LeBron James

[CLEistheCITY]

I think the majority of owners would be willing to spend like Dan Gilbert if they thought that it could win them a title. The Warrior’s owner doing it now. Let’s not act like Dan Gilbert’s bank account is slowly dwindling to nothing....the $32 overdrafts are about to hit! Having Lebron on the team makes his franchise worth hundreds of millions more and makes Gilbert relevant which I’m sure he enjoys.

Yeah, just like the Heat owner did for Lebron... oh wait.

Also, it was already mentioned that the Thunder let Harden go, because they didn't want to pay him.... GTFO with this nonsense.

 

[avs2000]

I think the majority of owners would be willing to spend like Dan Gilbert if they thought that it could win them a title. The Warrior’s owner doing it now. Let’s not act like Dan Gilbert’s bank account is slowly dwindling to nothing....the $32 overdrafts are about to hit! Having Lebron on the team makes his franchise worth hundreds of millions more and makes Gilbert relevant which I’m sure he enjoys.

so there is no problem. Lebron is on the team and Gilbert is spending the money. What the franchise is worthis kind of meaningless. The only way he can capitalize on that is if he sold the team with LBJ on it and locked in long term so it is never going to happen.

 

[weepinwillow]

Just to add to this if you are a Cleveland fan across the board we have:

Haslam: Most likely didn't fire Hue, because he doesn't want to pay for another coach.

Dolan: Everyone bitches about him being a cheap ass. People forget how hated he was, because the Tribe have been doing well lately, but wait until the Tribe go back to rebuilding.

Would you rather have those 2 or someone like Gilbert with a blank check? We are taking that for granted. Look at us just saying "take on (insert players) bad contract." We wouldn't be saying that type of shit for many other owners in the NBA, MLB, or NFL.

I don't know. There is an in-between, no? I mean, Gilbert could spend, have stronger GM's/player personnel in place and steer clear of splashy trade talks etc. no? Letting David Griffin go, who had James' respect, and then following it up with the Irving deal (forced or not) felt really off putting imo to Dan. I am only left to wonder what Griff could have done with Irving either as an asset or as a peacemaker.

Then, Dan shows up at the Trump Chicago Cubs visit.. not really a big deal, but the optics are awful for the owner of a CLEVELAND team with LeBron James on it.

 

[CLEistheCITY]

I don't know. There is an in-between, no? I mean, Gilbert could spend, have stronger GM's/player personnel in place and steer clear of splashy trade talks etc. no? Letting David Griffin go, who had James' respect, and then following it up with the Irving deal (forced or not) felt really off putting imo to Dan. I am only left to wonder what Griff could have done with Irving either as an asset or as a peacemaker.

Then, Dan shows up at the Trump Chicago Cubs visit.. not really a big deal, but the optics are awful for the owner of a CLEVELAND team with LeBron James on it.

There is an in-between and I acknowledge that. Horrible decisions and bad optics. I just can't get behind 100% hating on him. I also think we are giving Lebron too much of a pass. Both times, he could have done things differently, where it would have helped out the Cavs.

 

[billmac91]

It’s crossed my mind if Hornets and Cavs were drafting for one another last night.

If we end up doing a deal for Kemba I wouldn’t be surprised if Miles Bridges (MSU player) comes back, while they take on Sexton to replace Kemba at PG. We take back Batum, Williams, or MKG.

Would essentially be the pick swap, it just came post draft.

 

[LeBronistheKing2311]

It’s crossed my mind if Hornets and Cavs were drafting for one another last night.

If we end doing a deal for Kemba I wouldn’t be surprised if Miles Bridges (MSU player) comes back, while they take on Sexton to replace Kemba at PG. we take back Batum, Williams, or MKG.

Would essentially be the pick swap, it just came post draft.

I thought this as well, and am honestly hoping for this exact scenario. That Hornets deal and maybe either Dwight Howard or somehow aquiring Paul George as well is my ideal.

 

[inliner311]

I don't know. There is an in-between, no? I mean, Gilbert could spend, have stronger GM's/player personnel in place and steer clear of splashy trade talks etc. no? Letting David Griffin go, who had James' respect, and then following it up with the Irving deal (forced or not) felt really off putting imo to Dan. I am only left to wonder what Griff could have done with Irving either as an asset or as a peacemaker.

I think the reason Gilbert is willing to spend so much is because he feels like he is part of the decision making. It's like owning a rental property, if it's place you rent out on a 1 or 2 year lease, you are less willing to do renovations on the house. If it's a vacation property that you and your family spend multiple weeks a year in, you are probably alot more willing to put money into the property because you will get the benefit of enjoying it.

I don't think dumping money into this championship level team nets Gilbert more profits than just a normal playoff team. It might help the value of the franchise but if he isn't going to sell it in the near future, I don't think that is really a factor.

