RG3 Out Until 2014?

[The Hill]

WRIC in Richmond, Va. had that posted as breaking news on its RG3 story for a few minutes, but it has since been removed. Probably a snafu with an intern pressing "post" too early. Here is a screenshot:

 

[I-77 NORTH]

Have a source on that? Reports a few hours ago said they will be running tests tomorrow.

 

[Maximus]

That's ridiculous to say it was a bad move by them. Gimme a break, the entire board was pissed when we couldn't get him. You can't see the future, and no one could predict this.

Not the entire board. I may not be able to see the future, but I predicted dozens of times that he wouldn't be durable, injuries would be an issue and he wouldn't be able to finish seasons.

If you dont think he's going to run as a QB you are nuts. He will no doubt have the same injury issues Vick has encountered throughout his career. Michael Vick has played a full season ONCE in his career...he's missed 23% of his games due to injury. Tom Brady has played a full season 10 times in his career, Vick came out one year before him. If RG3 plays two healthy NFL seasons in his career, I will give everyone here $1000.

-Durability - I think there's going to be too much temptation for RG3 to use his exceptional running skills. If I'm giving up all these high picks the guy HAS to be my franchise QB for at least the next decade. In my opinion, I don't see how RG3 will ever have a long shelf life in the NFL...I just don't. Personally, I only want my QB to run when he HAS to, I prefer trying to protect the QB at all costs. I want someone who is quick and can be evasive when need be, but I don't want my QB running 100+ times a season. Yes, he has world class speed, but he's still going to take a lot of hits. Can he sustain them long enough to be healthy over the next decade and justify trading the world for him? I don't know. He's already blown out an ACL once.

I'm convinced more than ever that RG3 will be a member of the Browns. I'm also prepared for a lot of "Suck it, Maximus!" moments when he sprints for 70 yards TD's. That said, if I were to wager, I'd bet that he's not starting at the end of the season for most of the next decade. Trading all these high picks for one guy is a HUGE risk, one I dont think we have to take...unless the guy's last name is Luck. I think the Browns can make a major power move the next 2 years by using the picks, adding through free agency and trades.

I know many of you vehemently disagree. It's just my opinion and nothing you can say is going to change it, so save your breath...i've heard it all. I just don't think he's worth the risk.

 

[godfather]

If I'm the Redskins, I make my entire off-season to bring in more big, huge, offensive linemen. Guys like RG3, Vick, etc, are always going to be prone to taking a lot of big hits with the way they play the game.

No one could predict this, but him being hurt is not going to change unless he changes how he plays(not likely), or Washington at least invests a lot in trying to protect him at the line of scrimmage. I don't care if their line is good, I'd be sure the backups are even capable. He's just too valuable of a player. Don't make the same mistake Philly did, by not really investing much to anything to at least protect Vick at the line of scrimmage.

 

[Jack Brickman]

If I'm the Redskins, I make my entire off-season to bring in more big, huge, offensive linemen. Guys like RG3, Vick, etc, are always going to be prone to taking a lot of big hits with the way they play the game.

No one could predict this, but him being hurt is not going to change unless he changes how he plays(not likely), or Washington at least invests a lot in trying to protect him at the line of scrimmage. I don't care if their line is good, I'd be sure the backups are even capable. He's just too valuable of a player. Don't make the same mistake Philly did, by not really investing much to anything to at least protect Vick at the line of scrimmage.

I'm actually fairly certain that Philly's offensive line was actively trying to get Vick killed while he was there. Maybe they were dog people.

 

[godfather]

Not the entire board. I may not be able to see the future, but I predicted dozens of times that he wouldn't be durable, injuries would be an issue and he wouldn't be able to finish seasons.

Max, I get durability was likely always to be an issue. My point is that ACL injuries can happen to ANY athlete. They're all prone to them, and no one can foresee that happening. Happen to Brady, Peterson, and variety of athletes who have been nothing but durable.

But RG3 having a history of nagging injuries, or being banged up? Yeah, that was predictable, but still not enough to say you don't draft him.

If I'm Washington I make it my plan to build a very strong line to at least prevent RG3 from taking a lot of rough shots in the pocket. I think now he's going to have to change his game to some degree. We'll see how he comes back from this injury. But RG3 to me is NOT Michael Vick. He doesn't have to be a scramble first QB. He can actually stand in the pocket, and deliver clean strikes.

He should tailor his game similar to Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers has cut down a lot on his scrambling, and uses it more precisely. Before he sorta ran around like a chicken without his head too, and was vulnerable to a lot of hard shots.

 

[I-77 NORTH]

Max...

I'll definitely be looking forward to that $1,000 though ^_^

 

[MGMT]

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[Tlyons]

Something has to be torn with the way his knee bent in. He was obviously playing hurt every week since the initial knee injury. He was just going to pick up the ball and his knee folded like a British dinner napkin.

 

[godfather]

You can thank Washington's coaching staff for not pulling him when he clearly injured himself in the first quarter. I'm not a doctor, but even I could see he was definitely hurt, trying to hide it as much as possible.

Then he re-injures himself. They risked 10 to 15 great years with him just for one football game.

 

[I-77 NORTH]

You can thank Washington's coaching staff for not pulling him when he clearly injured himself in the first quarter. I'm not a doctor, but even I could see he was definitely hurt, trying to hide it as much as possible.
Then he re-injures himself. They risked 10 to 15 great years with him just for one football game.

 

[Soda]

I hate to do this because it is sad for RG3, but we're holding injured players against Heckert (i.e. Ward, Hardesty). At the same time, we're not going to credit him for dodging a guy who was bound to have this injury?

DOUBLE STANDARD

 

[godfather]

I would have drafted RG3 with no legs, over that 90 year old Quarterback that we drafted in the first round.

Both would be playing in a wheelchair. Weeden plays as if he's strapped in one.

 

[Maximus]

My point is that ACL injuries can happen to ANY athlete. They're all prone to them, and no one can foresee that happening.

Obviously is can happen to any athlete. My point was that a QB that runs better than most RBs in the league can't refrain from using his 4.2 speed and skills. As a result he was far more likely to get hurt than Luck or any other non-running QB. Even when he wasn't running, he took a tremendous amount of hits. It was very predictable. I predicted it...it was simple risk assessment. As I said a year ago, the Browns would have been crazy to trade all those picks for him.

Max...

I'll definitely be looking forward to that $1,000 though ^_^

Well, I'm safe until at least 2016...

 

[macbdog]

I'm trying to figure out why people are trying to pat Heckert on the back when he was clearly after RGIII, was outbid, and according to Holmgren, the Browns would have upped their offer had the Panthers shopped Washington's final offer. The Browns were just as hot and heavy for RGIII as the Indigenous Peoples. Let's not play revisionist history here.

As for RGIII and injury concerns, yes, the Washington coaching staff is culpable in the extent of his injury- but not for the injury itself. Max, and numerous scouts, were dead right- he was a guy who was going to struggle to stay healthy with the combo of his size and his game, and it has already shown itself. No, he shouldn't have been in the game, but how do we know the injuries weren't sustained on that very first injury? We don't. Point is, first NFL season and he still spent time on the sidelines. The scouts were right, durability has become an issue for him. Frankly I'm glad that the Browns lucked out here and instead of spending numerous picks on a QB who wouldn't be here in 2013 they only spend a late first rounder on a QB who wouldn't be here in 2013.