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Racial Tension in the U.S.

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  • Racial Tension in the U.S.

    Votes: 16 51.6%
  • Extremist Views on the U.S.

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • Mending Years of Racial Stereotypes.

    Votes: 2 6.5%
  • Protest Culture.

    Votes: 1 3.2%
  • Racist Idiots in the News.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 32.3%

  • Total voters
    31
Dave said that black people commit 4x as much crime and then said it made a lot of sense that they were pulled over 4x as often. Not seeing that that little fact alone could could account for the disparity. Time and again they drug use and commuting crimes doesn't have a higher rate among black people, but of course enforcement and inccarceration is more severe.

In other words he interpreted that info from the conclusion which he has that black people are more likely t o be criminals.

Pattern that hass been repeated
Dude dont even start.

One is a fact. Google it yourself.

One is saying black people are predisposed to committing crime. One is the communication of literally crime statistics. Do you see the difference?
 
Okay, so I kind of missed the whole Voyager thing. Actually, I deliberately avoided it, largely because I read a really annoying review/preview of it that included the line "and, oh, that bun," apparently written by some chick who must have been identifying as a guy at the time, because no guy would actually write such a thing. Anyway....

So I decided to give it a shot recently, figuring that maybe my Neanderthalic predilections were unfairly biasing me against the show. I was focusing particularly on Captain Janeway.

She was awful. Apparently, someone had told her that the way to project strength was to speak robotically, and clip all your sentences.

But to your question....if you're going to ask me to rank them all, I think the fairest test that could possibly be used is: who would have the best chance of defeating a Gorn on a random, barren planet? My rankings are as follows:

1) Kirk -- because we know he can actually beat a Gorn. Plus, he's Kirk.

2) Archer -- this was really tough, but I figured his ability to slide to different timestreams gave him an advantage over 3)

3) Sisko -- I was tempted to put him higher because of the higher percentage of fast-twich muscles he would have had, but after reading The Bell Curve, I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

99) Janeway -- within 30 seconds, the Gorn would have spilled his seed on her, then devoured her. Not necessarily in that order.

How did I do?
It's because she's a woman, isn't it?
 
I'd rather be on a ship captained by Piccard. I'd rather watch a ship captained by Kirk.

That's interesting..

I'm a huge Kirk fan and consider myself a Trekker before a Trekkie. In my youth, and even as a young man I preferred Kirk just because he was just a badass. But, as I got older, I dunno; gotta say Piccard is just.. better. In a lot of respects. He's not going around banging every chick in the galaxy; which is definitely a negative against him; but, he was still awesome in his own right. And .. I think .. more so than Kirk.
 
Dude dont even start.

One is a fact. Google it yourself.

One is saying black people are predisposed to committing crime. One is the communication of literally crime statistics. Do you see the difference?

Yeah i am well aware of your shtick. You said and stand by the fact that racism is more directed towards white people than black people in 2017.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."

We are only taking you at your word. If you don't want to be judged by the ideas that you express, then there is a simple solution. If you want to be taken seriously, you should be serious. If you want to be looked at as an intellectual, you have to be able to speak on that level. You introduce racist talking points that are well known fodder and that would fit something Richard Spencer would gladly endorse.

I am just taking you at your word. You can't have it both ways.

The old trick, "Not to be a Jerk, but.." If you don't want to be perceived as a jerk, you shouldn't say the part after the but basically. It is your choice how you are viewed.

This tact of yours is especially modeled by our current President. He says a lot of things, but doesn't stand by them, meaning he doesn't take the responsibility for what he said. Unfortunately, when we talk about how he has been changing the culture, this is exactly what we are talking about.

No one in this thread that has defended black lives matter, has every brought up getting rid of white people, yet this is something that you have brought up multiple times. It is a classic racist fear. "If we give them power, can you imagine what they will do to us?!!"

Take your property, take your guns etc etc. I guess you think you are espousing original thoughts? All of us have heard these ideas before, and we know the genesis of them. They aren't new arguments, in fact they are very old. So, yeah you are being judged on parroting some pretty basic racist rhetoric.
 
It's because she's a woman, isn't it?

Oh hell, that was totally the reason I didn't care to watch it the first time around. Then I read that interview talking about her bun, and I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

But a couple of decades (almost) later, I figured I'd give her a shot. And I thought she was just bad. There are some women who could pull that off. Kathy Bates is a hell of an actor, and probably could have been cast as a great Starship Captain. Kate Mulgrew was just awful. Plus, she hooked up with Tim Hagen.

But yeah, it's because she was a chick.

:chuckle:
 
Li
Yeah i am well aware of your shtick. You said and stand by the fact that racism is more directed towards white people than black people in 2017.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."

We are only taking you at your word. If you don't want to be judged by the ideas that you express, then there is a simple solution. If you want to be taken seriously, you should be serious. If you want to be looked at as an intellectual, you have to be able to speak on that level. You introduce racist talking points that are well known fodder and that would fit something Richard Spencer would gladly endorse.

I am just taking you at your word. You can't have it both ways.

The old trick, "Not to be a Jerk, but.." If you don't want to be perceived as a jerk, you shouldn't say the part after the but basically. It is your choice how you are viewed.

This tact of yours is especially modeled by our current President. He says a lot of things, but doesn't stand by them, meaning he doesn't take the responsibility for what he said. Unfortunately, when we talk about how he has been changing the culture, this is exactly what we are talking about.

