The Official Game of Thrones [A Song of Ice and Fire] Thread (includes spoilers)

[Ohio]

The problem isn't really this episode itself, it wasn't bad at all and was much better than the first. It's that there's only 4 episodes left to do a whole fucking lot of shit.

Feel like they could have easily meshed episode 1 and 2 together and not missed anything.

Battle of Winterfell better be Hardhome on steroids.

 

[Chris]

I'd expect a good number of Tormund, Podrick, Brienne, Grey Worm, Jorah, Lyanna Mormont, Yohn Royce, Jaime, Ghost, Beric, Edd, Bran, and Theon to die next week. Some of those characters have been with us for 5+ seasons.

I liked the final sendoff they gave the majority of them since next week is going to make the Red Wedding look like a carnival, although they probably could have just extended episode one by about another thirty minutes and merged these two episodes.

Here's my thing. How are they going to do justice or make any of these people dying actually memorable?

Wight #232 stabs Podrick, he dies. I mean, it's just going to be a mess. I get it that this was kind of their send off before the many deaths coming next week, but sheesh.

 

[Triplethreat]

I mean, the next episode is literally the length of a full length film. I think they'll fit it in.

1 hour and 22 min with 20-30 min being desicated strictly to battle scenes.

I think you’re delusional.

 

[Rich]

Again:

Season 1, Episode 1, Scene 1: Whitewalkers.

Prologue of Book 1: Whitewalkers.


Everything after that was a sideshow, something to distract you AND the characters from the problem.


They won't be defeated next episode and by the end pretty much everyone that matters is gonna realize the Throne was unimportant.

 

[Jack Brickman]

I'd expect a good number of Tormund, Podrick, Brienne, Grey Worm, Jorah, Lyanna Mormont, Yohn Royce, Jaime, Ghost, Beric, Edd, Bran, and Theon to die next week. Some of those characters have been with us for 5+ seasons.

I liked the final sendoff they gave the majority of them since next week is going to make the Red Wedding look like a carnival, although they probably could have just extended episode one by about another thirty minutes and merged these two episodes.

I don't see any chance that Jaime dies next week. Most of the others you mentioned probably will, though.

 

[Chris]

I mean, the next episode is literally the length of a full length film. I think they'll fit it in.

Yeah, but there's gonna be a lot of teleporting I'm guessing.

 

[Triplethreat]

I hope this is wrong because what a very under developed storyline the Night King would be. No real hashed out motivation. Great army destroyed in one episode. Would feel really hollow.

But they hashes out the motive this episode.....

Or at least they want you to buy that
sorry ass excuse of a motive.

Bran just tells us all that’s what he wants. And it’s not well thought out at all. It doesn’t even dig on any of the WW lore and is so unimaginative its silly.

 

[Amherstcavsfan]

1 hour and 22 min with 20-30 min being desicated strictly to battle scenes.

I think you’re delusional.

What the fuck else do you want them to do?

Literally all the exposition, all the story, everything has been building up to THIS battle.

What more information/scenes/filler do you want without just getting the fucking battle done with?

It's going to be 1 hour and 22 minutes of people dying. I'll expect your forgiveness after next week. You think these people that are running this show are dumb?

Nah, this was the final goodbye to, at least, 10 major characters, IMO. It's going to be the Red Wedding x1000.

 

[Stark]

Here's my thing. How are they going to do justice or make any of these people dying actually memorable?

Wight #232 stabs Podrick, he dies. I mean, it's just going to be a mess. I get it that this was kind of their send off before the many deaths coming next week, but sheesh.

I kind of think that is why they did tonight's episode like the way they did. It's going to be chaos next week, and even major characters getting killed off might just get brushed under the rug in the mess, so that's why they did tonight's episode like this and gave a lot of these tier two characters a lot of good moments.

- Podrick sang the outro pretty much
- Brienne was knighted
- Theon got his reuinion with the Starks and vowed to defend Bran to the death after taking everything from them in season two
- Grey Worm and Missandei made their plans for when the war is over
- Tormund got plenty of Tormund moments
- Edd reminiscing with Sam/Jon about the Night's Watch and how they're literally the last remnants of a former elite order

It was done on purpose. Not saying I agree with it, but I guess that's what happens when they choose to wrap everything up in the thirteen episodes. If they would have just made the first episode 80 minutes like they're doing for the last four, I think they could have squeezed all of this in, but oh well.

