Any female(white, black, Asian or purple) that fights like that and stomps on an unconscious human's head and beats that person's head with an object, is an animal in my book. Males for that matter too.
Again, I've been in far worse fights, and I've not only stomped but punched, elbowed and even eye gouged a man before (you wouldn't believe what happens when you put your fingers into someone's eyes). Did I have good reason? Most of the time, yes I did. In the aforementioned case, I question whether or not I showed too much restraint - I often wonder if I should have killed the man.
Was I a violent person? Yes, obviously.
Was I an "animal" undeserving of being treated and regarded as an equal human being with my peers? No.
What's the point here? It is that taking a 3 minute snapshot out of someone's life and then looking down your nose at them, judging them under the harshest of scrutiny, only demonstrates intolerance and ignorance. I'm not making excuses for these people in the video - I'm simply saying that I object to them being called animals while discussing the merits of "Black culture."
I also find it somewhat comical that these particular anecdotes are the samples of Black society offered for discussion. Resentful, much?
Again, a girl who was in the fetal position and not moving was getting her head stomped and hit with an object - animal.
I could have sworn that the same girl was throwing blows just moments prior to deciding to cower on the ground.
To that end, I think your high horse is a bit too high. If I'm fighting and someone cowers, if they've struck me repeatedly, I'm going to make sure a lesson is learned and they don't get back up and start again. But maybe you've never been in a fight? I've been in more than I can count.
And you know, thinking back to movies like The Warriors, and The Wanderers, when these kids got into fights with knives and bats, I don't think anyone thought "Animals!" At least, not the viewer. You can understand that they've grown up impoverished, lacking education, and opportunity. But make their skin a bit darker, and now it's a whole new ball game?
We also know there was at least a dozen bystanders laughing and filming. That's insane behavior in my book. One more kick or a hit to the temple with that object and someone's life could've been over. When I see a fight I pull people apart as fast as I can and recruit people to help me...but that's me.
I don't think your course of action would have helped in this circumstance.
You really don't think this is more popular in black culture than any other culture in the states? I think it is. I think many black people would agree with me....I honestly think you do too.
I think violence is prevalent among the poor. If you want Blacks to stop being violent, work to foster their advancement rather than their continued oppression. But to that end, another group would just take their place.
I would never teach my daughter that. I tell my kids if someone is bullying you, tell me. I've told my son if someone gets physical, by all means fight back.
And if he didn't? If he let himself be bullied? My mother would tell me almost every day "I'm not going to always be here. I might die tomorrow. Look at what happened to Grandma. You have to be strong, you have to learn to take care of yourself, and you have to learn to be a man. If you have to fight, then fight, and don't ever let anyone best you." My mother served in the Army before I was born, and is a very strong woman who basically raised me by herself. So what you might not teach to your daughter, I would, because they were words of wisdom.
But, my kids have never been bullied or been in a single physical altercation.
Then you've never been in the situation that I have when you're children come home crying.
If he were to ever bully someone he'd be grounded for a year. I've never even heard of a fist fight in my kids school that I can think of.
Then you're kids must go to a very nice school, or you're not very aware of what's going on. I went to Cleveland Heights public schools, and there were fist fights almost every day K-12.
I just asked my son if he's seen one. He said only a couple over the years that lasted under a minute...mostly pushing and wrestling on the ground with a punch or two being thrown before it was broken up.
That sounds like most of the fights I saw too, and that most kids see.
I doubt anyone would say it's more unique, but you have to admit it is far more prevalent with blacks than any other race.
No I don't. I would admit that it's far more common with the poor, underprivileged, and minorities than anyone else.
They had to overcome slavery, lynching, water hoses, horrible discrimination, being poor, etc. They also see rappers glorifying violence, drug dealing and degrading of women. As a result, I think that has fueled the violence.
Rappers are one thing, redlining and outright institutional racism are another. Work to fix the big problems and the little ones will follow.
