Ricky Rubio - Take the Money and Limp

[BigZ94]

Oh look he will be training with Barcelona, called it. Not even a month after the buyout

 

[Peacedog]

Oh look he will be training with Barcelona, called it. Not even a month after the buyout

Mental illness remedies have stepped up their game and led to MIRACULOUS outcomes!!!

 

[BigZ94]

Mental illness remedies have stepped up their game and led to MIRACULOUS outcomes!!!

That sweet Spanish air >>>> therapy

 

[DirtyDan]

He's training? That's all?

I guess take your victory lap on the mentally ill

 

[2 For The Brew]

If this guy was playing for us now people would be screaming that CPJ should be playing ahead of him.

 

[BigZ94]

He's training? That's all?

I guess take your victory lap on the mentally ill

Going through a temporary depression and being mentally ill are two very different things

 

[DirtyDan]

Going through a temporary depression and being mentally ill are two very different things.

And you know this is what's going on based on what?

Your posts come off as vengeful and insensitive. This is my last response. Thanks.

 

[DirtyDan]

If this guy was playing for us now people would be screaming that CPJ should be playing ahead of him.

An absolute fact...

Rubio is clearly washed

 

[BigZ94]

And you know this is what's going on based on what?

Your posts come off as vengeful and insensitive. This is my last response. Thanks.

I mean dude just quit basketball to work on an apparent depression and barely a month later is playing again. Not checking into an hospital or something I hardly see how that’s being insensitive to the mentally ill. One of my best friends awas diagnosed with schizophrenia a couple years back, that’s an actual mental illness. He was so depressed that he couldn’t play for us and now is training with another professional team not even a month later… cmon man that’s bs

 

[DirtyDan]

'I was lost': Ricky Rubio reflects on his NBA career and the dark days that occurred

Rubio's decision to retire came four months after he made public that he was stepping away to address his mental health.

theathletic.com

The Cavaliers’ season ended in April with a disappointing 4-1 loss to the Knicks in the first round of the playoffs. Rubio returned to Spain and was met face-to-face by the demons that had been whispering in his ears for years. In his NBA retirement announcement, he said that July 30 “was one of the toughest nights of my life. My mind went to a dark place.”

Rubio had dealt with depression in the past, but he could identify the root cause when his mother passed away. This time was not so straightforward. Yes, the injury was deflating, but he did not believe that was a “major, significant event that caused me that. It’s been small, little things that have been building from the past and eventually catches up.”

All these years later, Rubio wonders if starting so young was the best thing for him, especially if the stressors that started at 14 and accumulated across two decades prevented his one chance at being a kid.

“It’s tough and it’s hard to do because you only have one chance, probably, sometimes in life,” he said. “If you don’t jump on that train, you don’t know what would have happened. But I wish I would have enjoyed more that early stage of my life.”

Maybe that’s why that boyish charm was so evident in his early days in the NBA, the kid inside of him trying to burst out of the fishbowl created by entering the professional realm so young. Eventually, basketball became one of the main things in his life that was holding him back and not giving him joy.

He was stateside because of basketball while his mother was being treated for cancer. He had to leave his wife and newborn son just a few days after he was born to go on the road with the Suns.

Through every bit of adversity, Rubio tried to tell himself, and the world around him, “never too high, never too low.” The conflict inside him finally became too much to bear.

“I was lost. I didn’t know who I was. I had to rebuild myself,” he said. “I think eventually a lot of people have that point in their life that has to rebuild them because they have lost the focus on the purpose of their life. Luckily, I stopped it in time.”

Rubio was surrounded by family, friends, former teammates and basketball people who offered support and well wishes. He started to get help to address what he was going through and has, gradually, started to come out of the fog.

“I know I’m not alone. So I feel like when you speak out, people relate to you,” he said. “We’re human beings, we go through the same things in a different context. Lean on each other, lean on who you love. It’s been a tough process, I’m not going to lie.”

 

[BigZ94]

'I was lost': Ricky Rubio reflects on his NBA career and the dark days that occurred

Rubio's decision to retire came four months after he made public that he was stepping away to address his mental health.

theathletic.com

Losing a parent is of course never easy, and I’m not trying to say he’s making this up, I of course not.

