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Kyrie
Sullinger
Williams
T. Jones (interchangble with P. Jones)
P.Jones (interchangable with T. Jones)

If Irving and Sully don't come out the I guess Kanter and Valanciunas.

God that would be a terrible draft, if it were to play out that way I think I would take Perry if Williams wasn't avalable.
 
If the Cavs guy isn't on the board when they draft, would you consider dropping down in this draft to get higher picks next year? This would be assuming that Eli's Eyes was picking right around the 3 spot or so...
 
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Sullinger is fools gold. He's dominating in the NCAA because he's big for a college player...he bullies people with his size. He's big, but he's not that tall and he's very slow and plodding - not a quick, athletic player at all. His size won't be an advantage in the NBA and he'll be too small to play PF or Center, but too slow to play SF. i see him as a Big Baby type player. he won't be an all star level player in the NBA....he will be a decent bench player. he's not the type of player you want to waste a top 5 pick on.
 
I can't agree with you on this Rist. No one is better on defense than Perry Mason.

I disagree with you 1B4IGO, Ben Matlock is a better defender.

Sullinger is fools gold. He's dominating in the NCAA because he's big for a college player...he bullies people with his size. He's big, but he's not that tall and he's very slow and plodding - not a quick, athletic player at all. His size won't be an advantage in the NBA and he'll be too small to play PF or Center, but too slow to play SF. i see him as a Big Baby type player. he won't be an all star level player in the NBA....he will be a decent bench player. he's not the type of player you want to waste a top 5 pick on.

Because there's no way he could grow at all... :rolleyes:
 
1. Kyrie Irving
2a. Perry Jones
2b. Terrence Jones
3a. Jared Sullinger
3b. Enes Kanter

Honorable Mention: Brandon Knight. He's been playing much better. He's showing leader qualities at the lead guard spot.
 
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1. kyrie ivring
2. terrence jones
3. kanter
4. sullinger
5. perry jones
 
1) Enes Katner- The only reason I have him 1st is the Cavs lack any legit bigs and this guy has the potential to be special. Good bigs are hard to come by nowadays.

2) Kyrie Irving- This guy quickly jumps to first if the Cavs can dump a combo of Mo, Boobie, or Sessions. The Cavs have a plethora of solid guards you can get by with but no stars.

3)Derrick Williams- Love this kid as a 3, can shoot,post up and is a hard worker.

4) Terrence Jones- If the Cavs can't get one of the top two this is the guy I like. Could be special could be just pretty good. Either way I like him more then anyone else available here.

5) J. Valanciunas- Solid big but don't know enough about his work effort or demeanor to say how good he will actually be.

Personally I believe if the Cavs draft below the top 3 they are thru and we can watch another season of what we see now. The Cavs have little success at drafting good players in recent history and the draft is considered to be pretty weak this year and gets alot weaker if Irving doesn't declare.

On a side note-I want nothing...absolutely nothing to do with Sullinger. I believe he is dominating in college because he is far more physically gifted strength-wise then the people he is playing against. That won't happen in the pro's!!! I believe his ceiling is Paul Milsap and for a pick this early in the draft that is just not good enough.
Love him at OSU don't want him as a Cav!
 
Sullinger is fools gold. He's dominating in the NCAA because he's big for a college player...he bullies people with his size. He's big, but he's not that tall and he's very slow and plodding - not a quick, athletic player at all. His size won't be an advantage in the NBA and he'll be too small to play PF or Center, but too slow to play SF. i see him as a Big Baby type player. he won't be an all star level player in the NBA....he will be a decent bench player. he's not the type of player you want to waste a top 5 pick on.

Al Horford was very similar in size and ability, as was Elton Brand (look at his first 6 years stats) before he destroyed his knees. If you know angles and how to rebound and use your body effectively, you can succeed being a few inches shy of 7 feet.

I am amazed how many of us want Irving, I thought it would be less to be honest.

Anyway, my Top 5:
1. Irving
2. Kanter
3. Derrick Williams
4. Sullinger
5. Perry Jones (Still need to watch him more, I've barely seen him but from what I read he has a bright future)


Round 2 Targets:
Kenneth Faried - F - (Rebounding animal from Morehead St., will probably go late first though)
Jeremy Tyler - F - Playing in Japan (from HS to Europe ala B. Jennings. BIG dude but still raw and young)
Shelvin Mack - G - Butler
Chris Singleton - F - Florida St. (Moving up draft boards now, probably won't be around in 2nd)
 
Why do I get the feeling almost everyone has Perry Jones and Terrence Jones tied in their lists because they share a last name.
 
1. Kyrie Irving
2. Enes Kanter
3. Derrick Williams
4. Jared Sullinger
5. Terrence Jones
 
1. Kyrie Irving and it isn't even close

I like the next 2 guys but I'm not excited about them being #2 and #3 on the board. After Irving I don't like how the top 6-7 players look thus far.
2. Terrence Jones
3. Derrick Williams

4 and 5 are solid picks but not superstars
4. Sullinger
5. Kanter

Perry Jones may have all the talent in the world but I just see bust written all over him. Harrison Barnes should stay another year, I have some hope for him still if he sticks in Chapel Hill for another season. Kemba Walker is a volume scorer and undersized point guard, 2 qualities I generally don't like. Jonas Valanciunas seems slow but bigger than everyone else he plays against so he looks good. Put him vs. athletic big men who actually attempt to block a shot and lets see how he does.

C'mon ping pong balls and c'mon Kryie Irving!
 
1. Kyrie Irving- clear cut #1 pick
2. Jared Sullinger- Jared's getting the same criticisms as Kevin Love in terms of athletic ability and Love has held his own. JS body transformation from last year to this year is very impressive for an already highly touted player, def the safe pick which what the Cavs need ala Joe Haden before last year's draft with the Browns. I'm not expecting the Cavs to sniff the playoffs next year why risk another year on a boom or bust player.

3a. Perry Jones
3b. Enes Katner
3c. Terrence Jones
 
1. Kyrie Irving - Kind of hard to argue against this kid. (Though I'm slightly hesitant on the injury, just slightly)
2a. Terrence Jones -He's always been a winner and is playing pretty great, sometimes that's more important than freak athleticism (which he's not completely devoid of)
2b. Jared Sullinger - He might be small, but this guy is a proven winner, and is dominating, sometimes people are just good, I think him and Terrence fall into that category.
2c. Enes Kanter- Dude tore apart Sullinger not too long ago, will have to see how other things go. Just makes you wonder how good he would have been in NCAA. I think there is a decent chance he'd be consensus number 1 if Sullinger is this high.

Then I put these guys about the same... but could jump up the board if they start playing like some think they should. (Some guys take longer to advance than others)
Perry Jones- I want to like him, and the potential, but his attitude holds me back, and so does his success in high school. I can't think of one person getting as hyped as him that wasn't a monster in high school.
Harrison Barnes - As far as I'm concerned PJones and him are in the same place, except Barnes has been more successful and looks like he can lead a team, also been playing better lately, only time will tell.

Saying all this, I'm not totally sure who will be the best player out of all these guys in the NBA? I think what team they end up on, and whether they get a kick in the butt to perform to their best level will determine their futures.
 
What happened to Harrison Ford? He use to be listed in here on everyone's list. Did he not get away from Tommy Lee Jones?
 

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