Next XBOX To Be Revealed May 21st

[Walter White]

 

[Thelorn]

I"ll be getting the Xbox on the controller alone. I've tried to use the playstation controller and just can't use it, the joysticks are oddly placed and the controller overall just doesn't feel natural. I've also tried the knockoff Xbox controllers they sell for playstation and found them all to be junk. Between feeling made cheaply some also have input delays that are noticeable on NBA2k and Battlefield.

 

[AZ_]

Does EA Sports have an exclusive rights agreement with Microsoft?

Or will the PS4 also have Madden, NCAA, FIFA, ect.?

 

[Thelorn]

Does EA Sports have an exclusive rights agreement with Microsoft?

Or will the PS4 also have Madden, NCAA, FIFA, ect.?

They"ll be on 360/One/PS3/PS4 but not the Wii U. EA dropped the online code needed so both One/PS4 will have some type of DRM but Wii U doesn't hence they won't be making games for it anymore. I'm guessing they"ll kill the 360/PS3 support around 2014-15 after the One/PS4 have started selling decently.

The exclusive Microsoft got was that Ultimate Team mode for FIFA, it's the only one they've announced so far.

 

[AZ_]

They"ll be on 360/One/PS3/PS4 but not the Wii U. EA dropped the online code needed so both One/PS4 will have some type of DRM but Wii U doesn't hence they won't be making games for it anymore. I'm guessing they"ll kill the 360/PS3 support around 2014-15 after the One/PS4 have started selling decently.

The exclusive Microsoft got was that Ultimate Team mode for FIFA, it's the only one they've announced so far.

Got it, much appreciated.

Although I know little to nothing about the PS4 at this stage, it's safe to say I'll be sticking with the PS brand this time around after having both a PS3 and 360 last time.

 

[MGMT]

I have always stuck to the PS system. I could never adapt to the x-box controller due to having mediocre athleticism.

 

[Jack Brickman]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...u-must-keep-your-360-to-ever-play-xbla-games/

The reasons keep on piling up not to buy this overpriced piece of shit DVR.

 

[Kizzle]

Damn Xbox One...digital purchases dont go to Xbox One? That just seems like thatd be one of the no brainer easy things to do, WTF. At this point it seems like they made a list of shit they thought we wouldnt like and made a system out of it. Once again my digital library consists of like 1 real game and alot of arcade games I dont care about so it doesnt affect me too much but...........Cmon why do I want to switch systems to play Streets of Rage 2? Just make it work on Xbox one damn

 

[Kizzle]

Lets just keep count of things we think are a slap to the face of the consumer because this thread has turned into a negative shit fest and ppl dont realize everything hasnt been revealed yet about this system.

Used game market pretty much killed
Always on internet for system to work(Still dont know the full extent to this one)
No backwards compatibility, even with digital titles.(WTF)


I think what alot of people are complaining about is a good move for Microsoft. Microsoft's Xbox One will be an ENTERTAINMENT system. I have no problem with them coordinating all this TV and sports stuff into it. As long as its easy to use and trumps me just getting on my phone or computer its good. Would like more stuff about the gaming tho. Will XBox live parties finally be over 8 people? How will Kinect enhance Xbox Live parties? They could definitely make a lil screen when you press the guide button that shows the person instead of the name and avatar. Now obviously you should be able to turn that on or off. I want to watch my friends play sometimes. When is a spectator mode going to come out. Lets say my bud is in a party screaming his head off saying hes having the best game ever and I want to watch? Seems like a next Gen task to me. Or what if im in a league and its like the superbowl and everyone in the league wants to watch it?

Alot of improvments can still be made to the online expeirence. Hopefully at E3 more Xbox goodies are announced. It seems like they are releasing EVERYTHING bad about the system 1st..........They havent released any bombshell GOOD specs yet and I think thats on purpose. Im sure this system has more tricks up its sleeve.

 

[gourimoko]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertc...u-must-keep-your-360-to-ever-play-xbla-games/

The reasons keep on piling up not to buy this overpriced piece of shit DVR.

One shouldn't expect the Xbox One or the PS4 to be backwards compatible in anyway whatsoever. It's simply not reasonable, from a technical standpoint, to expect Microsoft to develop an Xbox 360 emulator from the ground up that would allow even remotely decent gameplay let alone functionality - and in doing so - they would be breaking the 360's ability to continue selling games.

Understand that the Xbox One is a x86 computer - it is no different than the computer you are using now. The Xbox 360 is a PowerPC triple-core Xenon processor that has far more in common with the PS3's Cell than it does with the x86 architecture. The clock speed, and OPS make it exceedingly difficult (re: damn near impossible) to successfully emulate on modern hardware.

