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Ok dude. The fact of the matter remains that none of the bigs drafted around TT are exactly setting the world on fire. I don't think anybody else is reading anything other than that into these numbers.

Then why was there mention of Andy and JJ's past, and other guys from completely different drafts? And why no mention of Faried? Or Ibaka if we're just gonna pull random names from different drafts?
 
does this guy shit in every thread?

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smoke its because tristan is getting alot of unnecessary group. it was showing that his production for a sophomore is not as bad as everyone makes it out to seem.
you seem to like to take everything to extremes.

first of the majority of tristans minutes is with the starting lineup. this is proven. you can look it up and disprove it if you choose to. you want thats why you start exaggerating everything trying to present people you disagree with as being unreasonable.

2nd of all its a bulletin post. hence the word snapshot. perhaps you dont know what the word snapshot means. the Pd just posted the stats and your freaked out not whatever they actually said but what you believed the stats indicated. in other words your mad about your own interpretation.

real production may have no meaning to you. a guy playing starter minutes as opposed to garbage minutes may not matter to you. but some people like to see those kind of things.

as far as per 36. those are projectd numbers not actual production. often times players come nowhere to mathicn their per 48/36 numbers if they get the actual minutes.it gives you an idea of what they might be able to do.

third of all neither the per 36 nor the actual stats really show anyone blowing away tistan. which is ultimately what your looking for and theres no stats that represent what you want them to.

If you want a complete stat comparison. ill be happy to give ya one. but no matter how many stats i show or combine or diferent viewpoints reviwed. if it doesnt match with your concluson youll call it worthless.

Also everyone ut you seems to know that Scott is trying to develop Zeller and play him at the end of games. that leaves him with playing either AV or Thompson. Im not sure which draft pick from last year you think would be playing over AV in that scenario.

Smoke show us the stats that get the result you want for Thompson. ill be happy to refute it with the same enthusiasm you use to attempt to refute its implications.


my statting Thomspon plays starter minutes does not = Thompson only plays starter minutes. you know this and the fact that not all his minutes are against the pposing teams starters does not change or make the statement inaccurate as you try to imply. its just downright childish


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does this guy shit in every thread?

Yep. God forbid someone questions Tristan Thompson. Deuce patrol. At least he's not injury prone, right Fuggs?

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smoke its because tristan is getting alot of unnecessary group. it was showing that his production for a sophomore is not as bad as everyone makes it out to seem.
you seem to like to take everything to extremes.

Nope, just trying show he's still bad in the same manner(stats) as you do. When in Rome...


first of the majority of tristans minutes is with the starting lineup. this is proven. you can look it up and disprove it if you choose to. you want thats why you start exaggerating everything trying to present people you disagree with as being unreasonable.


I did look it up and provided a breakdown of numbers in a previous post. We've had a ton of lineups. As of 12/9 TT had played a larger percentage of his minutes with the starting unit(s) than any other starter. You may have your own reasons, but mine is that it's because TT doesn't bring enough offensively to contribute to a team with a bunch of piss poor bench players.


2nd of all its a bulletin post. hence the word snapshot. perhaps you dont know what the word snapshot means. the Pd just posted the stats and your freaked out not whatever they actually said but what you believed the stats indicated. in other words your mad about your own interpretation.

Ok Freud, if that's what gets you through. No matter what my perception is on a message board, the over stroking of TT has never gotten me freaked out in any sense of the word. But, there's not much to interpret with those stats, other than they don't mean much at all, yet are trying to cast TT in a positive light.

real production may have no meaning to you. a guy playing starter minutes as opposed to garbage minutes may not matter to you. but some people like to see those kind of things.

It means something.

as far as per 36. those are projectd numbers not actual production. often times players come nowhere to mathicn their per 48/36 numbers if they get the actual minutes.it gives you an idea of what they might be able to do.

I've seen you use them.

third of all neither the per 36 nor the actual stats really show anyone blowing away tistan. which is ultimately what your looking for and theres no stats that represent what you want them to.

Faried is. But, then again, why show the stats of a guy from the same draft who was drafted much later, right? Or, without blowing TT away, the majority of the guys drafted below him are putting up better projected numbers almost across the board. Shocking.

