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buzzdog said:
Nobody seems to consider what is a very likely scenario... that there is a pretty good chance there won't be any player on the trade market who is worth the Nets pick. There is a LOT of built in uncertainty as so much can change between the trade deadline on Feb. 8th and the draft lottery on May 15th.

If the right player isn't available then there is a very strong case to be made that keeping the pick is in Lebron's best long term interest if he sticks around. As many have pointed out, once the pick is slotted after the lottery it then has tangible value instead of projected value.

Surely Lebron knows that the pick will be worth a lot more just before the draft than it will be at the trade deadline no matter how you slice it, unless the right player in terms of talent and fit is available.
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Agreed. I feel the safest bet is to try and make trades that would get rid of our dead weight (TT, JR, Shump etc) and acquire pieces that inch us closer (some people have said guys like Bazemore, Robin Lopez etc) shore up our weaknesses and who knows? Maybe one the the key warrior players suffer an injury or something.

Let’s say we did in fact get the guys I listed (not sure about the salary, just spitballing here):

IT (healthy) /Rose/Calderon
Bazemore/Wade/Korver
Lebron/Green/Crowder
Love/
Lopez/Frye

Not bad, we’d extend our dominance on the east for a couple more years IMO...and with the way BK has been trending down, what if we land a top 5 pick?

We’ll have a better idea of which players will be available this offseason. There’s no one worth the pick that will be available at the trade deadline...just ride it out this year and hopefully Lebron will see that we still can make moves this summer and entice him to stay. If not, a potential top 5 pick to build around is the next best thing possible for us.

We need youth so we can actually practice throughout the season lol. Hopefully get a better coach too but I’m not holding my breath on that one.
 
TitleTown said:
1 time does not a trend make.
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One and a half - counting the first time as a half because we had no drafting means of getting better short of lucking into Draymond 2 seasons later, or top-tier FA because at the time Wade and the dinosaur didn't want to play in Cleveland, but we wouldn't have been capped out and "over our head with bad contracts," the other half, if we just let his "stepfather," Shaq, etc. walk and basically fielded the same 2010-2011 team as we did plus LeBron.
 
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jdmay21 said:
ESPN Cleveland: Windhorst: I don’t think LeBron will sign a 5-year deal with the #Cavs this summer. He may resign but I don’t think for the max. I am not sure he can trust the organization and Dan Gilbert after the Kyrie Irving trade. LeBron would have preferred they forced Kyrie to play.

– via Twitter ESPNCleveland
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I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that (Kyrie’s) not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.

And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.

http://waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/
 
JMoneyYourHoney said:
I’m just giving you my feel right now and my feel is that (Kyrie’s) not crazy about [signing the full max extension] unless he gets everything checked off across the board.

And the other thing is: if the Cavs ever dream of having LeBron, it’s not going to be with Kyrie there. LeBron and Kyrie have drifted apart in the last few years, even to the point that if the Cavs wanted to get LeBron they would maybe trade Kyrie for someone who would fit better with LeBron. And I’m not making that up. That line of thinking was not originated by me. That’s just the truth.

http://waitingfornextyear.com/2014/04/windhorst-lebron-and-kyrie-have-drifted-apart/
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I agree with the implication that Windhorst is overrated for this type of inside information, but technically those two paragraphs and the underlying premise are largely true. :)

It's also possible that the other premises of that and of Windy's statement today are both true, that LeBron and Kyrie were "drifting apart"/weren't sure about teaming up at the time, albeit it not be an overriding factor in him coming back; but also that LeBron would be against the team caving to Kyrie's trade demands.
 
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Typical Chicken Little posters in the game thread.

I do think he needs to rest a couple of games.

Because of no IT LeBron played harder to start the year than he usually does and it's caught back up to him.
 
Am I crazy.... or did LeBron seem to actively try and lose that game? Some of the decision-making down the stretch was just baffling. The play where he was doubled and refused to pass to a WIDE OPEN Green cutting to the basket, instead forcing a pass cross court to a covered Kevin Love was one of the most egregious things I've ever seen.

Something's not right with this guy right now.
 
Playing like a prick, only seems to be concerned with getting fairly decent stats. No effort on D, has he boxed out all season? Cavs played some great stuff in the first half and then the ball stopped moving, Bron walking it up, no urgency, lazy passes.

They should sit him for a couple of games until he is off his period.
 
Just waive your no-trade clause so we can ship your ass out if that’s what you want. Lebrons been throwing games outside of the win streak and the last Warriors game.

Tired of his crap already
 
czvo said:
Am I crazy.... or did LeBron seem to actively try and lose that game? Some of the decision-making down the stretch was just baffling. The play where he was doubled and refused to pass to a WIDE OPEN Green cutting to the basket, instead forcing a pass cross court to a covered Kevin Love was one of the most egregious things I've ever seen.

Something's not right with this guy right now.
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He purposefully tried to make sure Orlando won that game. It definitely happened.

If I were an authority figure with decision making power on the Cavs I would walk up to the podium, and announce that LeBron is suspended indefinitely for conduct detrimental to the team.
 
He’s not happy.....and his passive aggressive nature has grabbed hold.

I wouldn’t say he was trying to lose that game, but he damn sure wasn’t that interested in winning it.

I guess the question is....is he revolting against Lue, Gilbert, Altman, teammates???

Something is up....
 
The give-away was on the play where LeBron looked towards Green who was wide open under the basket, with the defenders pivoting away from him to rush the passing lane in between LeBron and Love.

Bron looked towards Green, almost instinctively started a motion to pass it to him, but controlled himself just enough to pause, pick his head up, and fire the ball directly into the passing lane to Kev that he could clearly see being jumped by Aaron Gordon. A dunk by Green would have been a big blow to the Magic...and Bron made sure they got a fastbreak opportunity instead.

He did it on PURPOSE. LeBron would head fake and drop a right handed bullet to Green's chest 100 times out of 100. That's not a play he ever would miss or not go for unless it was a situation where the Cavs were specifically trying to shoot a three, it was the right basketball play and LeBron could have made it, but didn't.

He also did about 15 other things on both ends in the last 6 minutes that were nearly just as bad, but that one took the cake.
 
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