 

[Rich]

And even in those previews they STILL didn't show the Army of Dead attacking. Nor the Night King.

Now why, with them sitting RIGHT outside, haven't they shown them ACTUALLY fighting? What's the big secret in all of these previews?


Maybe I'm way off but SOMETHING is gonna come outta left field. Either the Night King isn't there or the Golden Company is coming first.


I mean Brienne screams to "STAND YOUR GROUND" and.................we don't see them come charging through.

They've been hiding them and hiding them from all of these battle preview scenes and I just...I dunno. It feels like its purposeful.

 

[Chris]

I kind of think that is why they did tonight's episode like the way they did. It's going to be chaos next week, and even major characters getting killed off might just get brushed under the rug in the mess, so that's why they did tonight's episode like this and gave a lot of these tier two characters a lot of good moments.

- Podrick sang the outro pretty much
- Brienne was knighted
- Theon got his reuinion with the Starks and vowed to defend Bran to the death after taking everything from them in season two
- Grey Worm and Missandei made their plans for when the war is over
- Tormund got plenty of Tormund moments
- Edd reminiscing with Sam/Jon about the Night's Watch and how they're literally the last remnants of a former elite order

It was done on purpose. Not saying I agree with it, but I guess that's what happens when they choose to wrap everything up in the thirteen episodes. If they would have just made the first episode 80 minutes like they're doing for the last four, I think they could have squeezed all of this in, but oh well.

I do agree with all this. I'm not trying to be a downer, I'm just very heavily invested in this story and I know a bad ending can ruin the whole thing. We've seen it before....

If the Night King is nothing more than an unstoppable force of death, who ends up getting stopped by some deus ex machina bullshit, that will literally ruin this story for me. Well, almost, anyways.

I do like what Rich said about the Throne not mattering. If they can hammer home that point which I think is a very very powerful message, they can make it effective. But we still as of today have Dany bitching about the Throne just as the Night King is about to slap his dick on the table.

 

[Ohio]

But they hashes out the motive this episode.....

Or at least they want you to buy that
sorry ass excuse of a motive.

Bran just tells us all that’s what he wants. And it’s not well thought out at all. It doesn’t even dig on any of the WW lore and is so unimaginative its silly.

Yeah, this was disappointing. Felt like this was the moment for Bran to tell us all wtf is really going on.

I fear we are never going to get that now, which is a bummer.

 

[Stark]

And even in those previews they STILL didn't show the Army of Dead attacking. Nor the Night King.

Now why, with them sitting RIGHT outside, haven't they shown them ACTUALLY fighting? What's the big secret in all of these previews?


Maybe I'm way off but SOMETHING is gonna come outta left field. Either the Night King isn't there or the Golden Company is coming first.


I mean Brienne screams to "STAND YOUR GROUND" and.................we don't see them come charging through.

They've been hiding them and hiding them from all of these battle preview scenes and I just...I dunno. It feels like its purposeful.

I don't think the Golden Company is going to be the threat next week. I've seen theories that this isn't the Night King's entire force and he may be heading down to the Kings Landing area with his dragon, but they're definitely going to be fighting wights next week. 100%.

Hell, King's Landing literally has zero defense against just the Night King and his dragon. He could ruin that entire city if given enough time.

 

[Triplethreat]

What the fuck else do you want them to do?

Literally all the exposition, all the story, everything has been building up to THIS battle.

What more information/scenes/filler do you want without just getting the fucking battle done with?

It's going to be 1 hour and 22 minutes of people dying. I'll expect your forgiveness after next week. You think these people that are running this show are dumb?

Nah, this was the final goodbye to, at least, 10 major characters, IMO. It's going to be the Red Wedding x1000.

It’s not even about that.

The time could’ve been used so much more efficiently to dive into the NK’s back story and give us a look into his motive.

I’ve just lost faith in the writing as a whole. Have a sneaky feeling this all works out for our beloved hero’s and the main cogs (Jon, Dany, Sansa) end up in a very predictable fashion. Alive and in leadership after defeating the NK and Cersei

 

[Rich]

Anyway, death predictions:

Jorah. This was Jorah's big, giant "I'm redeemed" episode. Full redemption. Acceptance by his house. Daenerys tells him she forgave him long ago. He gets a Valyrian blade again. Jorah. Is. Dead.

I'll think of the rest but that one is like a for sure, goner.