Trade Rumor(s)

[BimboColesHair]

A bit is putting it nicely. His minutes would be cut in half, probably. At least.


We'll see.

I just don't see him accepting the role of regular season mercenary.

As I mentioned above...my want isn't exclusive to just Rondo.

I want a guy who can run the bench and not force those extra minutes on LeBron in the regular season.

I also want that guy without giving up draft capital or player rights (save those for a wing).

So who is the best player who will be potentially available for a vet minimum contract right now who can do just that? Chalmers coming off an Achilles tear? Jack coming off an ACL tear? Both of those guys might not be able to play at all, we don't know. Norris Cole who is MIA?

Rondo is, potentially, the best option right now...only reason I am arguing for him. If another one comes along, I'll probably argue for them as well.

 

[Jordan]

To be fair to Delly, I think the injury he sustained against Detroit affected him in The Finals. He wasn't close to the same player as he was the prior calendar year. I'll never believe Mo and Dahntay were deployed in those crucial games over a healthy Delly.

Delly fit incredibly well and had tremendous chemistry with LeBron and Tristan, among others. I understood the decision not to match Delly (and still do) but it's certainly having an impact right now.

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To be fair, I think Gour probably agrees with this. What he was saying is that the Cavs ultimately decided we do not need Delly to beat the Warriors, and thus, did not pay his contract. Gour, myself, and others have noted the problem with this logic... Nonetheless, if you can't play against Golden State, odds are you won't be pursued by our front office.

 

[Walter White]

Can I ask you, what is Rondo doing while we're playing Golden State?

Scouting the Spurs for the playoffs.

 

[gourimoko]

Scouting the Spurs for the playoffs.

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[gourimoko]

To be fair, I think Gour probably agrees with this. What he was saying is that the Cavs ultimately decided we do not need Delly to beat the Warriors, and thus, did not pay his contract. Gour, myself, and others have noted the problem with this logic... Nonetheless, if you can't play against Golden State, odds are you won't be pursued by our front office.

Exactly.

 

[kookoo]

I don't know. My guess is he can still log meaningful minutes in the playoffs (near 20) until it dwindles to near 10 in the finals should we face GS.

All depends on how he handles his minutes in game 1 and if other guys struggle in the moment like JR and Shump did for most of the series. Or if we get hit with injuries. Remember when James Jones played 20 minutes a game against Golden State in the 2015 finals? Get the best player regardless. If he's good enough, he'll take minutes away from guys who don't deserve their minutes. Instead of Shump playing backup point, Rondo would get those minutes. Shump could play the Liggins role as a starter or fall out of the rotation. It's not like our current roster is built perfectly to play Golden State. Especially with their shooting inconsistencies. Rondo doesn't need to be a great shooter if he has great shooters around him. Plop Love, Frye, JR and (depending on which small forward is shooting well at the time) around him, he has a clear lane to the basket or an easy pass to whichever shooter is open. Dude has great vision in finding the open shot. He's just on a team with some of the worst shooters in the history of shooting (outside of when they play us). And the locker room cancer thing.

 

[Walter White]

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By the way, I'm trolling just a little bit on Rondo. I don't really want him and don't think we will get him. I just had to for argument's sake explain why we might consider him. I still think if LeBron feels like he could straighten him out and find him a role on this team that he could make it work.

Worst case scenario, we give him a couple weeks and cut him if it doesn't pan out. But I don't think we will even bother. But like I said, I think only a team like us or Spurs could even have a chance at straightening him out. Because both teams have strong leadership (LeBron and Pop). Spurs stand an even better chance because Rondo needs discipline that even we don't have. But Spurs probably wouldn't waste their time or risk it. I think Rondo only has one more chance in this league before he is done for good.

 

[Ohio]

As I mentioned above...my want isn't exclusive to just Rondo.

I want a guy who can run the bench and not force those extra minutes on LeBron in the regular season.

I also want that guy without giving up draft capital or player rights (save those for a wing).