But accepting a 12 million dollar buy out to retire from basketball, due to mental illness or depression, and to then start training with another team not even a month later is not a good look no matter the circumstances

 

[DirtyDan]

DSM V criteria:

Class: Depressive Disorders

Five or more of the following A Criteria (at least one includes A1 or A2)
 A1 Depressed mood—indicated by subjective report or observation by others (in children and adolescents, can be irritable mood).
 A2 Loss of interest or pleasure in almost all activities—indicated by subjective report or observation by others.
 A3 Significant (more than 5 percent in a month) unintentional weight loss/gain or decrease/increase in appetite (in children, failure to make expected weight gains).
 A4 Sleep disturbance (insomnia or hypersomnia).
 A5 Psychomotor changes (agitation or retardation) severe enough to be observable by others.
 A6 Tiredness, fatigue, or low energy, or decreased efficiency with which routine tasks are completed.
 A7 A sense of worthlessness or excessive, inappropriate, or delusional guilt (not merely self-reproach or guilt about being sick).
 A8 Impaired ability to think, concentrate, or make decisions—indicated by subjective report or observation by others.
 A9 Recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), suicidal ideation, or suicide attempts.

The symptoms cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
The symptoms are not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., drug abuse, a prescribed medication’s side effects) or a medical condition (e.g., hypothyroidism).

There has never been a manic episode or hypomanic episode.

MDE is not better explained by schizophrenia spectrum or other psychotic disorders.

Since posters want to come up with their own definitions for depression.

 

[Wham with the Right Hand]

Here is the full column in The Athletic for those who don't have a subscription.

Ricky Rubio reflects on his NBA career and the dark days that occurred: ‘I was lost’

Jon Krawczynski
Jan 29, 2024

Growing up in Spain, Ricky Rubio had a decision to make. At just 10, he showed promise as an athlete and was asked to choose between basketball and soccer.

“The real football,” he said.

He was a good soccer player, and the popularity of the sport in his country compelled him to throw everything into it. That lasted for about a month.

Rubio could not ignore a connection to basketball that ran deep. His father was a basketball coach. His older brother was an accomplished player. But more than family ties called to him. The rhythm of the game, the metronomic beat created by the ball bouncing on the hardwood, was music to his ears. The angles and geometry needed to excel created equations he reveled in solving.

“I decided I miss basketball too much. It’s something that was inside of me,” he said. “Nobody pushed me to play basketball. It’s just a sport that I fell in love with because of how complex it is in all single details in the game.”

Those early, innocent days birthed a career that included Olympic medals, a World Cup title and MVP award and a 12-year NBA career that ended earlier in January when he announced his retirement from the Cleveland Cavaliers.

Rubio also paid a price during two almost two decades in the spotlight. As a 14-year-old prodigy in Spain, he gave his youth to the game in his eagerness to get his career started. He shouldered the pressure that comes with being a much-hyped prospect and endured several major injuries throughout his NBA career that challenged him mentally and physically to such a degree that he could not muster a 13th season in the NBA.

Rubio’s decision to retire came four months after he announced he was stepping away to address his mental health. He alluded to July 30 being “one of the toughest nights of my life” and said the feeling of losing control prompted him to end his career.

For a player who won over fans, coaches and teammates with his charming, relentlessly positive personality in the locker room and his dazzling unselfishness on the court, Rubio’s revelation was concerning for so many who connected with him. To hear Rubio tell it now, his love for the game and playing it was always pure, but his hakuna matata exterior masked an underlying anguish that was tormenting him.

“I’ve always been that guy trying to be positive,” Rubio said in a telephone interview from his home in Spain. “But sometimes it was me lying to myself, saying, ‘Don’t feel that way’ because it might stop you. … Eventually, if you lie to yourself, it can catch up in a wrong way, like what happened to me. So be true to yourself.”

He is not yet ready to make public the exact nature of his struggles. His wounds are healing, but there is still work he is doing to climb out of the hole he was in. What he can say right now is just how deep in the hole he was.

“I have goose bumps thinking about those days when everything was dark,” Rubio said. “I had something clouding my mind that I couldn’t get over. Now I’m doing much better with the help that I needed and building myself from inside-out instead of outside-in.”

Ricky Rubio played for four franchises over his 12-year career, finishing with the Cleveland Cavaliers. (David Richard / USA Today)
It was clear from a young age that the game coursed through his veins. He showed enough promise to suit up for DKV Joventut as a 14-year-old in 2005, becoming the youngest ever to play in a Spanish ACB League game.

He was named FIBA Europe Young Player of the Year in 2007, ’08 and ’09. His vision and passing made him a crowd favorite and his family worked hard to protect him from the attention at such a young age.

