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Seriously, who's saying that the plan revolves completely around Kosuke?! Didn't read that at all in that article... In fact, pretty sure the guy said Kosuke would provide a stable, flexible vet presence; be consistent with the glove; will hit anywhere in the lineup; and a professional hitting approach.

How is that saying that our plan revolves around him?!

I assume he'd be starting, considering your ponying up at least a couple million to sign him, and since Brantley and Choo are locked in...

Thus, Fukudome is replacing Sizemore.

Which is....a horrible idea.
 
If prince fielder wants 20 million and we dont pick up carmona or sizemore thats 16 million, then that leaves only 4 more million a year for him, i say go for it.
 
Pick up Carmona's option.

Re-sign Fukudome.

Work a much cheaper deal with Sizemore or let him walk.

Sign a veteran arm (Mark Buehrle would be my first choice if possible) to stick in that rotation, or trade for one.

Get a decent power bat for the middle of the lineup. I'm not sure what the list of free agents is for this particular role, rep for anyone who can provide me with at least a short list.



I like our rotation going into next season. Masterson is a stud, Tomlin is solid, and Jimenez is starting to come around. Fausto is good for the back of the rotation and is a guy that can at least give you 5-6 innings, which is fine as long as he does it on a consistent basis (which I honestly think he's too good not to). Our bullpen, for the most part, is also pretty good. We've got some good young relievers and a decent/above average closer. My concern about him is that he seems to lack mental toughness, which is a must when you're going out there trying to seal the deal in a tight game. I dunno, he gets the job done for the most part but at this point he's probably a top 10-15 closer in this league, which is not bad by any means but certainly not elite either.

The offense needs to get figured out, as well. I'm confident (and I'm sure the Indians are too) that they're actually looking good when it comes to young, solid bats in the lineup. Kipnis is good, Chisenhall can be good, Hafner was good when healthy, Cabrera was good (at least for the first half of the season, but even then he slid back into his typical numbers which isn't as bad as it seems), and I think Santana is going to come around and hit for a much higher average next season. Also, let's not forget what a healthy Choo and a healthy Sizemore (assuming he's here) can do with a bat. Fukudome is also a guy who can get on base with regularity and proved to be a very nice pick up in the end (believe me, I was very disappointed and skeptical when they first traded for him, as were many here). They're just another solid bat or two away from being able to contend for a division title, imo, and seeing as the division is probably going to be much better next year, that's a good thing. I could easily see it being a 4-horse race down to the final month of the regular season next year.

That's assuming, of course, that the Indians are able to stay healthy. It's no secret that injuries absolutely sabotaged their hopes of contending for the playoffs. It killed momentum and forced guys to try to step up and play better that simply weren't good enough to do so. It's a tall order considering there are 162 games in the regular season, but if there's any team in the majors that needs to spend some extra time with the training staff (and probably the hitting coaches, too :chuckles:) it's these guys.


Oh, and I hope Cord Phelps never puts on an Indians uniform again. :)
 
I assume he'd be starting, considering your ponying up at least a couple million to sign him, and since Brantley and Choo are locked in...

Thus, Fukudome is replacing Sizemore.

Which is....a horrible idea.


Not disagreeing, but care to elaborate?
 
I think b00bie is in the Grady's Ladies Club......he's got a huge boner for him. And he doesn't like Asians.
 
If prince fielder wants 20 million and we dont pick up carmona or sizemore thats 16 million, then that leaves only 4 more million a year for him, i say go for it.

Haha, keep hoping my man.
 
If prince fielder wants 20 million and we dont pick up carmona or sizemore thats 16 million, then that leaves only 4 more million a year for him, i say go for it.


Not that I would hate it if we got him, but if that meant declining Carmona's option I wouldn't do it. He's overweight and I just have this terrible feeling that as soon as he gets that next big payday he's going to suck.
 
Not disagreeing, but care to elaborate?

A non-healthy Sizemore has a higher OPS than a healthy Fukudome.

If you're going to replace Sizemore, you'd better do it with someone better than Kosuke Fukudome.

Clearly Grady's injuries have left a sour taste with some fans...but unless they have any reason to believe his injuries will carry over until next season...there is no reason not to pick up the option.

But it's perfectly reasonable they don't if he's not healthy....at which point they need to find a better replacement than a 35 year old with an OBP of .300 and an OPS less than the unhealthy guy you're replacing.
 
P-L-E-A-S-E stop with the Prince Fielder talk.

Maybe if Gilbert were the Tribe owner.
































































Just wanted to piss b00bie off. :chuckles:
 
I understand what you're saying but your logic is wrong. We simply aren't replacing Sizemore with Fukudome. Period. One is a center fielder, and the other is a platoon outfielder. Declining his option doesn't mean he's being replaced by Fukudome. Get that out of your head.

At the end of the day, I'd love for Sizemore and Hafner to regain what they had and overcome these nagging injuries. But then again, I'd love it more if the Indians sluggers from the 90's came back and reunited.........but that's not gonna happen.
 
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If prince fielder wants 20 million and we dont pick up carmona or sizemore thats 16 million, then that leaves only 4 more million a year for him, i say go for it.

did you forget who owns the Indians?
 
A non-healthy Sizemore has a higher OPS than a healthy Fukudome.

If you're going to replace Sizemore, you'd better do it with someone better than Kosuke Fukudome.

Clearly Grady's injuries have left a sour taste with some fans...but unless they have any reason to believe his injuries will carry over until next season...there is no reason not to pick up the option.

But it's perfectly reasonable they don't if he's not healthy....at which point they need to find a better replacement than a 35 year old with an OBP of .300 and an OPS less than the unhealthy guy you're replacing.


Agreed with not replacing him with an aging Fukudome. And this is coming from someone who really likes him, too. I hope the Indians bring him back at least as a utility outfielder, but that's getting off topic. As for picking up Grady's option, I would much rather they try and rework a deal with him for less money, if at all possible. If not then I'm on the fence about picking up a $9 million option, if only for the reason that Grady has had these nagging injuries for a number of years now but at the same time we also know what he's capable of when healthy. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for him to regain even half of what he used to be, and be able to play in 130-145 games next year and if he could then it would be a major boost to this ball club. Maybe Manny Acta could give him a day off every week or so to keep him fresh and put Zeke in there instead. What would you do in that situation?
 
I understand what you're saying but your logic is wrong. We simply aren't replacing Sizemore with Fukudome. Period. One is a center fielder, and the other is a platoon outfielder. Declining his option doesn't mean he's being replaced by Fukudome. Get that out of your head.

At the end of the day, I'd love for Sizemore and Hafner to regain what they had and overcome these nagging injuries. But then again, I'd love it more if the Indians sluggers from the 90's came back and reunited.........but that's not gonna happen.

Then what is Fukudome coming back here to be? A 2-3 million dollar bench player?

Declining his option and bringing Fukudome back is absolutely replacing him. You're not going to get both, and they'll both command enough money to warrant a starters role on a small market team such as this.

You think they're going to pony up for Fukudome AND another amount of money for a starting outfielder?

For that...you may as well roll the dice with Sizemore...
 
No Fielder? Well I prefer Pujols anyway...
 

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