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1) Your business, your right, and I hope you rot in hell. I won't take my business there and we all have a right to protest its existence.
2) See above

Okay...

3) Housing gets into a different set of things. Housing laws I'm okay with being stricter.

But this seems like an arbitrary distinction. If my business is an apartment complex, hell, what if my business is my home, it's a duplex, and I live on the first floor. I don't want Asians or Jews on the second floor. Is that okay?

4) That's a safety issue subject to health code and inspections

Safety issue according to who? It's my business, it's my property. Who can tell me what is or isn't safe? The customers all know walking into the door what the situation is.. For example, I don't change the grease in my cookers.. but I cook open air, in front of everyone, and no one has gotten sick -- who is to tell me to buy new grease? ... I have roaches throughout the kitchen, it's no secret .. who can tell me that's not okay? It's my establishment, right?

5) If it's a contract, I have no issues with employees working for less than minimum wage. I'm not economist, however, and that would probably have bad effects that were probably originally legislated against.

I see.

6) Your money was made in our country. If you don't want to pay taxes, start your own.

Wait, I don't understand... I created my own wealth from money that I wasn't paying taxes on. Taxing of money itself isn't the issue .. you can inflate or deflate your currency as you see fit. I'm talking about taxes on transactions. I'm not paying sales tax, or any form of tax for that matter. It's MY property, by any definition it's my property. I own it. Will you put a gun to my head and take it away by force?

*Obviously "you" is not @gourimoko here.

No of course, I mean, we're just exploring this topic with thought experiments.. doing some critical analysis.. Think about the above scenarios, and I'd be curious to hear your response?

Because, as I see it, I'm not sure if there are not some ad hoc/arbitrary distinctions being made.. For example, if property rights are absolute, and that's where the notion comes from that a business can discriminate or underpay it's staff or not hire Jews or Blacks, then, it seems to be reasonable that said business can refuse to pay taxes too - or refuse to adhere to zoning codes, or health codes, or climate regulations, or safety standards?

So my question is, where does society draw the line, and why? Why draw the line with housing and not hotels? And what about sexual exploitation (i.e., suck my dick for this job/raise or to keep your job or raise?)?

I mean, to be fair Cassity, our society used to be this way, and we put in place laws and regulations to make life better for everyone -- it's why we have the society we have today, instead of the one we had 100 years ago where an employer or manager could openly demand sexual favors, discriminate upon any basis, underpay staff, and exploit workers, or where minorities couldn't get fair and equal housing.
 
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So maybe being president isn't one of those "So easy a caveman can do it!" things? :chuckle:
 

What.... the fuck .. is he talking about??

Japan attacking the United States was idiotic.. There were numerous solutions to the Japanese immediate military concerns, and the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor was a monumental risk that ultimately backfired and cost the Japanese everything. They not only lost the war, but their entire culture and way of life was lost... I'm not arguing it's either good or bad that this happened, but I reject the notion that Japans attack on the United States demonstrated any sort of brilliance. It was strategically shortsighted and foolish.
 
But because the information about Moore "happened" to break in that short period between the primary and the election, there won't be another special election. There's just this election, and the seat would get handed to Jones by default until 2021, with the voters being told that's Jones is the choice they have to make because Moore is a scumbag.

What in there was a conspiracy? That's all fact.

The only speculation in there is regarding the timing of the disclosures. I don't believe that the disclosures are false -- I just believe that NBC deliberately waited until after the primary to run with the story. But whether that is true or not doesn't change the point that the GOP voters who voted in the primary did not know they were voting for a guy with all those pedo accusations against him. And they are now -- again this is all fact -- being told that they are immoral unless they de facto help Jones get elected.

The best way to have a result that actually reflect what those voters want is to have another election next November. And the only way to make that happen is to elect Moore, and then give him the boot.
 
What.... the fuck .. is he talking about??

Japan attacking the United States was idiotic...but I reject the notion that Japans attack on the United States demonstrated any sort of brilliance. It was strategically shortsighted and foolish.

That tweet said nothing about the strategic wisdom of attacking the U.S.. In terms of military professionalism, it was brilliant. It was a mass, coordinated, multi-continent surprise strike that not only crippled much of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, but also isolated and subsequently destroyed major Royal Navy assets. That's extremely difficult. The Japanese also demonstrated superior technology in terms of their carrier-borne aircraft and armaments.
 
That tweet said nothing about the strategic wisdom of attacking the U.S.. In terms of military professionalism, it was brilliant. It was a mass, coordinated, multi-continent surprise strike that not only crippled much of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, but also isolated and subsequently destroyed major Royal Navy assets. That's extremely difficult. The Japanese also demonstrated superior technology in terms of their carrier-borne aircraft and armaments.

Ahem.

It was the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor. The Luftwaffe was brilliant.

Reliable sources.
 
Al Franken hasn't resigned. He said he will resign in the coming weeks.
He may change his mind.
 
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