“It came so fast and so natural that I couldn’t even think (do) I want to be a professional,” Rubio said. “It was, I am a professional.”

He joined the Spanish national team for the 2008 Olympics and went global with his performance against Team USA in the gold medal game in Beijing. The Spaniards pushed the Redeem Team, led by Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony. Their 17-year-old point guard didn’t back down an inch.

“I was fearless and I didn’t know the wrong side, I would say,” Rubio said. “I always thought about good things and I enjoyed that final.”

His numbers didn’t leap out. Six points, six rebounds, three assists. But as the game wore on, it was clear that this teenager was one of his country’s most important players. Spain fell 118-107 with Wade and Bryant leading the Americans’ bounce back from a bronze medal finish in Athens in 2004.

But the performance put Rubio on the map. Shortly after the game, he needed surgery on his right wrist because of an injury he suffered, but the rush he felt of competing against players he watched on television as a boy masked any pain during the game itself.

“I was having so much fun, I could have played with one leg,” he said.

Rubio and Spain went on to win the gold medal at EuroBasket in 2009. Ten years later, he earned MVP honors as he led Spain to the FIBA World Cup championship. Those teams were Rubio’s favorite, a brotherhood with the likes of Pau and Marc Gasol, Rudy Fernandez, Juan Carlos Navarro and Juancho and Willy Hernangomez. His affection and respect for those men helped hone his approach to the game as he evolved from one of the first real YouTube sensations into a true floor general.

As Rubio prepared for the 2009 NBA Draft, those grainy highlight reels were all that most fans had to get an idea of what this floppy-haired passing savant was all about. His workouts with NBA teams leading up to the draft were shrouded in mystery. When he was chosen fifth by the Minnesota Timberwolves, he was asked in his first interview off of the stage to what player he would compare himself.

“I’m Ricky Rubio,” he said. “I’m not like anybody else.”

That became a mantra of sorts that followed Rubio to the Twin Cities, a philosophy that focused on avoiding comparisons and staying true to one’s self. Fifteen years later, Rubio says that deep down inside, adhering to that credo was much more difficult than he made it look.

“I wish I could have lived by those words. I have tried,” Rubio said.

The celebration on draft night was muted because of the uncertainty surrounding his contract situation in Spain. His contract with Joventut called for a buyout of more than $6.5 million to secure his release. The Timberwolves were only allowed to pay $500,000, so Rubio remained in Spain for two more seasons.

He was traded from Joventut to Regal Barcelona in 2009, and Rubio remembers being booed by Joventut fans when he came back to play there, a stinging reaction to something beyond his control that gave him an early glimpse into the more cutthroat side of the game.

“It has been kind of forgotten because I didn’t want to believe that feeling,” Rubio said. “If I would have believed that feeling, it would have destroyed me. I was 18 years old, and it was super huge for me. And then I realized it was a business.”

So began Rubio’s efforts to not let the outside world know what was happening underneath his boyish smile and enthusiastic nature.

“Maybe because I’m a super sentimental person, but I had to hide my feelings from me sometimes (so I) don’t feel it and it doesn’t stop me from performing at a high level,” he said.

After two years with Barcelona, the buyout finally reached a manageable figure to allow Rubio to come to the NBA.

On June 20, 2011, he arrived with his family at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. When he walked into the baggage claim area, more than 100 fans, team employees and cheerleaders were waiting for him.

“I felt like a rock star,” he said. “I didn’t want any of the spotlight, to be honest. But I wasn’t complaining. It felt great.”

When he finally hit the court at Target Center, it was pure electricity. Teaming with a young All-Star in Kevin Love and playing under an accomplished head coach in Rick Adelman, Rubio burst onto the NBA scene. He threw passes from angles only he could see and teammates would be shocked when the ball found its way into their hands for an easy dunk or wide-open jumper.

In an era where scoring point guards such as Derrick Rose, Russell Westbrook and Deron Williams were becoming the norm, Rubio made passing cool again. Behind the back, no-look, on the run, lobs from beyond half court, anything was on the table.

“That was pure Ricky,” he said. “It wasn’t something disrespectful to the other team. It was more something to have fun with the game. I’m always trying to be respectful with everybody. But at the same time, I like to have fun on a basketball court.”

