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CENTERING ON KWAME

By MARC BERMAN
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KNICK PICK: Knicks president Isiah Thomas would like to sign Kwame Brown (right) as the club's next center, but the Wizards might make it tough to get the restricted free agent.
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July 2, 2005 -- Isiah Thomas has a new mantra: youth and size. Those watchwords will lead the Knicks in pursuit of 6-11 Kwame Brown, who became a restricted free agent yesterday.
On Thomas' wish list of free-agent centers, Brown, who spent the first four seasons of his NBA career with the Wizards after going from high school to the No. 1 pick in the 2001 draft, has the most upside but also is the least accomplished. The Knicks would need a sign-and-trade with the Wizards. Thomas reached out with a preliminary phone call to Washington GM Ernie Grunfeld, the former Knick boss.

A source in the Wizards' front office said Grunfeld fielded a half-dozen calls from teams interested in a sign-and-trade for Brown, who had an injury-wracked 2004-05 campaign, missing the first 37 games. The Wizards will field offers before deciding whether to re-sign Brown, who averaged 7.0 points and 4.9 rebounds last season, but was suspended during the playoffs for missing two workouts.

The Knicks have some trade assets, including two first-round picks next year. Grunfeld would have entertained an offer centering around Kurt Thomas, but he's now in Phoenix. Power forward Michael Sweetney played at Georgetown and used to dominate the MCI Center, but although a box-office attraction, he might be too undersized for Washington's liking. Sweetney would be expendable if the Knicks can sign Antoine Walker or Stromile Swift with the $5.1 million mid-level exception.

Former Georgetown forward Jerome Williams might be more to Grunfeld's taste and has the bigger salary to make a deal for Brown work snugly.

The Post reported Thomas' interest in Brown as a prospective free agent back on March 8. That night, Brown went 0-for-8 from the field at the Garden. After the game, Brown said New York could be a consideration, though he's from the much-smaller Charleston, S.C.

"D.C.'s a big city, so every option is open, but now I'm focusing on getting better," Brown said.



The underachieving former No. 1 pick has been knocked for his work ethic, but Thomas has the ego to think he can turn Brown's career around.

Meanwhile, the Cavaliers are making re-signing 7-3 center Zydrunas Ilgauskas a top priority. However, his agent Herb Rudoy said yesterday, "He's very interested in going to a different team, quite candidly."

Ilgauskas, 30, does not fit into Thomas' youth movement, but is the best center available. The Bulls, meanwhile, plan to lowball Eddy Curry because of his heart condition.

David Lee, the Knicks' pick at No. 30 in the first round Tuesday, signed his rookie contract and attended his first summer-league practice yesterday. Channing Frye and Nate Robinson missed the first three days of practice, but are expected to sign today.



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Pistons coach Larry Brown is out of the Mayo Clinic after a three-day stay and has holed up in his Hamptons summer home with no decision on his future expected until Monday at the earliest.

Brown's Long Island-based attorney, Joe Glass, spoke with Pistons president Joe Dumars yesterday and told him Brown will not need surgery but is waiting on tests. Brown won't coach next season with the same bladder condition. Glass said there's a "99.44" chance he will coach the Pistons if he coaches anywhere, but the Knicks are still waiting it out.



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I don't like the quote from Z's agent near the end of that story where he says "he's very interested in going to a different team."

Z won't get paid better than he will in Cleveland. The Cavs also aren't going to help him get his money through a sign and trade. I hope he's fine with getting paid the MLE. This is from a NY paper but it's still a direct quote from Rudoy, Z's agent.
 
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How are the Knicks gonna sign him? Arent the well above the cap already? They arent going to get him for the MLE
 
why would he have dinner as a cleveland cavalier with their new draft pick from lithuania if he wanted to go elsewhere - who knows when his agent said that - it could have been before the cavs hired ferry.
 