 

[Lumthemad]

I thought this as well, and am honestly hoping for this exact scenario. That Hornets deal and maybe either Dwight Howard or somehow aquiring Paul George as well is my ideal.

The Cavaliers have stated the concept is to retain the pick and that they are excited to have Sexton on the roster. I don't foresee moving him in a Kemba trade. I understand the why of the discussion but the Cavs want to retain this kids talent unless their hands are somehow forced. I don't think LeBron would value Kemba that much more over this kid. Maybe I am mistakne.

 

[WorldFreeB]

It’s crossed my mind if Hornets and Cavs were drafting for one another last night.

If we end doing a deal for Kemba I wouldn’t be surprised if Miles Bridges (MSU player) comes back, while they take on Sexton to replace Kemba at PG. we take back Batum, Williams, or MKG.

Would essentially be the pick swap, it just came post draft.

That makes a lot of sense and seems like a good deal for both teams. Cavs get a really good point guard but still get a young player to groom for the future.
I like it. Don't want the Batum contract and would really like Jeremy Lamb,,,but If it was Kemba/Marvin Williams and Bridges sign me up.

 

[inliner311]

It’s crossed my mind if Hornets and Cavs were drafting for one another last night.

If we end doing a deal for Kemba I wouldn’t be surprised if Miles Bridges (MSU player) comes back, while they take on Sexton to replace Kemba at PG. we take back Batum, Williams, or MKG.

Would essentially be the pick swap, it just came post draft.

I thought that too. Maybe there is a hold up or strategy to not announcing the trade.

Let say we are going after PG13, we most likely want to look low on assets to make the trade. We wouldn't want OKC asking for pieces that we want for our future. We can act like we need certain assets especially if it's a sign and trade situation, to get our cap number below the apron.

 

[LeBronistheKing2311]

If we get Kemba I take Batum if it means we get Bridges. It's a better deal then we received from Boston. As Boston didn't even give up Tatum or Brown. Bridges, Kemba and Batum could easily thrive playing with LeBron and honestly I think those additions make us better more athletic, younger and get us closer to the Warriors. I honestly really hope exactly that deal happens.

 

[stowfan]

The Cavaliers have stated the concept is to retain the pick and that they are excited to have Sexton on the roster. I don't foresee moving him in a Kemba trade. I understand the why of the discussion but the Cavs want to retain this kids talent unless their hands are somehow forced. I don't think LeBron would value Kemba that much more over this kid. Maybe I am mistakne.

From what I'm reading, the Philadelphia front office didn't impress anyone last night, hopefully including Lebron. It's not going made any difference on what Lebron does, but there is no way Lebron doesn't like Sexton. I mentioned Sexton did a short interview with Jim Donovan at WKYC last night. Sexton has a very polite, charismatic personality. Donovan mentioned that after declaring for the draft, Sexton continued to attend his classes so he has a full year of college. His GPA is 4.0, see if he works to improve.

 

[GStera]

How many championships would the Cavs have had if the Gund's still owned the team. You can probably say that if Gilbert had owned the team from the beginning of James career instead of 3 years in that we would have had more championships. Gilbert surely would not have let Boozer walk to try to save a few million dollars.

• Remember when Gilbert didn't trade JJ Hickson straight up for Amare Stoudemire?
• How about when he fired the GM who the best player in the league had a good relationship with?
• Or traded his superstar, in his prime and under contract point guard to our rival for a blown ass 5'7 PG with one good season?

Yeah okay. You Dan Gilbert stans are hilarious.

 

[stowfan]

• Remember when Gilbert didn't trade JJ Hickson straight up for Amare Stoudemire?
• How about when he fired the GM who the best player in the league had a good relationship with?
• Or traded his superstar, in his prime and under contract point guard to our rival for a blown ass 5'7 PG with one good season?

Yeah okay. You Dan Gilbert stans are hilarious.

I was personally very unimpressed with Griffin. He was certainly not a shrew trader. He had lebron to ride and a war chest steeped in draft picks which he give out like Halloween candy. I believe Irving made an issue of wanting to be traded? He sure kicked ass for Boston during the playoffs. Also, he may well be gone after next year.

 

[TitleTown]

CONSPIRACY THEORY:

I think LBJ and the Cavs both know what LBJ is going to do, and they've talked about it.

LBJ pretending to "seriously consider" leaving puts us in a VERY strong negotiating position. IF we are the ONLY team that knows LBJ is staying, then we have information that no one else has.

Rather than other teams thinking they're helping LeBron's Cavs get better, they think that they're taking advantage of what appears to be a team salvaging its remaining assets. And in so doing, they're actually helping us to reload around LeBron.

IF this is in fact going on, it would be GENIUS.