The Jarvis Landry Thread: Bless 'Em

[FiveThous]

How about after Hue/Haley were fired? Don't really care what happened before.

Did they change the Pro Bowl voting to only a half season? In all seriousness, the site I use (PlayerProfiler) doesn't have a way to break down games, it's only accumulated season totals.

 

[FiveThous]

Well that settles it then. Perriman clearly the best WR on the team.

Now you get it!

 

[Jack Brickman]

I don't think he was really worthy of getting into the Pro Bowl this year, but it's also not like the Pro Bowl really matters.

 

[Lee]

Now you get it!

Landry and Mayfield will be better at timing.

Perriman is almost a must keep to me, he really is going to flourish next year, we will have 4 strong receivers with no clear number one, but Calloway has a chance to develop into a number one receiver imo.

If we can keep Perriman, I don't see the need to go WR early.

 

[CBBI]

Not deserved whatsoever, but good for him.

 

[Soda]

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland...is-Landrys-First-Year-in-Cleveland-127908374/

There's plenty more there than most lead on. Just a weird POV to have a slight against a player on your own team.

 

[CBBI]

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland...is-Landrys-First-Year-in-Cleveland-127908374/

There's plenty more there than most lead on. Just a weird POV to have a slight against a player on your own team.

Bang for your buck.

Landry is the 7th highest paid WR in the NFL and wasn't even the best pass catcher on his own team.

If he was making 5M, people wouldn't really care as much. The Browns paid a premium price and didn't get anywhere close to premium production. It's as simple as that.

 

[Soda]

Bang for your buck.

Landry is the 7th highest paid WR in the NFL and wasn't even the best pass catcher on his own team.

If he was making 5M, people wouldn't really care as much. The Browns paid a premium price and didn't get anywhere close to premium production. It's as simple as that.

Fortunately for Landry, he's able to bring more than catches, YAC, and TDs. There isn't a stat for it, but it has everything to do with why he was traded for in the first place. Including him being the 5th best blocking receiver in the game.

 

[FiveThous]

Fortunately for Landry, he's able to bring more than catches, YAC, and TDs. There isn't a stat for it, but it has everything to do with why he was traded for in the first place. Including him being the 5th best blocking receiver in the game.

14m for an inefficient, premier blocking WR with cheesy, fake ass motivational speeches? Probably about a $12M overpay annually.

 

[chrisrich91]

14m for an inefficient, premier blocking WR with cheesy, fake ass motivational speeches? Probably about a $12M overpay annually.

He spent training camp and half the season working under trash coaching. He was one of the guys at the helm of changing the attitude and culture of this organization. Also we have a billion dollars in cap space and we can get out of his deal pretty easily if the time comes when we need to create cap room.

I’d like to see him improve upon this year in season 2 with the Browns too. But I don’t understand how anyone could be that opposed to Landry right now unless they dislike him on a personal level for some reason.

 

[Sebastian]

Bang for your buck.

Landry is the 7th highest paid WR in the NFL and wasn't even the best pass catcher on his own team.

If he was making 5M, people wouldn't really care as much. The Browns paid a premium price and didn't get anywhere close to premium production. It's as simple as that.

The Browns knew he is no WR1. Paid him like one anyway.

Why blame Landry? He did this season what he always does; solid WR2 work.

Blame Dorsey.

 

[FiveThous]

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He spent training camp and half the season working under trash coaching. He was one of the guys at the helm of changing the attitude and culture of this organization. Also we have a billion dollars in cap space and we can get out of his deal pretty easily if the time comes when we need to create cap room.

I’d like to see him improve upon this year in season 2 with the Browns too. But I don’t understand how anyone could be that opposed to Landry right now unless they dislike him on a personal level for some reason.

I've argued many a times on here he's a solid#2 and excellent #3 option. This board for whatever reason, defends him like he's an alpha dog #1, regardless of the mountains of stats proving he's a hindrance to an offense when he's the main guy being targeted.

Humans aren't rational, I get it. I don't want to keep this circular argument going any longer, so I'll take a step back.

 

[AZ_]

He's not going to be a #1 this year either, guys.

While the Browns don't have or will currently be developing a potential #1, they can give Landry that type of money.

But lets not make him out to be something he's not. He's a culture changer, a sometimes leader, but he's not a #1 or something resembling one.

 

[Soda]

He's not going to be a #1 this year either, guys.

While the Browns don't have or will currently be developing a potential #1, they can give Landry that type of money.

But lets not make him out to be something he's not. He's a culture changer, a sometimes leader, but he's not a #1 or something resembling one.

He's not an "X". That doesn't mean he's not worth what they're paying and it doesn't mean that he's not a great receiver. Fans with tunnel vision only care about the "X" guy and the stats that come along with that position.

It's just weird to not like a near 1,000 yard receiver because you're in the owner's wallet and you took a stand on a hill early on about a guy and won't come off it. Even after he's widely considered a good decision.

 

[natedagg]

He's not an "X". That doesn't mean he's not worth what they're paying and it doesn't mean that he's not a great receiver. Fans with tunnel vision only care about the "X" guy and the stats that come along with that position.

It's just weird to not like a near 1,000 yard receiver because you're in the owner's wallet and you took a stand on a hill early on about a guy and won't come off it. Even after he's widely considered a good decision.

I think the Landry value assessment demands some context. We were coming off of a winless season and Dorsey had a quote like “you have to get some big names in FA so that people view the team differently.” It was more complex and prescient the way he presented it, but it applies in this case. Juice was a team leader in a locker room that SORELY lacked leadership and direction. He’s an advocate and he’s proud of the team. If Landry’s contract is part of the cost to change the locker room, coming from a team that had a head coach use us as a threat of where he’d send bad players, then I think it was a good signing.

That said, he might not play out his contract. Tough choices will have to be made. I think the decision is easy to keep him this year, and with schematic changes and Baker’s growth, along with other receiving targets’ emergence providing gravity that should free him up, Juice will have plenty of opportunities to prove the doubters wrong. There’s only 1 ball, but if his advanced stats and “little things” stats are great, then he’ll stay.

In short, we can’t judge his contract worth yet, but give where we were at when we signed him, I think it had to be done.