I think the NY press is twisting some words around. Either that, or Z's agent is bluffing for a bigger contract. Z's agent knows Cleveland has the money to give Z what he wants. Just another money hungry snake agent. They are all the same.
 
people please catch on here. dont believe anything new york or l.a. has to say. nothing. they are jokes and are trying to get attention.

if you new anything about the cavs and the knicks you would know that their would be no way in a blue moon that the knicks would land z.

im the biggest critict here about the rumors surronding z, but everyone on this board should completely ignore these kind of rumors. critict or not.
 
The thing is it's not a rumor. This is a quote coming directly from Rudoy, Z's agent.
I do agree it's the agent just engaging in negotiating tactics. He has to wake up to the fact that his choices are 1) sign for big money with a bad team--none of which have interest in him, 2) sign for the MLE or 3) resign with the Cavs where he'll remain with a team on the rise and still get paid very well. I would think choice 3 is the best for Z and the agent.
 
If Zydrunas knows what's right for him, he'll stay in Cleveland. Other teams (eg-Atlanta) can offer Z tons of money, but what they can't offer is a winning team. Only Cleveland can do it.
 
Gilbert had said earlier that he would not be opposed to doing a sign and trade with Z if they could not come to an agreement. But there is no way we do one with NY as they have nobody even remotely worth Z. Also Z said he wanted to play only three more years so is he going to take more $$$$ from teams like the Hawks and Bobcats to wallow in or near the cellar for the last three years of his stay in the league? I don't think so!
 
Troy Wingate said:
If Zydrunas knows what's right for him, he'll stay in Cleveland. Other teams (eg-Atlanta) can offer Z tons of money, but what they can't offer is a winning team. Only Cleveland can do it.

Not to sound mean or anti-Cavs,but I'm sure there are some better teams that can offer around the same as Cleveland.

Though, I doubt he'd leave Cleveland. After Boozer screwing us :mad: , I don't even want to think about Z leaving Cleveland. :(
 
Thats agents being agents. Z's agent is pretty good at what he does and basically, hes saying all the right things. When Kobe was a free agent, he was courted by everyone, but basically everyone knows the Lakers was the only destination he was seriously considering. Not that Z is on the same level as Kobe or anything, but he really doesn't have a better fit. That being said, Z hasn't been treated that greatly by the Gilbert crew. Z had great loyalty to Gund because he stuck with him through his injury-plagued years, but Gilbert has yet to build anything with any players, and if anything has estranged Z, even planning to cut him (we all thought so too). With Ferry on board though, it looks like Z is a top priority again but I'm thinking with the amount of room thats cleared that Z will not take anything close to 3 years $30 mill. Think instead 5-6 years and something starting at 13-14 million with the 10% increases, that basically increasing more than 1 million each year.
 
the cavs will not pay Z over 10 million a year...sorry not going to happen. And 5-6 years, forget about that. four - tops!
 
WildThing said:
Not to sound mean or anti-Cavs,but I'm sure there are some better teams that can offer around the same as Cleveland.

Though, I doubt he'd leave Cleveland. After Boozer screwing us :mad: , I don't even want to think about Z leaving Cleveland. :(


Like who?
 
there is nobody better than us who has cap space to offer the max without renouncing their own free agents first.

Seattle has to renounce at least two of Reggie Evans, Vladamir Radmanovic, Jerome James, and Ray Allen
Chicago has to renounce Curry and Chandler

Even the Bucks have to renounce Redd to get enough cap space.

Other than that, it's pretty much Atlanta, Charlotte and the clippers.

Z has to take less money to leave, go to a lousy team, or work a sign and trade deal.
 
The agent wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't selling his product to the market. They do use low ball tactics, but that is how they operate. This quote comes from Rudoy, not Ilgauskas, so my concern is rather minimal.
 
I can't stand the NY media. The Post is a regional National Enquirer.

Can't wait to read what they write when LeBron's time comes. :chuckles:
 
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