If you want a complete stat comparison. ill be happy to give ya one. but no matter how many stats i show or combine or diferent viewpoints reviwed. if it doesnt match with your concluson youll call it worthless.

That's not true, and I've actually thanked some of your posts. But, you haven't exactly done cartwheels for mine either. Boo fn hoo. Point is, most of your stat comps are done to glorify the wunderkid TT. Mine are not. Deal with it.


Also everyone ut you seems to know that Scott is trying to develop Zeller and play him at the end of games. that leaves him with playing either AV or Thompson. Im not sure which draft pick from last year you think would be playing over AV in that scenario.

Huh? If it's all about development then don't ya think TT would be in there too, and not AV? And if it's a showcase for AV, then why has TT lost his developmental minutes to TZ? You always hear it's not about who starts, but who finishes. They are both being developed, but when it comes late 4thQ when the game matters, TT rides pine because he's worthless on offense, can't shoot FT's, and isn't impressive enough on D to negate said awful offense.

Smoke show us the stats that get the result you want for Thompson. ill be happy to refute it with the same enthusiasm you use to attempt to refute its implications.

We've been through that here already. But, when you try and tell me about Omri's rebounding numbers after 35 mins of playing time, I'm gonna call BS(and notice he ain't second no more). Funny how you never seem to track TT's one and only league leading stat, though...most blocks against. And all that coming from a guy with a USG below 15%. I mean, that is truely a phenomenal feat right there. I may not take a lot of shots, but when I do...I get stuffed like a pig on a spit. Stay thirsty my friends

my statting Thomspon plays starter minutes does not = Thompson only plays starter minutes. you know this and the fact that not all his minutes are against the pposing teams starters does not change or make the statement inaccurate as you try to imply. its just downright childish

Thanks for correcting part of your blanket statement.

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does this guy shit in every thread?

Yup, then accuses other posters of exaggeration, going to extremes, being dramatic, and exalting themselves as an expert... all while exaggerating, going to extremes, being dramatic, and exalting himself as an expert. Irony at it's finest with every post.

That said, he's right to be concerned about the PF position. Thompson is bad right now, and I'm not sure where people see this massive improvement from clumsy, lost and offensively deficient to serviceable PF on a title contender is going to come from.

Lastly, the reason he sits late in close games is pretty simple. He's one of the worst FT shooters in the league and there's no need to guard him outside the paint whatsoever, which kills Kyrie's ability to get to the rim. This team DESPERATELY needs a big who can shoot/score in the post. It's glaring.
 
Tristan Thompson faces an impatient Cleveland Cavaliers fan base


CLEVELAND—The Cavaliers play downtown, but they practise in the edge city of Independence in an ill-named facility called Cleveland Clinic Courts.

They built it for LeBron James, in order to shorten his drive in from Akron by 10 minutes.

Today, all the organization’s survivors have to schlep out there every morning so that Dan Gilbert didn’t pay $25 million for nothing.

At the entrance to the football-field sized practice courts, there’s a memory wall. In a nice, Stalinesque touch, it includes only two pictures of James.

Lots of Brad Daugherty. A family album’s worth. Two pictures of the best player in club (and perhaps league) history.

The team may be working to erase the recent past, but the fan base here can’t forget the man until they’ve moved past him.

Winning NBA franchises generally fade out. After James left, the Cavaliers cut to black.

That’s left a charged atmosphere behind, and precious little patience for rebuilding (the Browns and Indians not helping much in that regard).

Exhibit A — Brampton’s Tristan Thompson.

Cleveland knew what they were getting when they took the lengthy University of Texas freshman fourth in the 2011 draft — an energetic defender, an athletic rebounder, a willing student and an offensive work in progress.

Less than a year after his arrival, the city’s already looking very deliberately at its watch.

Some in the media have already launched that most backhanded U.S. compliment — “Canadian” — in questioning Thompson’s lack of brutishness in the paint. Others haven’t been able to resist a side-by-side comparison with the player picked after him, Toronto’s Jonas Valanciunas.

“They are?” Thompson says when asked about the talk, bemused. “To be honest, I don’t read anything in the media.”

Then he launches unprompted into an appreciation of the nuances of Valanciunas’ game that suggests he’s been paying pretty close attention. He ends with this: “He’s a 7-footer. When you’re seven feet, you’ve got nothing to worry about offensively.”