I brought up the flash mob thing earlier. It is becoming an epidemic and increasing at a geometric rate. There was a "beat whitey night" at the Iowa State Fair...also at the Wisconsin State Fair. Kids in Pennsylvania have something called the "Knockout Game" where the goal is to knockout innocent unsuspecting white people. There's hundreds of mob attacks like this every year. These aren't fights. These are unprovoked brutal racist attacks. It's a serious problem that's getting worse. I haven't seen any white mobs doing an "Attack Blackey Night". But, when I do, i'm sure it will be on every single news channel...for weeks.
Let me tell you about a few White mobs.
Let's start with the White mob that colonized Algeria and Northern Africa while my father lived in a cave during the Algerian revolution because my grandfather had dared to fight against them. They brutally tortured and killed my grandfather, regardless of any standards of decency, who was fighting for the freedom of the Arab people.
Or the White mob that beat and shackled my uncle while serving in the US Navy, imprisoning him in a cage sized for a dog for several days. All because he protested when called "N***** boy."
Or the White mob that hosed down several of my close relatives in the Alabama during the Civil Rights movement.
Or the White mob that shattered a coke bottle across my face, immediately introducing that 3rd grader (who had never fought before) to American racism. The White mob that introduced me to the word "N*****." The White mob of teachers that stood outside the bathroom while I was being beaten and blinded, fighting, kicking and screaming only to emerge, look up at these authority figures and hear them say among themselves "
He must be on drugs." The White principal that, when asked by my mother "Why are you not punishing these kids for calling my son a N*****?!" said "Well isn't that what he is?" The White mobs of older kids, parents, and teachers who looked at me, one of only two African-American students (I am
very lightskinned btw), and said "What is this monkey doing here?" (St Gregory Elementary School in South Euclid, btw)
The only person who helped me and who would even raise a finger to protect me was a White Priest. He taught me what it really meant to be a true Christian. And it was him that kept me from falling into a pit of racial resentment, because this man was one of the bravest and most honest and caring people I have ever known in my life - and he helped me - and he was White.
I can go on, and on, and on.... Long story short: you can't judge a book by it's cover.
This guy sees that it's a problem.
You have no idea who Walter Williams is, Max. I do. He is a well known Uncle Tom who advocates against anti-discrimination laws, and laws protecting a minimum wage. Why on Earth are you quoting him?!
Nicky sees it's a problem. I think many blacks see that it's a growing problem. I do too...but i'll probably be labeled a racist because i'm white.
If you are attributing the actions that posters are describing in this thread to an entire race of people, then yes, you are a racist.
I'm not calling you a racist, I'm simply defining the term for you. Does the shoe fit or don't it? And frankly, that goes for Nicky, or anybody else. Has nothing to do with what race the person is who is making the argument.
This is the same reason, most in the media won't talk about it. As a country, why can't we talk about it and work towards a solution? It's a problem.
Because we can't agree on what the problem is. You have a problem with Black culture, but don't understand that Black culture is a product of White oppression. If you work to stop discrimination, foster equality, and create active programs that empower minorities in an effort to counteract societal racism, then you'd be working towards a real solution. Instead, you go out and vote for the same racist bastards that challenge my vote.
It totally boggles my mind that black leaders aren't doing everything in their power to address it.
Who are the White leaders by the way?
Black People don't have 'leaders.' That includes Barack Obama. We aren't in the days of Martin and Malcolm, things have changed. Blacks have, for the most part, assimilated. There are no Black leaders, and the very mentioning of "Black leaders" demonstrates a complete ignorance of Black people.
They only seem to get worked up when it's a white on black crime.
..... c'mon.
If it's black on white crime it's "frowned upon"(Jesse quote after the baseball player was shot in the back). If it's black on black they don't seem to even care at all. That's really sad.
What's sad is you and the rest of the Fox News viewership is Jesse's primary audience. No one in the Black community is listening to Jesse Jackson these days. C'mon...
Would They Be Proud?
By Walter E. Williams
Please....