Behind Rubio’s joyous orchestration and Love’s scoring and rebounding, the Timberwolves were 21-19 and chasing down their first playoff appearance since 2004 when they played the Los Angeles Lakers on March 9, 2012. They led 102-101 with 17 seconds to play when Bryant collided with Rubio’s knee, and Rubio crumpled to the court. The arena has never been so quiet. He tore the ACL in his left knee, an injury that started the Wolves on a downward spiral and changed the course of his career.

“I felt, at one point, invincible,” he said. “Then that injury happened and I said that it won’t affect me. I will come back. I won’t say I was innocent, but I was not thinking that I could fail.”

Rubio missed the first six weeks of his second season while completing his rehab, and it took him another six weeks to start playing up to his expectations. The Rubio who returned from that injury was a more careful player, more deliberate in his passing and less prone to taking risks. He would eventually return to a starting-caliber point guard with some exceptional moments, but he never quite recaptured the magic of that rookie season.

“I always think about that day that I got hurt and what could have happened,” Rubio said. “Everything happens for a reason. And sometimes I think about it. But I was having so much fun that season, I couldn’t believe it.”

Just days before the 2015-16 season began, Timberwolves president of basketball operations Flip Saunders, who developed a close bond with Rubio, died suddenly from Hodgkin’s lymphoma. Rubio lost his mother, Tona, to lung cancer in 2016, a death so devastating that he considered retirement. He tried to keep his chin up while enduring the pain, but it was exhausting.

“I had to perform, I had to play basketball. And that’s what I’m here for. And it’s something that I don’t regret because things worked in a really good way for me,” Rubio said. “But at the same time, I wish I would have been more honest with myself.”

He spent one more season (2016-17) in Minnesota, but he never got on the same page as coach Tom Thibodeau and was traded to Utah before the 2017 draft.

“Looking back in the 12 years of my career, of course, your first time it’s always great. A rookie season is special,” Rubio said. “But that was something really, really special for me, and I think for Minnesota as well.”

The transition to Utah was comfortable for Rubio, who saw similarities to Minnesota in terms of the mid-sized market and quality of life away from the court. He took quickly to the Jazz organization, a tradition-rich franchise that treated its players well and had a standard of expectations that he wasn’t used to in Minnesota.

The Jazz won 48 games in Rubio’s first season there, giving him his first taste of the playoffs in his seventh season in the league. The Jazz beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in the first round, and Rubio thoroughly outplayed Westbrook in the series, averaging 14.0 points, 7.3 rebounds, 7.0 assists and 1.3 steals.

“That was my biggest challenge in the NBA,” Rubio said. “I never took it personally. I always thought about the team and how we could beat them as a team.”

While in Utah, Rubio teamed up with the A Breath of Hope Lung Foundation to raise money for cancer research in honor of his mother. He was active in the community and appreciative of the Utah fans’ basketball knowledge and passion.

“I feel like the fans are a part of the game as well,” he said. “I always try to leave an impact in the community that I play for just because we’re so grateful that we have to be a good role model for a lot of kids growing up and watching us play. We have to use our celebrity to our advantage, that they listen to us more than a teacher or a parent sometimes.”

Rubio spent two seasons in Utah before signing with the rebuilding Phoenix Suns as a free agent in 2019. He spent a year in Phoenix, where he and his wife, Sara, welcomed their son, Liam, into the family and then spent the ill-fated 2020-21 season back in Minnesota, where a heartwarming reunion was short-circuited by the pandemic.

The Timberwolves traded Rubio to Cleveland in the 2021 offseason. After initially having reservations about joining another young team that did not figure to contend right away, he was quickly won over by the Cavaliers. He scored 37 points in a win in Madison Square Garden early in the season and averaged a career-high 13.1 points per game off the bench for a Cavs team that exceeded expectations.

After years of searching for the vibes of that rookie season in Minnesota, Rubio finally started to feel that tingle of invincibility again.

“I reached a point where everything was in a perfect situation. Me being in a team that they need me to perform at a high level, at my prime physically and mentally,” Rubio said. “It was the best I felt.”

That made what happened in New Orleans on Dec. 28, 2021, all the more devastating. The Cavs were down two in the final 2 minutes, 30 seconds of the game when Rubio took a shovel pass from Love and drove down the lane. As Pelicans center Jonas Valančiūnas slid over to stop the penetration, Rubio planted with his left leg and slipped a pass to Evan Mobley. His left knee, the same one he injured in 2012, buckled.

A day after the injury, with an outpouring of sympathy directed toward one of the league’s most well-liked players, Rubio again projected positivity. He posted a video of Bryant urging to “always keep going.”