What this means is that each game would need to be converted to the new architecture and then re-signed and redistributed - this process would require work on the part of the developer and the publisher and is still an option; however, it should not be expected from either Sony or Microsoft. It is an unrealistic expectation.

 

[Jack Brickman]

One shouldn't expect the Xbox One or the PS4 to be backwards compatible in anyway whatsoever. It's simply not reasonable, from a technical standpoint, to expect Microsoft to develop an Xbox 360 emulator from the ground up that would allow even remotely decent gameplay let alone functionality - and in doing so - they would be breaking the 360's ability to continue selling games.

Understand that the Xbox One is a x86 computer - it is no different than the computer you are using now. The Xbox 360 is a PowerPC triple-core Xenon processor that has far more in common with the PS3's Cell than it does with the x86 architecture. The clock speed, and OPS make it exceedingly difficult (re: damn near impossible) to successfully emulate on modern hardware.

What this means is that each game would need to be converted to the new architecture and then re-signed and redistributed - this process would require work on the part of the developer and the publisher and is still an option; however, it should not be expected from either Sony or Microsoft. It is an unrealistic expectation.

I don't think it's at all unreasonable to expect the digital games that I paid for throughout the life of the 360 to carry over to a new system. It's just common sense.

What's the point of having a digital marketplace if you're not going to be able to keep any content purchased from one system to the next? It would be like if I had to rebuy all my Steam games every time I got a new computer. It's ridiculous.

 

[CornerThree]

I think they could have easily ported over/transferred licenses from the sega type digital arcade games to the new console. The other games and such seem like they would be more challenging. I mean, all they really do for streets of rage 2 is to build an emulator on the new software and then port in the game, can't take that long.

 

[Man Called X]

I find it funny that the majority of XBLA games that were big hits have already have been released on PC, thus defeating the argument that porting to x86 architecture is too difficult/time consuming/etc.

Fuck you Microsoft, the majority of those indie publishers already built it for x86 architecture. Cocksuckers.

 

[gourimoko]

I don't think it's at all unreasonable to expect the digital games that I paid for throughout the life of the 360 to carry over to a new system. It's just common sense.

Common sense is often wrong.

It isn't feasible to do what you're asking. To ensure Xbox 360 backwards compatibility would require an immense amount of software engineering that would take decades to undertake. The x86 platform is still not emulated perfectly and has been around since the 1980's. You want Microsoft, for one generation of console, to emulate their custom PowerPC architecture and virtualize their operating system solely so you can play games that you can already play on your perfectly working Xbox 360?

Of all the complaints against Microsoft, this one makes the least sense. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. If Microsoft could do it, they likely would've done it, but this one simply isn't their fault.

What's the point of having a digital marketplace if you're not going to be able to keep any content purchased from one system to the next? It would be like if I had to rebuy all my Steam games every time I got a new computer. It's ridiculous.

Presently Apple maintains four different architectures under the Mac OS X brand: PowerPC, Intel x86 32-bit, AMD x86-64, and ARM iOS. Only the x86-64 has some backwards compatibility with the x86 32-bit platform but not when it comes to drivers preventing many MacBook and iMac users from upgrading to Mountain Lion due to a loss of driver support. But can anyone expect Apple to port every single hardware manufacturer's drivers to their platform, or should Apple do massive R&D and implement a 32/64-bit abstraction layer (one exists in Linux and Windows)?

So what you call "common sense" is actually what's ridiculous. What you're trying to do is play a Sega Genesis game on a Super Nintendo - that is the closest analogy. Think about how hard it is just to emulate another x86 machine locally on your desktop and then try to envision doing that for a foreign architecture running at twice the clock speed. Xbox One 1.6ghz, Xbox 360 3.2ghz.

Forget it.

 

[gourimoko]

I think they could have easily ported over/transferred licenses from the sega type digital arcade games to the new console. The other games and such seem like they would be more challenging. I mean, all they really do for streets of rage 2 is to build an emulator on the new software and then port in the game, can't take that long.

True, and that might still happen, but that's not up to Microsoft - you didn't buy those games from Microsoft. What Microsoft is saying is that there is no native backwards compatibility. If Sega decides to transfer licenses then that's on them, and they'll be the ones to port their emulator to the Xbox One because it's their code.

The Xbox 360 Sega emulator was based on a vastly superior x86 emulator, so it's likely Genesis emulation would only get better on the One - but again, that's not up to Microsoft, that's up to Sega.