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Lebron can help resolve our spacing issues if he finaly decides to be the Roll Man in the PnR rather than the Ball Handler. He only needs to play like this when we have both Wade and Rose on the floor.

Then you can decide to attack with either Rose/Lebron or Wade/Lebron and only have one of them standing at the 3pt line.. Unfortunately, Lebron for some odd reason never wanted to be that type of player.
He has been by far more productive playing Off-Ball.

Having Lebron play as a Roll-Man makes him a far more dangerous threat, because he is a much bigger threat closer to the basket with his finishing and passing than he is from beyond the arc as a ball handler. The Defense has less time to plan when he gets the ball closet to the basket and therefore his TO% will go down as a result aswell.

As a PnR Roll Man Lebron is ranked in the 96 Percentile(Volume isn't great obviously, but it's consistent over the years) and is able to generate 1.43 PPP. Off Cuts he is able to generate 1.56 PPP and is ranked in the 94 Percentile. In Transition he is able to generate 1.21 PPP and is in the 70 Percentile (It's down because of his high TO Rate, bit he shoots 70% in transition, by far the most efficient).

Lebron as a Ball Handler is able to generate 0.96 PPP and is ranked in the 83 Percentile.. not bad right? but it's still not even close in generating the most efficient shot, especially when you consider the fact that we have another 3 dominant players in the roster and two of them in Rose and Wade aren't that far off and are able to generate 0.90 PPP, 0.89 Respectively on teams with far less individual talent. Then you have IT who is by far the best PnR Ball handler and is able to generate 1.04 PPP and is in the 94 Percentile.

If we want to beat the Warriors we need to change the way we attack. Cavs were the best Isolation team in the league at 0.99 PPP (not good enough to beat the Warriors) and had by far the most isolation plays called and they also lost perhaps the best isolation scorer in the league in Irving.

If we want to beat the Warriors we need to beat them at their own game. They generate the best PPP off of Cuts, Off-Screens, Transition and Spot-Ups. So Unless we somehow become one of the best defensive teams in the league, we need to switch to a motion based offense because they generate far more points off of Cuts/Spot ups/Transition/Screens than we do off of Isolation/PnR/Etc.

The thing is, with the way our roster is built atm, we can perhaps be even better at their own game if the players were willing to change the way they play. We have some elite Spot Up shooters, Cutters, Transition players and it's all about the system at this point. Transition points, Cuts, Scoring off-screens even if you are at the bottom you still generate more PPP than the most elite players that generate their points in Isolation/PnR/etc. Our first line of attack should always be in Transition, Cuts and Off-Ball.

Moving Love to C is perhaps a very good thing. It limits the opposition transition points because we don't crash the offensive boards as often, we limit the opposition offensive rebounding because Kevin Love is the best outlet passer in the league and it's a risk to crash the Boards with him at Center. We also limit scoring off cuts/screens if we play switching defense.. and we also bait teams to Post Ups and Isolation which are one of the least efficient shots.

Having TT crash the boards on offense against starting lineups was detrimental to this team.. we had the worst transition defense mainly because of that. Having TT crash the boards against weak second units that are weak on the boards and are also far less dangerous in transition is a huge net positive.

I wish Lebron would buy in, because this team really doesn't play to it's full potential. We can be as dangerous and perhaps even more than GSW if we change the way we play.

I've mentioned much of this before. Sadly it's only wishful thinking with an incompetent head coach. Any kind of offensive system would do wonders for this team. Instead it's just all iso mixed in with Lue's favorite buzz word - "pace".
 
That’s banking a hell of a lot of trust in the Cavs beating Kyrie without LeBron. I’m not sure how likely that is.
It's just on game though. Lebron is on some Sun Tzu Art of war tactic. Beat your enemy without lifting a finger. He will be sitting courtside smiling and smirking as his team beat Kyrie lead team with him sitting the bench. That shit would mess up most dudes psyche but not sure it will work on Kyrie though.
 
@Sir'Dom Pointer I don't think LeBron trusted Kyrie to make the pass when he would set the screen. Kyrie just never made the pass that great to LeBron or Love.

Wade had a great knack for finding LeBron off the screen. Rose seems to be a willing passer.

Lue just needs to make LeBron do it and once he starts scoring easy buckets I think he'd buy in.
 
