more concussions and then become a lawyer.

Racist.

 

[BMAN]

For real though, why’s this guy still here?

 

[CBBI]

I've been critical of the price the Browns paid to get Taylor, but admittedly it does feel good to go into a free agency period not having to scramble to find a QB and not having to sell free agents on joining a team with no QB.

 

[Real Deal]

This dude is here trolling talking about drafting Mayfield at #1. I'd rather have Barkley #1. Fuck, why did I read his post...

 

[Binkster]

Thestatman is an absolute gift to this forum and should be treated as such.

It was getting boring around here with the same coherent, logic-based rationale that was being pedaled.

 

[KB]

Thestatman is an absolute gift to this forum and should be treated as such.

It was getting boring around here with the same coherent, logic-based rationale that was being pedaled.

I still think Eli's Perry Jones obsession was more entertaining

 

[Mr. Orange]

I've been critical of the price the Browns paid to get Taylor, but admittedly it does feel good to go into a free agency period not having to scramble to find a QB and not having to sell free agents on joining a team with no QB.

A 3rd round pick for a starting QB who is somewhere in the 10-20 range of NFL QBs is a great price. You spend top 10 picks hoping for that.

 

[CBBI]

A 3rd round pick for a starting QB who is somewhere in the 10-20 range of NFL QBs is a great price. You spend top 10 picks hoping for that.

In a vacuum? Yes. Sure. Absolutely.

But the Browns are almost assuredly going to draft Taylor's replacement in about six weeks. That changes the entire narrative IMO.

Paying a third round pick for the 15th best QB in the league is great.

Paying a third round pick for a QB that's going to start 10 games? Not so great.

The odds seem significantly more likely that Taylor isn't on the team in 2019 than he is the starting QB.

 

[Binkster]

In a vacuum? Yes. Sure. Absolutely.

But the Browns are almost assuredly going to draft Taylor's replacement in about six weeks. That changes the entire narrative IMO.

Paying a third round pick for the 15th best QB in the league is great.

Paying a third round pick for a QB that's going to start 10 games? Not so great.

The odds seem significantly more likely that Taylor isn't on the team in 2019 than he is the starting QB.

Would you rather go into the year without an established veteran and allow yet another rookie to flounder without proper guidance? We saw how that worked out.

Other options included A.J. McCarron (4 career starts), overpaying for oft-injured QBs who assuredly will not make it through a full season (Bradford, Bridgewater), or 80 year old Josh McCown (who I still wouldn't rule out as a possibility for a backup gig).

A veteran presence like Tyrod is invaluable for a rookie quarterback - much less a locker room that won 0 games.

 

[BlessEm]

I tried to look past Statman a few times but using a sack argument for Danny Shelton is just asinine... I've played dt/ng through school.. in a 3-4... when I was doing my job was when I occupied the center and guard opening it up for my lbs to do their job. I wasn't aloud to go past the line of scrimmage, but to clog the lanes and go left or right down the line of scrimmage..but let's judge him on sacks.

*edit. Went on for a minute about Baker but then realized it's the Tyrod thread

 

[Los216]

I'm 89% sure that they plan is for Tyrod to start every game this season regardless who we draft.