“What I’ve come to find out,” Bryant said, “is that, no matter what happens, the storm eventually ends.”

It took Rubio more than a year to come back from that injury, but in some ways, his storm is still going.

“I still think I’m not over it, to be honest with you,” Rubio said. “I lost a lot of confidence on why things always worked in that way where I was having a good season with everything in place and, after all the storms that I have been through, and you give me that now?”

The Cavaliers’ season ended in April with a disappointing 4-1 loss to the Knicks in the first round of the playoffs. Rubio returned to Spain and was met face-to-face by the demons that had been whispering in his ears for years. In his NBA retirement announcement, he said that July 30 “was one of the toughest nights of my life. My mind went to a dark place.”

Rubio had dealt with depression in the past, but he could identify the root cause when his mother passed away. This time was not so straightforward. Yes, the injury was deflating, but he did not believe that was a “major, significant event that caused me that. It’s been small, little things that have been building from the past and eventually catches up.”

All these years later, Rubio wonders if starting so young was the best thing for him, especially if the stressors that started at 14 and accumulated across two decades prevented his one chance at being a kid.

“It’s tough and it’s hard to do because you only have one chance, probably, sometimes in life,” he said. “If you don’t jump on that train, you don’t know what would have happened. But I wish I would have enjoyed more that early stage of my life.”

Maybe that’s why that boyish charm was so evident in his early days in the NBA, the kid inside of him trying to burst out of the fishbowl created by entering the professional realm so young. Eventually, basketball became one of the main things in his life that was holding him back and not giving him joy.

He was stateside because of basketball while his mother was being treated for cancer. He had to leave his wife and newborn son just a few days after he was born to go on the road with the Suns.

Through every bit of adversity, Rubio tried to tell himself, and the world around him, “never too high, never too low.” The conflict inside him finally became too much to bear.

“I was lost. I didn’t know who I was. I had to rebuild myself,” he said. “I think eventually a lot of people have that point in their life that has to rebuild them because they have lost the focus on the purpose of their life. Luckily, I stopped it in time.”

Rubio was surrounded by family, friends, former teammates and basketball people who offered support and well wishes. He started to get help to address what he was going through and has, gradually, started to come out of the fog.

“I know I’m not alone. So I feel like when you speak out, people relate to you,” he said. “We’re human beings, we go through the same things in a different context. Lean on each other, lean on who you love. It’s been a tough process, I’m not going to lie.”

In the wake of the retirement, teammates from every stop have praised Rubio for his abilities on the court, but even more for the teammate and friend he was off of it.

“I’m gonna miss him on the court, but he’s a friend forever,” Devin Booker told reporters in Phoenix. “Even though it was just one year, it was so impactful to my career.”

“That’s my championship, I’ll say,” Rubio said. “I’d rather be seen as a good person than a great player. At the end of the day, what people will remember is who you are and how you make them feel, not because you play good basketball or bad.”

As he has pulled himself back together, he has found peace and contentment away from the game. This was the first Christmas since 2011 that he could be at home in Spain with his family.

“Things in life change, but you’re trying to build memories,” Rubio said. “This year was one of the traditions that I always put aside because of basketball. Finally, I could do it.”

Little by little, Rubio is finding himself again. The personal improvement he has made in recent weeks only validates his decision to bring an end to his NBA career.

“Sometimes I wish I could have had a better NBA career,” he said. “Sometimes I wish I would’ve had a championship. Sometimes I think about my career, but at the end of the day, I had a lot of fun. I enjoyed it.

“Was there bad times? Of course. This is not a perfect story. But I learned a lot, I made a lot of friends through this process and I grew up a lot. I enjoyed basketball a lot.”

While his NBA days are over, Rubio has not ruled out a return to the court in Europe. With his mind clearer, he began to think about how his body would feel if he laced up the sneakers again. For all of his trials in the game, he is not ready to say his playing days are completely done.

“I hope not,” he said. “Eventually I want to try it out since I’m doing better, but I’m sure it will be a different me. I will put myself first. I’m still in the recovery process of a big shock, but I know basketball is a big part of who I am.”

 

[2 For The Brew]

An absolute fact...

Rubio is clearly washed

And gone. He’s not on our roster and left some dead money on our cap but that’s not significant. Disappointing that it didn’t work out the second time but we don’t even need him now anyway. Organization handled the departure with class and Ricky publicly acknowledged that. Time to move on.

 

[adam81king]

An absolute fact...

Rubio is clearly washed