That story gives some real insight into the size of Lebron's ego. Good dude fundamentally, committed to working hard and doing right by people, and we are very lucky to have him. But man what an ego.

Also not a great sign that he expresses a continuing grudge against Gilbert for the letter.
 
I'm more worried about how the LeBron feels about Gilbert's visible Trump support

Have to imagine that playing in a super liberal market might appeal to the King
 
That story gives some real insight into the size of Lebron's ego. Good dude fundamentally, committed to working hard and doing right by people, and we are very lucky to have him. But man what an ego.

Also not a great sign that he expresses a continuing grudge against Gilbert for the letter.

Meh.
 
Why do people keep assuming Gilbert is a Trump supporter?

He donated $150K to Hillary's campaign and another $750K through Quicken Loans to a joint fundraiser for her charity.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...raises-gilbert-despite-gift-clinton/93083594/
We don't know what he is. We do know he is a lifelong GOP supporter and rented his facilities to Trump twice. We also know that he donated to Hillary's campaign.

1) Being a lifelong supporter certainly does not mean he supported Trump in 2016.

2) Hosting events equally does not mean he supported Trump, just that he wanted more influence.

3) Donating to campaigns is something many powerful people do. Generally, they donate to both, in order to hold influence. There is a load of political science research that finds, above a certain wealth level, campaign donations do not tell us much about a certain person's political leanings. Thus, this donation, by itself, does not mean he supported/voted for Clinton in 2016.

Put simply, nobody really knows.
 
We don't know what he is. We do know he is a lifelong GOP supporter and rented his facilities to Trump twice. We also know that he donated to Hillary's campaign.

1) Being a lifelong supporter certainly does not mean he supported Trump in 2016.

2) Hosting events equally does not mean he supported Trump, just that he wanted more influence.

3) Donating to campaigns is something many powerful people do. Generally, they donate to both, in order to hold influence. There is a load of political science research that finds, above a certain wealth level, campaign donations do not tell us much about a certain person's political leanings. Thus, this donation, by itself, does not mean he supported/voted for Clinton in 2016.

Put simply, nobody really knows.

Which is fair....I just think it's misinformed to assume he supported Trump.

Secondarily, in regards to Gilbert/the letter, Wade is as thick-headed as they come. I know LeBron still brings up the letter and answers questions about it when asked, but if there wasn't a huge mea-culpa behind the scenes:

1. LeBron never would've come back
2. Wade wouldn't be in a Cavs uniform..

Anyways, whether LeBron walks after this season or closes his career in CLE, he doesn't owe anyone anything....and he states as much in that article.

I do wish there didn't have to be such divisiveness when asked if a Trump fan could be a fan of his.....he said and I'm paraphrasing :"they can be a fan of my game, but me and what I'm about. No...it's unfortunate"....I think that is kind of unfair. Politics shouldn't be so personal...I promise there are a shitload of Ohioans that love LeBron and only voted for Trump as lesser of two evils in their mind.
 
Which is fair....I just think it's misinformed to assume he supported Trump.

Yes, totally agreed.

Secondarily, in regards to Gilbert/the letter, Wade is as thick-headed as they come. I know LeBron still brings up the letter and answers questions about it when asked, but if there wasn't a huge mea-culpa behind the scenes:

1. LeBron never would've come back
2. Wade wouldn't be in a Cavs uniform..

Anyways, whether LeBron walks after this season or closes his career in CLE, he doesn't owe anyone anything....and he states as much in that article.

I do wish there didn't have to be such divisiveness when asked if a Trump fan could be a fan of his.....he said and I'm paraphrasing :"they can be a fan of my game, but me and what I'm about. No...it's unfortunate"....I think that is kind of unfair. Politics shouldn't be so personal...I promise there are a shitload of Ohioans that love LeBron and only voted for Trump as lesser of two evils in their mind.
I agree, in part. My read was that the quote is being a bit mishandled. I think that he was referring to the actual, racist Trump supporters. The previous question dealt precisely with racists in Ohio, then the question asked about "those supporters." I do not believe he inferred that Republicans can't be fans of his. He is too politically savvy for that. It was just portrayed poorly and now we are here.

Also, I think it is possible for LeBron to still be (rightfully) upset about the letter, but to have moved personally. Does that make sense?
 
