Racial Tension in the U.S.

[The Human Q-Tip]

Do we have any statistics on false accusations of racism?

There aren't any statistics on the actual number of accusations of racism, true or false. It's simply not possible to capture all that data.

Just to illustrate the scope of what you'd be asking, how many accusations of racism have been made on RCF over the years? Some, certainly, but I have absolutely no idea as to the total. And likely, there would even be disagreement as to whether certain statements constituted an accusation of racism or not. And that's in a place where everything is written down. The vast majority of accusations of racism, true or false, simply are never recorded anywhere.

There is also the very knotty problem of determining objectively which are actually true accusations, and which are not. Do, there is simply no way to capture representative data objectively.

 

[AZ_]

 

[David.]

What's your claim

 

[AZ_]

What's your claim

I slightly disagree with the NRA.

 

[David.]

I slightly disagree with the NRA.

Why?

And how is this related to race

 

[AZ_]

Why?

And how is this related to race

Because their call to arms is not my style, but it's in here because they explicitly brought up race in the ad.

I thought about putting it in the general terrorist rampage thread, but that seemed too inflammatory.

 

[Cavatt]

Why?

And how is this related to race

Where was the NRA on Philandro?

 

[Cavatt]

speaking of bullying

This off duty cop practiced his suspect detention skills on a local 15 year old boy

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/us/lansing-police-jordan-brunson-teen.html

In other news, now officers them selves are scared to get pulled over by the cops

https://www.policeone.com/off-duty/...-duty-Chicago-cop-flees-police-dies-in-crash/

CHICAGO — An off-duty officer and a woman were killed in a fiery crash after the officer fled from police who attempted to pull him over.

I have a real problem with this stuff. What about the one earlier in the year where the guy drags a kid off back onto his property without identifying himself as a cop, and then accidentally discharges his gun after the other kids at the school try to save the kid from a stranger dragging him away from the school.

https://youtu.be/Gdf4r_HiAe4

 

[The Human Q-Tip]

With respect to the off-duty cop pinning the kid to the ground:

A fight involving about 30 juveniles had started on Saturday afternoon, according to a statement from the Lansing Police Department. The mass altercation had broken up by the time officers responded.

Nearby, on his property, the off-duty officer, who was not identified, found a backpack with a hat and a BB gun. He then “encountered a male white juvenile on his property, bleeding from the face” who had been involved in the fight, the statement said. The owner of the backpack was not immediately clear.

As Jordan approached, the officer told both teenagers to stay until other officers arrived. But “the juveniles refused to stay and attempted to leave, resulting in the off-duty officer physically detaining one of the juveniles,” the statement said. The boys were turned over to the police and later taken home.

I'd personally want more details before assuming the cop was wrong to do what he did.

 

[Huber.]

More blood on the MSM's hands. Enraging our youth into shooting cops. Too bad this story doesn't' fit their rating agenda.

Deputy Shot was Picked to Enforce Sacramento RT Security
SACRAMENTO -- Sacramento County Sheriff's Deputy Alex Ladwig was hand picked to join a Regional Transit security team after only four years on the force, his supervisor said.+

Tuesday evening, Ladwig was shot in the face by a man who had gotten a hold of the deputy's weapon during a fight on the light rail platform along Watt Avenue near Interstate 80. The suspect was later identified as 27-year-old Nicory Spann. Spann was taken into custody after a lengthy standoff at the nearby Red Roof Inn and booked for attempted murder of a peace officer.

Ladwig is now recovering in the hospital.

The deputy's colleagues describe him as a "jokester" and a fun guy -- a reason why coworkers gravitate toward him. He and his wife lived in Folsom.

Ladwig was working an extra shift Tuesday when he was shot.

Regional Transit said Ladwig was assigned specifically to patrol the Watt/I-80 station. Two transit officers have now been permanently assigned to the station "to maintain a uniformed presence."

A GoFundMe campaign has raised thousands of dollars for Ladwig in less than a day.

http://fox40.com/2017/06/28/deputy-shot-was-picked-to-enforce-sacramento-rt-security/


Go Fund Me link

 

[Wrathe]

Where was the NRA on Philandro?

Where was Oldsmobile at, too!?

 

[Tornicade]

Very interesting thing happening in this thread that I think is a microcosm of what may be happening in society at large.

I mentioned earlier the importance of distinguishing false accusations of racism from real ones. We can see here that when that does not happen, people start tuning out complaints. So what you have is some people getting angrier and angrier, in part based on incidents that are not really racism, and other people simply tuning the whole thing out because they're sick of hearing allegations of racism applied to every incident.

And that's a very fine recipe for polarization.

the off duty cop incident may very well be a byproduct of racism. its still under investigation.

not sure how one cold declare it wasn't.. you may have not referenced it but the topic was in the post you were replying too.


The problem here is that people feel the shooting officer has to be racist to commit an act of racial biasness.


yet whether the officer hates people of other races has very little to do with it.


The st louis case brings up a lot of interesting question that got lost in people trying trying to "disprove" it had anything to do with racism.

Also this has been a thread for a lot of cop abuses of power . wrongful shootings are just that. wrongful shooting.

I don't think what is going on in this thread is resembling anything going on in society because we have seen with the Mcdouglas case, Officer Yanez and others actions are being taken to create accountability.

In Yanez case.. he may have not been convicted but 3.5 million was paid out to Castilles family. City isn't gonna pay 3.5 million out and be done. they are gonna make changes to how their police department conducts business so they don't have to spend another 3.5 million. it also shows the local da didn't prosecute Yanez for show.. He believed there was wrongdoing and the city settling supports that.

What we have found is that Officers have been omitting information from their reports, Officers have been attempting to cover up for their fellow employees and officers are being prosecuted for it.


and when officers omit things from their police report its gonna create questions like with the nameless off duty cop represented by Police Union lawyer Rufus Tate.
Their legitimate questions not false accusations.

It also seems peoples views on gun control impact their interpretation as well.

 

[Cavatt]

Where was Oldsmobile at, too!?

Oldsmobile is defunct. They cannot help anyone

 

[David.]

Because their call to arms is not my style, but it's in here because they explicitly brought up race in the ad.

I thought about putting it in the general terrorist rampage thread, but that seemed too inflammatory.

They are looking for an angle to sell guns. And, to make the left look bad. They think everyone should have a gun, ideologically and for profit.

All of those events happened, it's accurate. People are getting stabbed at rallies, there have been a couple of people assassinatrd after someone mistook them as Donald Trump.

 

[Wrathe]

Oldsmobile is defunct. They cannot help anyone

Hehe, is that actually true? I've not looked for them, did Buick consume them?