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Shaq had successful surgery on thumb -- out approx. 8 weeks (post #586)

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From what I could see Shaq's offensive problems earlier in the season were from a lack of elevation and lift, making all of his shots flat and low trajectory. When he started making them it was because he got his legs in shape, and started elevating much better. His release came from a higher point, giving him a better trajectory.

So it will be critical for him to keep his legs in condition and his weight down so he can get off the floor. If he does that he'll find the range on his shots.
 
There isn't a reason to panic and Cavs can get by and hold onto home court in the East. Losing Shaq for 8 weeks is not a good thing at all though. I don't want to see any wrenches thrown in a championship run.

The biggest concern is having to make adjustments during the playoffs. Not only to players playing well and establishing good chemistry with one another but even more so for Mike Brown figuring out how and when to use players and working out his rotation. We already know that can take a little time and doing it during the 2nd round of the playoffs isn't exactly ideal.

I also have a little concern about increased wear and tear on Varejao and LeBron. AV will now play heavier minutes and be spending more time going up against bigger stronger players.
Hopefully Brown doesn't resort to playing LeBron 40+ minutes every game to cover the loss of another scoring threat in Shaq. This year's better depth and the addition of Jamison make that unnecessary.

The Cavs will still get by fine. I just can't casually dismiss the loss of Shaq for so long (also paired with Z being out for 3 more weeks) as little to no problem. Again, no need to panic, but there should be some concerns that could come into play for both now and through the playoff run.
 
His return day for eight weeks is the 24th of April if I counted correctly.
 
I don't think this will be the case, I just think the idea of rust is way more of a concern than conditioning.

Will Shaq go Stanley Roberts on us? No.
Will Shaq/Cavs need a few games to adjust? Hopefully not.

I just can't understand the people who are concerned about Shaq staying in shape. He WILL stay in shape. His thumb is injured, not his knees.

The only legitimate concern for me is how well he adjusts back into the lineup, which will ultimately decide whether we win a championship or not.

My concern isn't whether or not he will adjust... he will. My concern is involves Mike Brown and rotations right now, when Z returns, and then when Shaq returns. He's got to have three separate and different rotations that started when Z was traded and will not end until at least the 2nd round of the playoffs. Can he handle this? That's my concern. The key will be how he can change up things in the smartest and smoothest ways possible. Another key is how the Cavs can change up the style they play with all the different rotations.

Some are saying how this isn't really a big deal... really? I see it as a major deal. In the year we really do believe we are set for a title, and now this?
 
what if he is back in 6-7 weeks?
 
It's been a terrible year for injures. Delonte and his metal problems, Mo and his shoulder, Powe and his knee, Shaq and this thumb, etc. Meanwhile, teams like LA, Denver, and Orlando have been pretty healthy. The only other top tier team that has had such injury problems is Boston.

Thank god the schedule is weak in March. The team will be all right if they can play well until Z comes back.
 
Anybody with insider care to post Hollinger's article on Shaq?
 
Re: Shaq - out with thumb sprain

Surgery. I smell a complete tear. Anyone can see in an MRI if it is a complete tear. Hand specialists are brought in to discuss options including surgery.

I know nothing of this specific situation, but from the word "significant" to the "hand specialist" to Windy's "in no hurry" tweet, I'm thinking it is a complete tear, which would end Shaq's season.

And perhaps ours in the playoffs.

Let's hope my Cow nose is way off.

Moo

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I was talking about if he could possibily play in the last few games/ first round
If he's able to play that early, they probably would play him. But on the other hand, they won't rush him back, either. I'd like for him to play if possible, the earlier we get him back into the system the better.

It's a possibility, but it would require some speedy healing and shouldn't be expected at this point IMO.

Anybody with insider care to post Hollinger's article on Shaq?
Already posted in another thread

http://realcavsfans.com/showthread.php?t=29157
 
Anybody with insider care to post Hollinger's article on Shaq?

Can Cavs cope without Shaq?

By John Hollinger
ESPN.com
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Looking for a game-changer for the playoffs? Well, we're past the deadline for trades, so those are out, and we're past the point when a team can make a wholesale identity shift. But there's still one big destiny-shifter left on the table: injuries.

We saw a doozy Thursday night, when Boston's Glen Davis chopped down on Shaquille O'Neal's hand hard enough to tear ligaments in Shaq's thumb; amazingly, no foul was called on the play. O'Neal will need surgery and miss six to eight weeks, effectively ending his regular season and suddenly leaving the Cavs scrambling for frontcourt help.

First, let's look at the immediate ramifications.

