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I mean, like you said it'd be something...not every school shooting is from tactical geniuses with military weapons.

If it's that big of an issue, give the guards rifles. *shrug* Have them outside the school if it's that big of an issue having them inside.

3,100 students at this high school, with an enormous campus.

Not sure I like those odds.

One guard with a rifle is a shit band aid for a larger, legislative problem.
 
I'm legit curious how Australia did it after they had a mass shooting. People gave up their guns through a buyback program or whatever. Murder and suicide rates fell dramatically.

Japan instilled a system of complex checks and trainings with long wait times. That worked there.

Are people still worried about the Red Coats coming?
 
I'm legit curious how Australia did it after they had a mass shooting. People gave up their guns through a buyback program or whatever. Murder and suicide rates fell dramatically.

Japan instilled a system of complex checks and trainings with long wait times. That worked there.

Are people still worried about the Red Coats coming?

Mmmm. I think you know the answer to last bit about Red Coats. They fear two things.

One is the government.
 
Not really sorry if offends anyone. Motherfuckers like this need public executions. You decide to kill kids in a school..........and you live............First off you are a fucking a coward. Second, if you survive the assault..... Public execution. Shooting squad or hanging.


Fuck these snowflakes, kill kids and teachers................. You die in the worst ,most public way possible. Ban me if ya don't agree, don't give a fuck. Brother was a teacher. Feared every day for his life. Punk fuckin kids need to learn.............
 
Not really sorry if offends anyone. Motherfuckers like this need public executions. You decide to kill kids in a school..........and you live............First off you are a fucking a coward. Second, if you survive the assault..... Public execution. Shooting squad or hanging.


Fuck these snowflakes, kill kids and teachers................. You die in the worst ,most public way possible. Ban me if ya don't agree, don't give a fuck. Brother was a teacher. Feared every day for his life. Punk fuckin kids need to learn.............
The guillotine should make a comeback for this type of situation.
 
3,100 students at this high school, with an enormous campus.

Not sure I like those odds.

One guard with a rifle is a shit band aid for a larger, legislative problem.

Ok, so what are we proposing exactly?
 
I think some are proposing a gun ban.... or at least, debating the merits of a gun ban.

Assault style weapons at the very least.

Expanding on the mental health checks and training required to ascertain and continue having a license to carry. Extreme vetting, folks.

National gun registry to get this insane excess of guns off the street.


This has become something of a public health crisis.
 
I think some are proposing a gun ban.... or at least, debating the merits of a gun ban.

At the very least, can we all agree that you should wait AT LEAST a damn month to buy a military grade assault rifle?
 
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So apparently he bought the gun legally.. even though the school knew he had behavioral problems,was threatening people and joking about shooting kids at school, was seeing a counselor, and stopped going..

So how do we control access to guns by people with demonstrable mental issues.. ?
 
3,100 students at this high school, with an enormous campus.

Not sure I like those odds.

One guard with a rifle is a shit band aid for a larger, legislative problem.

I don't know how else to put this....

1) There are over 300 million guns in this country right now. Even if you could pass the legislation you wanted today, you would still have to take steps to deal with the reality that guns and ammo will be easily accessible to lawbreakers for a very long time. So whatever your legislative solution is, it needs to address that reality.

2) Nobody is arguing that crazy people should have access to guns. The problem is that at the state level, we do a really shitty job of getting nutty people into the federal database. That needs to be fixed.

2) For a school that size, you probably should have 3-5 security if there are multiple buildings. They wouldn't need rifles -- pistols would be enough. The purpose wouldn't be to "take down" a shooter. But as soon as they start returning fire, the threat to the students is pretty much over because the shooter no longer has free rein. Their job would be to isolate/contain/delay the shooter until cops arrive. Otherwise, the entire campus is completely vulnerable not only to lone nutbags, but to lone wolf terrorists.

3. The focus on "assault weapons" is...ridiculous. The overwhelming majority of gun homicides in this country are committed with handguns. In fact, under federal law, you only need to be 18 to purchase a long-rifle, but 21 to purchase a handgun. If you have someone who wants to kill large numbers people in a school, and they can't get an rifle, they'll just go in packing multiple, easily concealed handguns and be able to kill just about the same number of people because the shooting is almost always at extremely close ranges where the additional accuracy of a rifle isn't necessary.

4.The FBI was warned specifically about this guy last September, where he posted on social media that he was going to be a professional school shooter.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/briannasac...-threat-from?utm_term=.foalM6zpGV#.uqXzr04L38

I haven't yet seen details about what they actually did in response, so that should be interesting to see.
 
So apparently he bought the gun legally.. even though the school knew he had behavioral problems,was threatening people and joking about shooting kids at school, was seeing a counselor, and stopped going..

So how do we control access to guns by people with demonstrable mental issues.. ?

That is a state/local issue. The people with knowledge of his condition have to report it, and then local authorities need to follow up on it. That doesn't happen nearly as often as it should.
 
At the very least, can we all agree that you should wait AT LEAST a damn month to buy a military grade assault rifle?

He didn't have a military grade assault rifle. This is where the ignorance of guns comes in. A military grade assault rifle has some form of automatic fire - the ability to spray multiple bullets with a single pull of the trigger. An AR-15 that you buy in a store does not do that. If you want to buy a weapon with automatic capability, you have to undergo a more extensive background check and spend a whole lot of money for a different license.

He had a semi-automatic weapon that functions the same as any semi-automatic pistol. You have to pull the trigger separately each time to fire a bullet.
 

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