Yes, totally agreed.


I agree, in part. My read was that the quote is being a bit mishandled. I think that he was referring to the actual, racist Trump supporters. The previous question dealt precisely with racists in Ohio, then the question asked about "those supporters." I do not believe he inferred that Republicans can't be fans of his. He is too politically savvy for that. It was just portrayed poorly and now we are here.

Also, I think it is possible for LeBron to still be (rightfully) upset about the letter, but to have moved personally. Does that make sense?

Absolutely....that letter, and rightfully so, was a powerful moment in sports history, that showed the mentality of owners and in some respects how the fans view players. Basically as property.....

I'd bet every dollar I have, that Gilbert gave LeBron a heartfelt apology, as he should have, in regards to the tone and mentality of that letter. I'd also be willing to wager that LeBron apologized for how he handled his exit from Cleveland, but I don't think the "two wrongs" were on the same level.

And I think it's important for LeBron, especially with how socially involved/aware he is, for people to understand that even at his level of celebrity/status, look what happened to him when he exercised his right to Free Agency.....for him to just let it go, which I think he essentially has, would be ignoring or deflecting away from a larger societal issue. So while I believe LeBron and Dan have largely patched things up and have moved on, it's an example that cannot be erased because of the societal change LeBron is trying to make. So when LeBron is asked about it, he answers pretty truthfully, but he also doesn't dwell on it. The two times I've heard him speak on it (the barbershop interview with Draymond, and in GQ) I think he's been very level-headed and fair. It hurt in the moment, he'll never forget it, it weighs on him from time to time, but he'll continue to give everything he has to the city.

In a way I feel for him.....because if he were to come out and say, "hey listen, Dan apologized to me 4 years ago, and as a man I accepted that apology and we've moved on".....I think he'd get crushed in the social media world for basically being a sell-out. It's kind of a "no win" situation IMO.
 
Which is fair....I just think it's misinformed to assume he supported Trump.

Secondarily, in regards to Gilbert/the letter, Wade is as thick-headed as they come. I know LeBron still brings up the letter and answers questions about it when asked, but if there wasn't a huge mea-culpa behind the scenes:

1. LeBron never would've come back
2. Wade wouldn't be in a Cavs uniform..

Anyways, whether LeBron walks after this season or closes his career in CLE, he doesn't owe anyone anything....and he states as much in that article.

I do wish there didn't have to be such divisiveness when asked if a Trump fan could be a fan of his.....he said and I'm paraphrasing :"they can be a fan of my game, but me and what I'm about. No...it's unfortunate"....I think that is kind of unfair. Politics shouldn't be so personal...I promise there are a shitload of Ohioans that love LeBron and only voted for Trump as lesser of two evils in their mind.

I didn't read that as him saying that it was unfortunate that some of him fans are Trump supporters...I read that as him saying that it's unfortunate that some people will only be fans of LeBron the basketball player and not LeBron the person/advocate/etc.

Though if I were him I wouldn't care about it either way...not everyone is gonna love everything about him...and I personally know plenty of people that love him more (some of whom weren't fans of his in the first place) because of the political stances he's taken. So to the extent that he's lost fans (if he even has), he's also gained new ones. More importantly, regardless of what anyone might think of his politics, his charitable work in Akron and the leadership he has demonstrated on a variety of issues will be remembered positively long after he stops dribbling a basketball.
 
We don't know what he is. We do know he is a lifelong GOP supporter and rented his facilities to Trump twice. We also know that he donated to Hillary's campaign.

1) Being a lifelong supporter certainly does not mean he supported Trump in 2016.

2) Hosting events equally does not mean he supported Trump, just that he wanted more influence.

3) Donating to campaigns is something many powerful people do. Generally, they donate to both, in order to hold influence. There is a load of political science research that finds, above a certain wealth level, campaign donations do not tell us much about a certain person's political leanings. Thus, this donation, by itself, does not mean he supported/voted for Clinton in 2016.

Put simply, nobody really knows.

This whole thing is so ridiculous....

If LBJ is going to make the politics of fans and the owner part of his criteria, then I hope to hell he leaves at the end of the season so the damn soap opera can end.

Otherwise, can we boot the politics to Off Topic or something?
 

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