Cleveland already traded Zydrunas Ilgauskas and can't re-sign him until March 22. Although all indications are that Big Z will return to Cleveland, the Cavs play 11 games before Ilgauskas' eligibility. It's a fairly easy stretch of schedule, but it's possible a few of those games -- at Milwaukee, at Chicago, home against Boston and San Antonio -- could hinge on Cleveland's sudden lack of size inside.

Anderson Varejao will start at center (likely costing him any chance he had of winning the NBA Sixth Man Award), and traditional 4s such as Leon Powe, Darnell Jackson and J.J. Hickson will be pressed into service as backup 5s. It's an imperfect arrangement that leaves the Cavs vulnerable to bullish centers; fortunately for Cleveland, the likes of Dwight Howard and Andrew Bynum aren't on the schedule 'til Z comes back.

After that date, however, Cleveland might still have issues. Ilgauskas, 34, has declined noticeably this season, and although he makes a decent backup for Varejao, he's not suitable for extended duty in the middle.


But as we commonly see with injuries, the biggest problem is not the replacement but the replacement's replacement. Swapping out Shaq for Varejao isn't huge in itself, but it has several knock-on effects. For one thing, it takes one of the Cavs' most effective lineups off the table: Virtually every group that pairs Varejao and Ilgauskas has a superior plus/minus. When teaming those two with the three perimeter starters, Cleveland outscores opponents by a whopping 28 points per 100 possessions.

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David Liam Kyle/NBAE/Getty ImagesShaq salute? Anderson Varejao will do his best to fill in for No. 33.

That option won't be on the table for another three weeks, and even then the pairing will be rare if Ilgauskas is backing up Varejao. Additionally, it forces undersized players into the center rotation until Ilgauskas returns, and Shaq's absence eliminates a go-to option when LeBron James is off the floor.

The Cavs are running away with the East, standing six games ahead of Orlando with only 22 to play for each side, and thus are virtually assured of the top seed in the conference, Shaq or no Shaq. Home-court advantage in a potential Finals matchup with the Lakers might be a casualty of O'Neal's injury -- Cleveland has only a one-game lead, which effectively becomes two games when one factors in the tiebreaker advantage -- but as far as the regular season goes, that's the main concern.

Instead, the more crucial question is how Shaq's absence might affect Cleveland in the postseason.

On this front, the news is mostly good. O'Neal is likely to return by late April, during the first round. Cleveland doesn't figure to have too much trouble getting out of Round 1 without him, even if a nemesis, Charlotte, is the first-round opponent. (The Bobcats beat Cleveland three out of four times this season.)

By the time the second round starts, O'Neal should be back, but his return might come at what could be the trickiest time of the season. Cleveland will be working him back into the rotation while locked in a tough series against (most likely) Atlanta or Boston. Atlanta, in particular, could prove a difficult environment for working a big center back into playing shape because the Hawks' frontcourt players run the floor so well.

Here's the silver lining: By the time we get to mid-May and Cleveland has to face Orlando and/or the Lakers -- the two teams Shaq was brought in to match up against -- the Cavs should have a healthy Shaq. What's more, they should have a rested Shaq. The big fella had missed only five games this season before the hand injury and was on track to play his most games in a decade; the two-month break should allow all his other sore limbs to heal before the games that matter most.

Whether that silver-lining scenario becomes relevant depends on what kind of shape he'll come back in, and how quickly the Cavs can regain their on-court chemistry with Shaq. Newly acquired Antawn Jamison, in particular, will barely have played with Shaq when the conference finals begin, and all the other Cavs will have to adjust to shifting roles when he returns.

If Shaq returns as the force he was in January and February, that won't be an issue. O'Neal played some of his best basketball before the injury, shooting better than 60 percent from the field with nearly 14 points a game after Jan. 1. Unfortunately, he has a habit of letting himself go when he's not in-season. If that happens again and he returns as the slow, plodding Shaq of November and December, the Cavs could have a serious problem.

Thus, although this injury tremor isn't of the magnitude of Kevin Garnett's season-ending knee injury last spring, Shaq's absence could have a major impact on the postseason. Losing him at the same time Ilgauskas serves his 30-day furlough could end up costing Cleveland the home-court advantage in a Finals matchup with the Lakers, and it could sidetrack the increasingly comfortable on-court chemistry among the Cavs' offseason pickups.

But mostly, it could allow Shaq to tack on a few pounds and reduce his effectiveness for the games that matter most. If he can keep up his conditioning, the impact of his injury should be negligible. Based on his history, however, that outcome is very much in question.
 
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