Thompson is 6-foot-9. There’s a touch of wistfulness in his voice as he says it.

So you’re saying if I was seven feet tall . . . ?

It’s a playful question, but Thompson pretends seriousness. He looks me up and down, nodding approvingly.

“As long as you’d played hard and learned to rebound, you’d have been in the NBA.”

This is a hard kid not to love. In this one instance, a liar, but one that leads with his heart.

Thompson’s latest project is his shot, an ungainly, multi-platform delivery that rises up like a backhoe clawing at masonry.

The Cavs have been trying to both polish and quicken Thompson’s delivery. In the early going this season, he is amongst the league’s most blocked shot-takers. The Cavs brought veteran Zydrunas Ilgauskas (pictures on memory wall: 2) to help him sharpen his mechanics.

This is more than fine-tuning. It’s re-education.

“Balance. That was my thing,” Thompson says. “I was using more arms than legs. I’ve gotta get underneath my shot, jump — not just set and use all arms.”

At the end of practice, Thompson spends long minutes trying a variety of free-throw approaches. First, ramrod straight. Then, with a slight dip in the knees. Finally, a deep bend. They get worse as they go along. The ball cannons back repeatedly off the front of the rim. You can hear Thompson thinking a great distance away.

“You have to start from the ground up — feet, legs, arms, flick your wrist, don’t put your palm on the ball,” he says. “After that, you’ve gotta be confident.”

Easy to say. Even at this level, hard to do.

One basket over, rookie Tyler Zeller (a true 7-footer) is metronomically sinking free throws while carrying on an animated conversation with a teammate.

After breaking his cheekbone in early November, Zeller has begun eating into Thompson’s minutes since returning. Thompson has started every game this year, usually alongside veteran centre Anderson Varejao, but at 21 years old, he can already feel the next generation’s breath on his shoulder.

Alongside defending rookie of the year Kyrie Irving and the No. 4 pick from this last draft, guard Dion Waiters, Thompson remains the future of this organization (if Zeller wants to be a starter, he’ll have to steal the job from that rebounding black hole, Varejao).

The question, of course, is when that future arrives. Showing unusual feel for the history of the game, Thompson plays league sociologist.

“The NBA’s changed. In the late ’90s and early 2000s, there was a stretch where guys were starting to come out when they were a little more seasoned. Now we’re younger. Guys from Europe are coming out as soon as they’re eligible,” he says. “You gotta be patient. It’s not ’03, when you had LeBron, Melo. Guys are going to take longer to develop . . . You might not have a bunch of hall of famers, guys like LeBron James . . . but we’ve got solid NBA players, guys who are going to play hard.”

There’s that name again. Twice.

Even when he’s been scrubbed from the official history, James still hangs over this club like a lingering smell.

Though perhaps he should be, Thompson doesn’t sound daunted. That’s what separates the pros from everyone else. He remains driven by the quality that first drew the Cavs to him — work ethic. His mom drove a bus. Though his son is now a multi-millionaire, his dad still drives a truck for a living.

“Some guys are glad to be here. Some guys want to be the best.”

And you?

A small smile.

“I wanna give guys a hard time.”

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baske...ces-an-impatient-cleveland-cavaliers-fan-base
 
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TT v. JV. IT'S GOIN DOWN.
 
TT it setting better screens, so I am happier tonight.


there you go TT, slam that shit @2:15
 
You can't even glance in TT's direction to run an offensive play. It's 4 on 5 every single play. TT is hot maggoty garbage and I'll give him one more year to prove otherwise. Either step up as an elite defender or be a little good at both.
 
Tristan is shooting 50% from the field in the month of December so far (10 games)... Hopefully he can keep it up, definitely shown some improvements on offense, but we'll see...
 
10 pts-9 reb vs. 8 pts-7 reb!!! WE WON!!!

We have the better mediocre big man! Its like winning the the first undercard fight when the main event is scheduled four fights later.

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Tristan is shooting 50% from the field in the month of December so far (10 games)... Hopefully he can keep it up, definitely shown some improvements on offense, but we'll see...

TT has been looking better lately. His post game has been slowly improving especially in the face-up aspect of it. He has actually been dribbling and maneuvering around the post, and it's been working. I hope he continues this.
 

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