No one in this thread that has defended black lives matter, has every brought up getting rid of white people, yet this is something that you have brought up multiple times. It is a classic racist fear. "If we give them power, can you imagine what they will do to us?!!"

Take your property, take your guns etc etc. I guess you think you are espousing original thoughts? All of us have heard these ideas before, and we know the genesis of them. They aren't new arguments, in fact they are very old. So, yeah you are being judged on parroting some pretty basic racist rhetoric.
Listen dipshit, every time i get into a "conversation" with you run off when you realize uou cant make a point. You going to respond if i waste my time on you this time? Or should i not bother?
 
Li

Listen dipshit, every time i get into a "conversation" with you run off when you realize uou cant make a point. You going to respond if i waste my time on you this time? Or should i not bother?

Dunno. Sometimes these conversations go along forever, and i have too much work to be on here much anymore. You are always free to respond or not. I usually don't respond to you once I realize you are too dense to understand what is being said.
 
Yeah i am well aware of your shtick. You said and stand by the fact that racism is more directed towards white people than black people in 2017.

"Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."

We are only taking you at your word. If you don't want to be judged by the ideas that you express, then there is a simple solution. If you want to be taken seriously, you should be serious. If you want to be looked at as an intellectual, you have to be able to speak on that level. You introduce racist talking points that are well known fodder and that would fit something Richard Spencer would gladly endorse.

I am just taking you at your word. You can't have it both ways.

The old trick, "Not to be a Jerk, but.." If you don't want to be perceived as a jerk, you shouldn't say the part after the but basically. It is your choice how you are viewed.

This tact of yours is especially modeled by our current President. He says a lot of things, but doesn't stand by them, meaning he doesn't take the responsibility for what he said. Unfortunately, when we talk about how he has been changing the culture, this is exactly what we are talking about.

No one in this thread that has defended black lives matter, has every brought up getting rid of white people, yet this is something that you have brought up multiple times. It is a classic racist fear. "If we give them power, can you imagine what they will do to us?!!"

Take your property, take your guns etc etc. I guess you think you are espousing original thoughts? All of us have heard these ideas before, and we know the genesis of them. They aren't new arguments, in fact they are very old. So, yeah you are being judged on parroting some pretty basic racist rhetoric.
Lers start here.

1. Do you disagree with the statistics i referenced? If so, how? If not, you are a racist by your own logic.


2. I posted 30 articles of anti white racism to whivh you could not come up with a response. Respond to it. White genocide. Is shtick shtick when backrd with black and white evidence? How can you hold the opinion there isnt popular anti whitr racism when i took 3 minutes and sourced 30 articles and a professor at drexel wishing for genocide and literally mtv giving new yeard resolutions for white people?

3. Find me a quote that prefaces my opinion with "dont mean to sound like a jerk but". If you cant, youre a liar.

4. Find me a quote about fucking "guns and property" or youre a liar who has no idea what he's talking about.

5. Espousing stuff like that? Well i dont even talk about that stuff ever, so how do i espouse it and how are you concluding that an opinion i dont share is old and tired?

6. "No one in this thread that has defended black lives matter, has every brought up getting rid of white people, yet this is something that you have brought up multiple times. It is a classic racist fear. "If we give them power, can you imagine what they will do to us?!!"

What the hell are you even referring to?

Cut

I get it. Youre mad at arguments you made on your own and assigned to me. Dont get mad at arguments i didnt make. Thats moronic. Its your own fault and lack of comprehension that got you here.
 
Lers start here.

1. Do you disagree with the statistics i referenced? If so, how? If not, you are a racist by your own logic.


2. I posted 30 articles of anti white racism to whivh you could not come up with a response. Respond to it. White genocide. Is shtick shtick when backrd with black and white evidence? How can you hold the opinion there isnt popular anti whitr racism when i took 3 minutes and sourced 30 articles and a professor at drexel wishing for genocide and literally mtv giving new yeard resolutions for white people?

3. Find me a quote that prefaces my opinion with "dont mean to sound like a jerk but". If you cant, youre a liar.

4. Find me a quote about fucking "guns and property" or youre a liar who has no idea what he's talking about.

5. Espousing stuff like that? Well i dont even talk about that stuff ever, so how do i espouse it and how are you concluding that an opinion i dont share is old and tired?

6. "No one in this thread that has defended black lives matter, has every brought up getting rid of white people, yet this is something that you have brought up multiple times. It is a classic racist fear. "If we give them power, can you imagine what they will do to us?!!"

What the hell are you even referring to?

Cut

I get it. Youre mad at arguments you made on your own and assigned to me. Dont get mad at arguments i didnt make. Thats moronic. Its your own fault and lack of comprehension that got you here.


Just on a very basic level, what are white people under attack for?
 
Just on a very basic level, what are white people under attack for?
Read the 30 articles i posted dumbass. Im not obligated w the burden of ascertaining "why", you have the burden of responding to the fact that this exists.



Why would i come up with more arguments whrn you cant even address the ones ive given? I alot you no more effort until you can address what ive already argued.
 
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@Cavatt i just posted 6 bullets. Go ahead and be respectful and address them.
 
I'm not going to fault someone for responding to political tribalism is by supporting a political tribe of their own. Fact is, asian college applicants should be bitching to high hell about college admissions.
 

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