So who is the best player who will be potentially available for a vet minimum contract right now who can do just that? Chalmers coming off an Achilles tear? Jack coming off an ACL tear? Both of those guys might not be able to play at all, we don't know. Norris Cole who is MIA?

Rondo is, potentially, the best option right now...only reason I am arguing for him. If another one comes along, I'll probably argue for them as well.

We want the same thing; and I agree Rondo is the best player available right now.

But, obviously, there's more to Rondo than just the skillset.

 

[godfather]

To be fair to Delly, I think the injury he sustained against Detroit affected him in The Finals. He wasn't close to the same player as he was the prior calendar year. I'll never believe Mo and Dahntay were deployed in those crucial games over a healthy Delly.

Delly fit incredibly well and had tremendous chemistry with LeBron and Tristan, among others. I understood the decision not to match Delly (and still do) but it's certainly having an impact right now.

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Delly was awesome in that Detroit series. I think he fitted find against GS overall, too.

I get everyone's point though. The guy we get, won't have a significant role against GS.

Which is why I'm against using any actual trading assets for that guy. But if a serviceable point guard is able in a buyout, I'm all in, given we definitely need more depth and to cut the playing time of LeBron and Kyrie.

I'd 100% love having Rondo if he wasn't 100% nuts.

 

[Lyuokdea]

I'd definitely prefer Deron Williams, if he was available. He isn't going to get bought out though, so we'd have to fit him in the TPE.

But since we're not going to spend $40M (with repeater tax) on Williams, we'd have to get rid of somebody (Dunleavy, or Shumpert) in another trade to make it worth it.

If we can find a way to dump Williams and Birdman, then something where Dunleavy + Shumpert leave, and Sefalosha, Korver, Williams come in, is basically cap neutral.

 

[jlegg21]

We want the same thing; and I agree Rondo is the best player available right now.

But, obviously, there's more to Rondo than just the skillset.

The skillset is gone too. Guy cant play anymore, in addition to being a known jackass.

Just about any other option is more appealing, and there will be better options opening up in a few weeks leading into trade deadline season, like always.

 

[Rich]

I'd love to see Millsap end up in Houston, I think he'd be a great fit...but now that I look at it I'm just not sure how Houston pulls it off unless they can simultaneously find a taker for Anderson. There's no point in paying Anderson 20 million a year while bringing in Millsap. No team is gonna pay that much for a back-up.

So, with that said, Oklahoma City, come on down!

Or....can you imagine, San Antonio? ALthough Aldridge has made it known he doesn't want to play Center, so probably not.

So, again, let's go Oklahoma City!

 

[Walter White]

The main reason I bring it up is because Korver would thrive next to LeBron big time, and I'm not sure how good JR will be when he comes back. JR started out rough after missing training camp and now he will be that much farther behind. And with the inconsistency of Liggins and Shump, I think we could use another 2 guard.

With JR going down, I think Korver would be more useful than most would think.

I don't know which guy has higher value and will take more to get, but I'd take the lesser guy. Korver could just serve as the replacement to what Dunleavy is supposed to be. He'd be quite useful off the bench here.

Korver is just an all-around better version of Dunleavy. He's still shooting 40% from 3PT this season, is an average defender, and is lethal off pick and rolls.

And I would bet on Dunleavy being traded. We really need a role player in his place. And he is in that perfect salary range of acquirable players that could help us yet possibly be moved cheap. I don't think we are going to let that 5-7 mil rot on the bench. I think we could do a swap for a player that needs a change of scenery or a team looking to save a little cash and get some value before they inevitably lose said player in free agency.

My guess is they'd want a late first rounder for Korver.

(I mean, Rich was skeptical they would give him up so easy, but overall this is impressive foretelling).

Griff, why you be reading the forums bro?

 

[Rich]

(I mean, Rich was skeptical they would give him up so easy, but overall this is impressive foretelling).

Griff, why you be reading the forums bro?

I was?

I was skeptical they'd give up both Korver and Thabo for a hot pile of trash. Which is why I said I was hoping for one or the other.

We still haven't seen full details of a deal here, either.

 

[godfather]

For the record, I was right on. I said it'd take a late first round pick to get Korver.