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Hopefully he can be our Korver-lite but it's gonna take quite a few 3s for me to look over that he has been historically dirty
 
Dunleavy is going to get a lot of open looks from three this more than he has had in his entire career.
 
Just Checkin said:
Hopefully he can be our Korver-lite but it's gonna take quite a few 3s for me to look over that he has been historically dirty
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Well he ain't hip checking or under cutting Bron out there this year.

We'll see if he's fast enough to hang
 
Just Checkin said:
Hopefully he can be our Korver-lite but it's gonna take quite a few 3s for me to look over that he has been historically dirty
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I'm all for any players that are going to lay the wood if some dirty shit starts happening to Kyrie, LeBron or Kevin.

Dunleavy and Birdman will go out and "clean up" any mess someone on the opposing team wants to make.

Never hurts to have guys with a reputation of being dirty. Sometimes that is enough to make the other team think twice about being overly physical.
 
I think the term "dirty" gets thrown around a little too often in the NBA. Dunleavy had a reputation as being soft in both Golden State and Indiana until he joined the Bulls at age 32. Under Thibodeau, he finally started to play the level of defense he was expected to provide coming out of Duke. At Duke, he was considered a poor man's Battier on defense with far better offensive capability.

Age 32 is when many shooting guards are retiring, but Dunleavy became the physical player his scouting report claimed he couldn't become. The line between a physical play and a "dirty" play might be a fraction of a second. Sometimes I saw Dunleavy commit a frustration foul, but sometimes that just means a player has a fire in his belly.

Sometimes the court of public opinion has decided if a player is a good guy or bad guy regardless of the actual play. As an old, unexciting white dude playing for Thibs, how much of his reputation was earned and how much was just "Fuck the Bulls style of play?"
 
Randolphkeys said:
I think the term "dirty" gets thrown around a little too often in the NBA. Dunleavy had a reputation as being soft in both Golden State and Indiana until he joined the Bulls at age 32. Under Thibodeau, he finally started to play the level of defense he was expected to provide coming out of Duke. At Duke, he was considered a poor man's Battier on defense with far better offensive capability.

Age 32 is when many shooting guards are retiring, but Dunleavy became the physical player his scouting report claimed he couldn't become. The line between a physical play and a "dirty" play might be a fraction of a second. Sometimes I saw Dunleavy commit a frustration foul, but sometimes that just means a player has a fire in his belly.

Sometimes the court of public opinion has decided if a player is a good guy or bad guy regardless of the actual play. As an old, unexciting white dude playing for Thibs, how much of his reputation was earned and how much was just "Fuck the Bulls style of play?"
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He's dirty.
 
I'll take that version of Mike Dunleavy over this one:

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bigfoot5415 said:
He makes the Cavs unguardable in 2k FYI
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I'm looking forward to seeing the Cavaliers switching defense when he is out there. Offensively, he is similar to Delly but has an extra 9 inches in standing reach... that helps for both disrupting opponent jump shots and moving the ball in half court. So, there's a lot to like about Dunleavy as an upgrade over Delly short-term.

The problem is that age and injury history. Once a veteran perimeter player loses the edge, its a steep and fast decline. If you look around the league at taller shooting guards similar to Dunleavy, the dropoff should have hit two or three years ago. The Cavaliers witnessed the end of Wally Szczerbiak's career. Dunleavy has been a part time player the past two years, I think its safe to say he won't be an 82 game ironman this year either.
 
Randolphkeys said:
I'm looking forward to seeing the Cavaliers switching defense when he is out there. Offensively, he is similar to Delly but has an extra 9 inches in standing reach... that helps for both disrupting opponent jump shots and moving the ball in half court. So, there's a lot to like about Dunleavy as an upgrade over Delly short-term.

The problem is that age and injury history. Once a veteran perimeter player loses the edge, its a steep and fast decline. If you look around the league at taller shooting guards similar to Dunleavy, the dropoff should have hit two or three years ago. The Cavaliers witnessed the end of Wally Szczerbiak's career. Dunleavy has been a part time player the past two years, I think its safe to say he won't be an 82 game ironman this year either.
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Agreed. Though I'm hoping that with Shump, RJ, and Mccrae, on the bench he won't be playing heavy minutes all season. Then like RJ he can go harder in playoffs. I don't think it was coincidence that RJ looked like a new man in the playoffs. These guys are vets that know when to rest and let the young guys do the heavy lifting and when to kick it into high gear.

What I am most excited about it having a guy who doesn't stop moving on offense (at least thats been his game till this point.) add that to KI and LBJ's slashing hopefully he is looking at a ton of easy shots.
 
Randolphkeys said:
I'm looking forward to seeing the Cavaliers switching defense when he is out there. Offensively, he is similar to Delly but has an extra 9 inches in standing reach... that helps for both disrupting opponent jump shots and moving the ball in half court. So, there's a lot to like about Dunleavy as an upgrade over Delly short-term.

The problem is that age and injury history. Once a veteran perimeter player loses the edge, its a steep and fast decline. If you look around the league at taller shooting guards similar to Dunleavy, the dropoff should have hit two or three years ago. The Cavaliers witnessed the end of Wally Szczerbiak's career. Dunleavy has been a part time player the past two years, I think its safe to say he won't be an 82 game ironman this year either.
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We wont need a ton from him to make it work (similiar to RJ situation). He can give us 15 or so minutes a night for 60ish games and we will be more than improved. Because we have so many flexible guys we can keep our starters MPG low, as well as the total games played. Despite lacking a backup vet PG & a legitimate C, we still roll a 10 deep with a bunch of flexible guys. There isnt one guy in that group that couldnt play multiple positions on the floor with the exception of Felder.

LBJ- SF, PG, PF
Kyrie- PG, SG
Love- PF, C
Tristan- PF, C
JR- SG, SF
Shump- SG, SF
Rjeff- SF, PF, and even SG
Dunleavy- SF, SG, PF
Frye- PF, C
Felder

McRae, Anderson, Jones can all come in and do something important if called upon.

To me Liggins & body #15 are the only unknowns, but judging by how this roster was built, he will be someone who is flexible.
 
Y'all know me, I'm gonna miss me some Delly but, that "Edge" on defense should be substituted (you don't replace Delly-D) with Dun and Birdman.
 
My expectation, although maybe a tad conservative, is that either Dunleavy or RJ are always healthy and available and playing consistent minutes.

If the team is counting on both of them to be 20 minute contributors all the time, we're in trouble.
 
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